Skip to comments.The Real Reason The Seattle Monorails Crashed
Posted on 11/28/2005 6:10:23 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
They installed Windows...
I take an interest in this because I used to be one of the 4 or 5 people who were daily commuters on the monorail. Now I live with a view straight down the line.
Who'd'a thunk it.
Photo reminds me of two ferries trying to fit into the same berth a few years ago.
ROFL!!!! Ah Liberal eco-friendly f'ed up travel for all!
Windows is perfect for it! Best view of 1065 technology at it's grandest. Oh, and then there is the monorail..... :)
Aw, it's not for you. It's more of a Shelbyville idea.
I think it is interesting that this whole problem only developed after they *re-built* the track in that spot, moving them closer together to somehow allow for the design of the Westlake center.
Yikes. Why design in an obvious problem like that?
I thought it was a photshopped joke. It really says that??
A Windows 2003 Cluster is rock solid by the way.
They've been running on those same fixed tracks for 43 years - how is a collision possible?
It was just too easy to take a cheap shot.
> They've been running on those same fixed tracks for 43
> years - how is a collision possible?
There was apparently an ill-considered re-alignment in the
1980s. The "pinch" that resulted relied on visual signals
to avoid collision. It would appear that the only thing
remarkable about this crash was that it took this long
before the first one happened.
Steve, back in the late eighties, they moved the tracks closer together in the turn to make way for development. There is a procedure in place that one train is supposed to wait for the other so that they are both not in the turn at the same time. It has worked for 15+ years. It cracks me up to listen to the media types explain exactly this procedure and then say that the "cause of the crash is still not known at this time", LOL!
Beat me by almost two minutes - you posted as I was formulating.......... ;o)
As far as I can tell, there's only like 1 rule the train operators have to follow: DON'T PULL INTO THE TURN WHEN THE OTHER TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION.
They usually slow down...and there's a warning light on the track. I imagine the driver pulling into Westlake was talking to someone on the train and missed the warning light. On these trains there's a passenger seat right next to the driver (on both ends of the train) and normally kids sit there and talk to the operator. He or she was probably talking to the kids when they went past the warning light.
It's too bad, most everyone involved in the Seattle Center Monorail is really very nice.
Ya... Cluster Server 2003 is a darn fine product, IMHO. Along with the rest of the Server 2003 line.
But that doesn't keep me from getting a little chuckle at Bill's expense from time to time. :-)
Most forms of public transportation suck, just like Windows.
Thousands. Standing room only on each trip. Believe it or not, the Monorail operates at a profit of around 2 million a year.
When there's a problem with the system, they charter a couple small buses and make the run from Westlake to Seattle Center for free.
Just give me a minute while I think up a catchy song!
Okay, let's try . . . "Morals and ethics and carnal forbearance-" wait, that won't work.
It cracks me up to listen to the media types explain exactly this procedure and then say that the "cause of the crash is still not known at this time", LOL!""
The real cuase of the crash is come developer finding a way to pay off some planning dude so that he could get his "realignment" to put in his development.
Common sense has been totally bred out of the last 2+ generations, IMO.
Thanks to you and others for clearing that up; I'd forgotten about the track mods when the Westlake Center was built. I have lunch in there a couple of days a week (Mediterreanean Avenue restaurant) and usually sit right near the doorway to the monorail. And as someone said, if they rely on visual cues not to have both trains in the curve at the same time, it's amazing it took so long for this to happen.
Well, it's obvious now that the taxpayers need to build a tunnel for it, or just raise the street level 32' again like they did in 1890. Added benefits would be effectively creating a second story to the Seattle Underground tour, and solving the Viaduct & Seawall crisis's.
Look, Windows is a great one-size-fits-all operating system for end-users. For people that like the useless fluff, don't mind the inexcusable delays, and tolerate the crashes, Windows fits the bill. It is a joke, however, as a mission-critical solution. Even Oracle - itself a joke - runs rings around anything Micro$oft can offer.
I'm sure someone will find a tax increase in this mess somewhere.
Just another exposed tip of Seattle's deely-ingrained corruption.