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The Real Reason The Seattle Monorails Crashed
Picture ^ | 11/28/2005 | Psycho_Bunny

Posted on 11/28/2005 6:10:23 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny

They installed Windows...



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1 posted on 11/28/2005 6:10:24 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Psycho_Bunny

LOL!


2 posted on 11/28/2005 6:15:08 PM PST by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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To: Psycho_Bunny
The damage is pretty bad......They're being towed back to Seattle Center tonight and tomorrow.

I take an interest in this because I used to be one of the 4 or 5 people who were daily commuters on the monorail.  Now I live with a view straight down the line.


3 posted on 11/28/2005 6:16:12 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Windows crashed again?

Who'd'a thunk it.

4 posted on 11/28/2005 6:18:27 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Photo reminds me of two ferries trying to fit into the same berth a few years ago.


5 posted on 11/28/2005 6:20:15 PM PST by steve86 (@)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

ROFL!!!! Ah Liberal eco-friendly f'ed up travel for all!

Windows is perfect for it! Best view of 1065 technology at it's grandest. Oh, and then there is the monorail..... :)


6 posted on 11/28/2005 6:24:38 PM PST by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: SIDENET
I usually walk on the other side of the street so I hadn't seen the Red Train until this morning when the two guys who work for me, and myself, went down to see it.  I'm an IT Director and the two others are the Network Admin and Web Designer so, you can well imagine we found no end of amusement when we saw who'd bought the side of the train.
7 posted on 11/28/2005 6:25:28 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Windows Cluster Server?

Aw, it's not for you. It's more of a Shelbyville idea.

9 posted on 11/28/2005 6:27:10 PM PST by impatient (Will the last member of civilization please turn out the lights?)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I think it is interesting that this whole problem only developed after they *re-built* the track in that spot, moving them closer together to somehow allow for the design of the Westlake center.

Yikes. Why design in an obvious problem like that?


10 posted on 11/28/2005 6:31:39 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

11 posted on 11/28/2005 6:34:02 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I thought it was a photshopped joke. It really says that??

A Windows 2003 Cluster is rock solid by the way.


12 posted on 11/28/2005 6:36:02 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

They've been running on those same fixed tracks for 43 years - how is a collision possible?


13 posted on 11/28/2005 6:39:12 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Lx
Ya...ironically, it's not a Photoshop.  And to be honest, I really like all of the 2003 server line.

It was just too easy to take a cheap shot.


14 posted on 11/28/2005 6:43:44 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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To: Steve_Seattle; Psycho_Bunny; Ramius

> They've been running on those same fixed tracks for 43
> years - how is a collision possible?

There was apparently an ill-considered re-alignment in the
1980s. The "pinch" that resulted relied on visual signals
to avoid collision. It would appear that the only thing
remarkable about this crash was that it took this long
before the first one happened.

See:
http://www.monorails.org/tMspages/News.html#Anchor-Driver-49575


15 posted on 11/28/2005 6:46:42 PM PST by Boundless
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To: Steve_Seattle

Steve, back in the late eighties, they moved the tracks closer together in the turn to make way for development. There is a procedure in place that one train is supposed to wait for the other so that they are both not in the turn at the same time. It has worked for 15+ years. It cracks me up to listen to the media types explain exactly this procedure and then say that the "cause of the crash is still not known at this time", LOL!


16 posted on 11/28/2005 6:48:26 PM PST by SW6906 (5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
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To: SW6906

Beat me by almost two minutes - you posted as I was formulating.......... ;o)


17 posted on 11/28/2005 6:49:31 PM PST by SW6906 (5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
They had to narrow the tracks at a turn when the Westlake Center Station was built.  So this accident has been possible since the mid-80s. 

As far as I can tell, there's only like 1 rule the train operators have to follow: DON'T PULL INTO THE TURN WHEN THE OTHER TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION. 

They usually slow down...and there's a warning light on the track.  I imagine the driver pulling into Westlake was talking to someone on the train and missed the warning light.  On these trains there's a passenger seat right next to the driver (on both ends of the train) and normally kids sit there and talk to the operator.  He or she was probably talking to the kids when they went past the warning light.

It's too bad, most everyone involved in the Seattle Center Monorail is really very nice.

18 posted on 11/28/2005 6:49:36 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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To: Lx

Ya... Cluster Server 2003 is a darn fine product, IMHO. Along with the rest of the Server 2003 line.

But that doesn't keep me from getting a little chuckle at Bill's expense from time to time. :-)


19 posted on 11/28/2005 6:51:06 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Most forms of public transportation suck, just like Windows.


20 posted on 11/28/2005 6:53:52 PM PST by lmr (Thanks to tet68, this tagline has been updated)
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To: Baynative
How may people do you see using the rail on a busy day? What ever will they do now?

Thousands.  Standing room only on each trip.  Believe it or not, the Monorail operates at a profit of around 2 million a year.

When there's a problem with the system, they charter a couple small buses and make the run from Westlake to Seattle Center for free.

21 posted on 11/28/2005 6:55:02 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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To: impatient

Just give me a minute while I think up a catchy song!

Okay, let's try . . . "Morals and ethics and carnal forbearance-" wait, that won't work.


22 posted on 11/28/2005 6:55:16 PM PST by Xenalyte ("Every day should be the best day ever!" -Frank DellaPenna, Cast in Bronze)
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To: Boundless
Here are a couple photos of the old Westlake station.



23 posted on 11/28/2005 7:03:47 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: SIDENET

BUMP


24 posted on 11/28/2005 7:05:25 PM PST by tom paine 2
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To: SW6906

It cracks me up to listen to the media types explain exactly this procedure and then say that the "cause of the crash is still not known at this time", LOL!""

The real cuase of the crash is come developer finding a way to pay off some planning dude so that he could get his "realignment" to put in his development.

Common sense has been totally bred out of the last 2+ generations, IMO.


25 posted on 11/28/2005 7:08:34 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Boundless

Thanks to you and others for clearing that up; I'd forgotten about the track mods when the Westlake Center was built. I have lunch in there a couple of days a week (Mediterreanean Avenue restaurant) and usually sit right near the doorway to the monorail. And as someone said, if they rely on visual cues not to have both trains in the curve at the same time, it's amazing it took so long for this to happen.


26 posted on 11/28/2005 7:10:36 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

Well, it's obvious now that the taxpayers need to build a tunnel for it, or just raise the street level 32' again like they did in 1890. Added benefits would be effectively creating a second story to the Seattle Underground tour, and solving the Viaduct & Seawall crisis's.


27 posted on 11/28/2005 8:06:48 PM PST by 4woodenboats
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To: Lx
Real computers - HP Tandem, IBM 390 - will run rings around Windows. Windows/Microsoft is full of hot air - arrogance, bloat, show-offism (for lack of a better term - meritriciousness if you prefer). They simply cannot be all things to all men. I'm sorry, but those old, no-nonsense servers still rule the roost in banking, finance, healthcare, and any other mission critical application.

Look, Windows is a great one-size-fits-all operating system for end-users. For people that like the useless fluff, don't mind the inexcusable delays, and tolerate the crashes, Windows fits the bill. It is a joke, however, as a mission-critical solution. Even Oracle - itself a joke - runs rings around anything Micro$oft can offer.

28 posted on 11/28/2005 10:36:40 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Baynative
This sucks...I like to ride the monorail when I need some "alone time."

I'm sure someone will find a tax increase in this mess somewhere.

30 posted on 11/29/2005 6:30:56 AM PST by Horatio Gates
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To: ridesthemiles
The real cuase of the crash is come developer finding a way to pay off some planning dude so that he could get his "realignment" to put in his development.
Common sense has been totally bred out of the last 2+ generations, IMO.

Just another exposed tip of Seattle's deely-ingrained corruption.

31 posted on 11/29/2005 8:10:03 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azad)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

cluster-lol


32 posted on 11/29/2005 8:11:17 AM PST by bigsigh
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