Iran president had ‘religious vision’ during UN speech

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[nuconvert]

Iran president had ‘religious vision’ during UN speech

By Gareth Smyth and Najmeh Bozorgmehr in Tehran

Published: November 28 2005

A leading website in Iran has published a transcript and video recording of President Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad claiming to have felt “a light” while addressing world leaders at the United Nations in New York in September. Baztab.com – a website linked to Mohsen Rezaei, former commander of the Revolutionary Guards – said the recording was made in a meeting between the president and Ayatollah Abdollah Javadi-Amoli, one of Iran’s leading Shia Muslim clerics.

According to the transcript, Mr Ahmadi-Nejad said someone present at the UN, possibly from his entourage, subsequently told him: “When you began with the words ‘In the name of God’… I saw a light coming, surrounding you and protecting you to the end [of the speech].” Mr Ahmadi-Nejad said he sensed a similar presence.

“I felt it myself, too, that suddenly the atmosphere changed and for 27-28 minutes the leaders could not blink,” the transcript continues. “I am not exaggerating…because I was looking. All the leaders were puzzled, as if a hand held them and made them sit. They had their eyes and ears open for the message from the Islamic Republic.”

Baztab.com quoted little of Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli’s reaction to Mr Ahmadi-Nejad’s claims, other than his call for officials “to carry out promises and refuse to fool people”.

Some clerics are already uneasy at Mr Ahmadi-Nejad’s religious beliefs, especially his emphasis on the “missing imam” – the Shia leader who entered occultation in 941 and whom Shia believe will return to rule before Judgment Day.

Mr Ahmadi-Nejad referred to the imam during his UN speech and his cabinet has allocated $17m for renovating Jamkaran mosque near the holy city of Qom, which pilgrims believe the imam visits on Tuesdays.

After watching the video on Baztab.com, Akbar Alami, a parliamentary deputy, told the semi-official news agency ILNA he hoped that it was not being distributed by people “close to the president” to make criticism of him “taboo among ordinary people”.

The Farda.com website, which is close to Ahmad Tavakoli, a leading fundamentalist deputy, took the opposite view. Noting the availability of DVDs of the meeting, it warned that Mr Ahmadi-Nejad’s opponents were behind distribution as “a pretext to insult him”.

Mr Alami highlighted the acute sensitivity of the issue by referring to Ali Mohammad Shirazi, a 19th-century Iranian scholar executed by firing squad after first claiming to be the “bab” (gate) to the missing imam and then to be the imam himself.

“The president should not be affected by fake inducement, machinations and praise by people around him,” he said. “From time to time, he might be told some nonsense as in New York.”

[nuconvert]

"...for 27-28 minutes the leaders could not blink,” the transcript continues. ... All the leaders were puzzled, as if a hand held them and made them sit. They had their eyes and ears open for the message from the Islamic Republic.”"

LoL. First of all, the auditorium was 2/3 empty. They showed clips of his speech on tv. And secondly, if people were unable to blink, it was because they were stunned and couldn't believe what was coming out of mouth! Like talking about the 12th Imam. I'm sure they were puzzled alright!

[r9etb]

APresident Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad claiming to have felt “a light” while addressing world leaders at the United Nations in New York in September.

I guess it's too much to hope that it was the dot from a laser sight....

[the anti-liberal]

What are they pumping through the airducts at the UN these days!?

[drlevy88]

have the Christian Charismatics formed a joint venture with the Mullahs?

[lafroste]

Having a prophetic and religious zealot in charge of a large country is the definition of trouble. Note how they are setting up for mass hysteria with the 12th Imam. This is how things like Nazi Germany happen. Not good, not good at all.

[Pittsburg Phil]

The only religious experience this mutt can have comes from Hell.

[Cicero]

Try not blinking for half an hour. It would fry your eyeballs.

[USNBandit]

[Dr._Joseph_Warren]

Mr Ahmadi-Nejad referred to the imam during his UN speech and his cabinet has allocated $17m for renovating Jamkaran mosque near the holy city of Qom, which pilgrims believe the imam visits on Tuesdays.

Unless they are showing a good Seinfeld rerun that night, in which case he visits on Wednesday.

[livius]

which pilgrims believe the imam visits on Tuesdays.

If they know where he is on Tuesdays, how is he missing?

[EGPWS]

Iran president had ‘religious vision’ during UN speech

Give Iran the freedom of nukes and he would be grateful for his freedom for his "religious vision" that we would all could be touched by.

[Sacajaweau]

That was my first thought, too. A little red light about the size of a dime!!

[reagan_fanatic]

“I felt it myself, too, that suddenly the atmosphere changed and for 27-28 minutes the leaders could not blink,” the transcript continues. “I am not exaggerating…because I was looking. All the leaders were puzzled, as if a hand held them and made them sit. They had their eyes and ears open for the message from the Islamic Republic.”

That satan sure is a sneaky SOB.

[sure_fine]

"President Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad claiming to have felt “a light” while addressing world leaders at the United Nations in New York in September"

we used invisible lazer to plant a microscopic transponder, so a guidance system can find him later

[nuconvert]

"Having a prophetic and religious zealot in charge of a large country is the definition of trouble"

No kidding!

"Note how they are setting up for mass hysteria with the 12th Imam."

Interesting. Not sure how affective it would be with the majority of people, though. But if the regime is feeling desperate, it might be worth a try for them.

[woofie]

[Fitzcarraldo]

Competition to be the AntiChrist is starting to get fierce.

[nuconvert]

They also think he's down a well and people leave notes for him there. I guess Tuesday is his nite out of the well.

[nuconvert]

LoL

[DoughtyOne]

Get the net, get the net...

[sam_paine]

Like talking about the 12th Imam. I'm sure they were puzzled alright!

Holy Toledo! Has Texas A&M turned muslim?

[nuconvert]

LoL.
Unfortunately, there are 10's of millions of people in Iran probably thinking the same thing. And they LIVE there.

[DoughtyOne]

Boy this guy seems to be playing the 'messenger from God' card to the hilt.

[nuconvert]

Yes he is. Nothing like a "messenger from God" surrounded by a gov't full of military officers.

[DoughtyOne]

To paraphrase...

Yes he is. Nothing like a "messenger from god" (shoud have used the lower case) surrounded by a gov't full of military officers "not from God".

[nuconvert]

Re #24
If one doesn't convince the people, the other will

[martin_fierro]

Hey, Mahmoud:

I got your Vision right here.

[Mannaggia l'America]

“I felt it myself, too, that suddenly the atmosphere changed and for 27-28 minutes the leaders could not blink,”

[DoughtyOne]

I should say so.

[nuconvert]

Lol.

[denydenydeny]

Is Ahmadnejad thinking about claiming to be the Twelfth Imam?

That would make things interesting.

[HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath]

If he doesn't become a Christian soon, you know it was just the spirit of anti-christ.

[oldenuff2no]

A tactical nuclear weapon inserted anally should show him the light.

[nuconvert]

Well, there have been rumors. But so far, he's supposedly only been in contact with the 12th Imam. But anything's possible.

[F15Eagle]

Iran president had ‘religious vision’ during UN speech ... "...I saw a light coming..."

My guess is the REAL God showed him what he was going to see outside his window soon after he makes a nuclear weapon and points it towards Israel.



(btw, where is that "Mars Attacks" images with the red kaffiyehs a la the Saudis - not related to this thread but does anybody have a link? thanks)

[Mannaggia l'America]

“I felt it myself, too, that suddenly the atmosphere changed and for 27-28 minutes the leaders could not blink,”

OK, I had my fun...

[VOA]

Hey, maybe the secret is to stop wearing neckties.
More blood flow to the cranium.

Seriously, I'd always wondered why this dude doesn't wear a necktie...
and a week or so ago, the Wall Street Journal had an article
about how neckties are banned in Iran.
Apparently some Islamics think the necktie reminds them of the crucifix.

[WestVirginiaRebel]

I thought they might have been rendered senseless by the guy's body odor...

[nuconvert]

The regime banned ties as being symbols of western culture.

[Auntie Dem]

The only religious experience this mutt can have comes from Hell.

How true...Satan has the ability to appear as an Angel of Light. (To deceive the weak and wicked) To someone who lives daily in the Religion of Darkness, the light from from a small flashlight appears as very bright. But compared to the sun, well.....

[Semper Paratus]

Sort of like Martin Sheehan as the loony President in Steven Kings Dead Zone who launches a full nuclear strike and shouts Hallelujah the missiles are flying the missiles are flying.

[nuconvert]

Want to dress like Ahmadinejad?

http://www.iranpressnews.com/english/source/008669.html

[BenLurkin]

More "crazy eyes":

[Moorings]

Did he feel the same "light" when he talked about the anihilation of the entire nation of Israel?

[VOA]

The regime banned ties as being symbols of western culture.

True, as I gather that there is nothing in any scripture forbidding
a fashion accessory like the necktie.

[Mannaggia l'America]

More "crazy eyes":

Those eyes can look at me any time... :-)

[rdcorso]

The people in the room were frozen in place from the foul fumes being spewed from this guys mouth.Their eyes were bulging and popping out of their heads from trying to hold their breath for so long.They couldn't believe that one man could fill an entire room with a rancid odor from his toxic soul.

[MaDeuce]

"Iran president had ‘religious vision’ during UN speech"

Maybe the guy ripped a "wet one" in his Grampers and thought "Holly 'S', I can't believe I just did that!!!"

[Lloyd227]

"What are they pumping through the airducts at the UN these days!?"

Evidently not a high enough concentration to finish the job. :-)

[Gritty]

Some clerics are already uneasy at Mr Ahmadi-Nejad’s religious beliefs, especially his emphasis on the “missing imam” – the Shia leader who entered occultation in 941

Terrific.

Another nutty country with nuclear bombs - or they very soon will have.