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Biden Admits to Seeing Same Pre War Intel That Administration Did.
MSNBC Meet the Press ^ | November 27, 2005 | Tim Russert, Sen. Joseph Biden

Posted on 11/28/2005 6:51:26 PM PST by ArmyBratproud

On this past Sunday morning's interview with Tim Russert on Meet The Press, Democrat Senator Joe Biden stumbled and bumbled an admission towards the end of the interview.

When Russert forced the question about Senators seeing the section of the National Intel Estimate that listed a caviat from the State Department questioning some of the intel, Biden got trapped. As hard as he tried to avoid it, he ended up giving an answer that shows that he and other Dems saw the same pre war intel as Bush.

And he admitted that it was before the vote on the war. Thus showing he and the other Dems are not sincere in their calls and are playing politics with the war.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; biden; bushlied; california; cia; diannefeinstein; iraqwarfacts; prewarintelligence; waterboarding
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To: Txsleuth

Chalk up success to us, the President and his Admin, and the House.

Dems' lost that charge because we all went on the attack with a boatload of evidence in visual and written document to disprove their lies.

next line of offense needs to highlight our impending victory, as well successes. We can win this battle too, it just will take longer than a few weeks to penetrate to the public.

IMO, they had better be planning a HUGE exploitation of the Dec. 15th elections and meaning behind them in context of winning the war.


61 posted on 11/28/2005 8:12:08 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: hole_n_one

bttt


62 posted on 11/28/2005 8:12:41 PM PST by nopardons
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To: YaYa123

bttt


63 posted on 11/28/2005 8:13:10 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Danae

you got it.


64 posted on 11/28/2005 8:15:22 PM PST by satchmodog9 ( Seventy million spent on the lefts Christmas present and all they got was a Scooter)
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To: ArmyBratproud
MR. RUSSERT: This was made available to senators before the vote. Only six read it.

SEN. BIDEN: No, no, no, no, no, no. That's true, that was before the vote.

If the republicans don't make HUGE, HUGE, HUGE noise about this then they deserve the poll numbers they get. The Dems need to be shown for the liars they are, and if the republicans don't have the cahones to do it then they become complicit to the lies.

65 posted on 11/28/2005 8:18:30 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: fabriclady

I really LIKE Wallace. He has a lot of guts.


66 posted on 11/28/2005 8:29:41 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Cowards cut and run...Marines never do!)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Gunny has it.


67 posted on 11/28/2005 8:33:47 PM PST by GunnyBob
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Wallace surprised me. I would have guessed he was a hard core liberal.
Now he is proving to be fair. Lets just hope he stays this way.
I like him.


68 posted on 11/28/2005 8:42:57 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: nopardons

bttt


69 posted on 11/28/2005 8:47:19 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
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To: hole_n_one

I don't have the Mitchell-Russert exchange, but this is just as good.

The Mitchell-Imus exchange went like this:


MITCHELL: I know the question now. I've gone back and reread it. And I frankly - I thought - I think that I thought he was asking about, did I know there was an envoy. But I know that I didn't know about Joe Wilson's wife until after the [Novak] column. Because when the column came out I went in to my producer and said - "Look at this. How the heck did we not know that?"


And at the same time we were talking with [Tim] Russert and everyone else. You know - this is a different part of the story that we didn't know about.


So clearly back in Oct. of '03, I screwed it up.


IMUS: Well, [Alan Murray's] question seems plain. "Do we have any idea how widely known it was in Washington that Joe Wilson's wife worked at the CIA. And you said that his wife worked . . .


MITCHELL: When you look at my answer, I said: "It was widely known - and we were trying to track down who among the foreign community was the envoy to Niger." So far, so good. Okay? [Quoting herself again.] "So some of us began to pick up on that. But frankly I wasn't aware of her actual role at the CIA and the fact the she had a covert role involving weapons of mass destruction, not until Bob Novak wrote it.


IMUS: Well, that part is clear.


MITCHELL: That's clear. So, what's not clear is that I didn't know about her role at the CIA until Bob Novak wrote it. And I obviously got it muddled.


IMUS: Well, what this suggests to me is that, you knew she worked at the CIA but you didn't know what she did there.


MITCHELL: Yes, but that's not . . .


IMUS: Is that fair? Did you know that?


MITCHELL: I didn't.


IMUS: Well, then - why did you say you did, Andrea?


MITCHELL: Because, I messed up.


IMUS: Oh.


MITCHELL: I think that I was confused about the timeline. We weren't all as focused on the timeline then as we really are now. And I think I just was confused.


IMUS: Did you ever have a discussion with Russert about it?


MITCHELL: Sure, after the fact.


IMUS: Oh.


MITCHELL: Well, I think Russert, conversations with Russert, obviously after Joe Wilson came out on "Meet the Press" - and we all talked about those 16 words. That's what we were focused on. We were focused on Niger, uranium, were there WMD? That's what the whole focus was. Not on his wife.


Then Joe Wilson's wife was mentioned by Bob Novak and it became a major issue when the CIA referred it to the Justice Department for investigation. . . . . [SNIP]


IMUS: I think the reason that there's a question about you, and I'm not patronizing you, but it's because the respect you have as a journalist and as a reporter.


MITCHELL: I appreciate that but I've got to tell you . . .


IMUS: I mean, [reporters are] very careful about what they say and when they say it.


MITCHELL: I have gone back over this, I can't tell you how many times. I was quite surprised to hear about it because it's inconsistent with anything in my memory. I can't find any notes that reflect this - this alleged knowledge. And so I was muddled on the timeline - that's all I can imagine.


IMUS: Have you been subpoenaed?


MITCHELL: No, no - not at all.


IMUS: Have you ever - have you talked to Fitzgerald informally?


MITCHELL: No - in no way. I was - I didn't have any knowledge about this. You know, one of the things that happened was that the Washington Post wrote an inaccurate story in the middle of this whole period, saying that I was one of the six people who had been leaked to before the Novak column. And that's how my name first got into this.


Which was not true. They didn't check with me. They didn't call me. I was in the office all day. It was a Sunday. They wrote the story on Monday morning.


70 posted on 11/28/2005 8:47:31 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: ArmyBratproud

Timmy actually pressed a Rat. I'm impressed -- but I still won't watch him ever since his kissy face with Hitlery a few years back.


71 posted on 11/28/2005 9:15:32 PM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Danae

Doll hair???????

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A reference to Biden's hair plugs.


72 posted on 11/28/2005 9:18:38 PM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: DoughtyOne

When the left decided to back Clinton rather than demand he resign, it set the tone for what would follow.

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So true!


73 posted on 11/28/2005 9:20:06 PM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: YaYa123; DoughtyOne

Agreed. The systematic, strategic and institutionalized lying of the Democrats is the true legacy of Bill Clinton.


74 posted on 11/28/2005 9:21:53 PM PST by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead; Bigg Red

Thanks. Are you two acting as a team? LOL


75 posted on 11/28/2005 9:24:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: ArmyBratproud
So how did Karl Rove and Dick Cheney fool him into voting for the war, even after seeing the "real" intelligence estimates?

</sarcasm>

76 posted on 11/28/2005 9:25:09 PM PST by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: Txsleuth

If they have given up the "Bush Lied" meme it is because the White House came out swinging for all of about 10 days, the backlash against the Senate resolution of irresolution, and, most importatly, the 403-3 vote in the House, when they were called upon to put up or shut up. They ran away like a scalded dog. That's one fight they don't want to pick any more. They are gutless in their gutlessness.


77 posted on 11/28/2005 9:27:04 PM PST by Buckhead
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To: DoughtyOne; Bigg Red; YaYa123

Naw. Great Minds Think Alike!


78 posted on 11/28/2005 9:28:49 PM PST by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead

LOL, take it easy.


79 posted on 11/28/2005 9:29:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Why in heaven's name would anyone give a flying flip what Joe Biden saw or thinks???????

I can't understand the obsession people have with this man..........including the voters of Delaware.......

He is the epitome of the Democratic party - he's a jackass.

I lived in Delaware for 21 years and was involved in one way or another in politics for all those years.........I know he's a jackass.


80 posted on 11/28/2005 9:30:41 PM PST by Gabz
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