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Lesbian couple winds [sic] claim against Knights of Columbus
AP ^ | Nov 30, 2005

Posted on 11/30/2005 7:41:53 AM PST by george wythe

VANCOUVER, British Columbia Two lesbians are entitled to damages from the Knights of Columbus, which canceled their reservation of the group's hall for their wedding reception, a panel has ruled.

The Roman Catholic men's group was entitled to refuse to rent the hall on the basis of religious belief but caused undue hardship to the couple, Tracey Smith and Deborah Chymyshyn, the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal ruled Tuesday.

"The Knights could have taken steps such as meeting with the complainants to explain the situation, formally apologizing, immediately offering to reimburse the complainants for any expenses they had incurred and, perhaps, offering assistance in finding another solution," the tribunal said in a written decision. "There may have been other options they could have considered without infringing their core religious beliefs."

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TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dykes; homosexualagenda; lesbians

1 posted on 11/30/2005 7:41:54 AM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe

Why did the gays even plan their wedding reception at the Knights of Columbus hall when they know that the KOC are Catholic?

To be a bother. That's why. To get in everyone's faces and be a bother.


2 posted on 11/30/2005 7:44:41 AM PST by BostonianRightist ("Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ~ Senator Goldwater)
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Liberals told us many times that religious organizations were exempt from these gay-rights laws.

At least in Canada, it seems that the Knights of Columbus have the 'right to refuse' but must pay damages.

Btw, the Knights of Columbus were accommodating:

Smith and Chymyshyn made no secret of the fact that the rental was for their wedding reception, but it didn't occur to the person who showed them the hall that they were marrying each other, officials said.

George Macintosh, a lawyer for the Knights of Columbus, disputed the finding that the group failed to accommodate the couple reasonably.

"The complainants located another hall the next morning, so that was taken care of," Macintosh said. "The Knights, when they found out about the misunderstanding, apologized to the complainants for the misunderstanding and offered to refund the hall rental.


3 posted on 11/30/2005 7:45:43 AM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe
Chymyshyn said in a statement she and her partner didn't realize the hall was run by a religious group. They said they found it by driving around and following a sign for a bingo hall.

"We certainly didn't go looking for this problem," she said. "We would never have booked the hall if we had known who the Knights of Columbus are, because we wouldn't want any hassle on our special day."

Don't know who the K of C are? I guess they don't get out much.

4 posted on 11/30/2005 7:50:50 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: george wythe

What would the reaction be if the RNC wanted to rent out meeting space in a hall that had a lesbian meeting across the way?


5 posted on 11/30/2005 7:52:22 AM PST by saveliberty (Creator - A comedian whose audience is afraid to laugh. HL Mencken)
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To: The_Victor

I think she is misstating what really happened to put herself in a positive light.


6 posted on 11/30/2005 7:52:58 AM PST by saveliberty (Creator - A comedian whose audience is afraid to laugh. HL Mencken)
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To: george wythe
"There may have been other options they could have considered without infringing their core religious beliefs."

Hey, Yer Highness, couldn't the same be said of the lesbos? Couldn't they have found another hall? Maybe a bus station bathroom, or a four-stall outhouse at the local state park ... You know, someplace fit for the occasion.

7 posted on 11/30/2005 7:54:37 AM PST by IronJack
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To: saveliberty
What would the reaction be if the RNC wanted to rent out meeting space in a hall that had a lesbian meeting across the way?

That would be a 'provocation.'

At any rate, the conservative values of Christian organizations will continue to be attacked using these misguided souls.

IMHO, these liberal judges are just using the lesbian couple to punish Christians who refuse to accept the liberal dogmas.

8 posted on 11/30/2005 8:00:19 AM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe

If a Mosque however, canceled a reservation for a pig roast, that would be o.k.

Christians have to take back thier societies or face extinction as a faith.


9 posted on 11/30/2005 8:13:39 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: george wythe

You are right on the money


10 posted on 11/30/2005 8:15:42 AM PST by saveliberty (Creator - A comedian whose audience is afraid to laugh. HL Mencken)
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To: george wythe

I'm surprised the Knights of Columbus are allowed to operate in Canada. After all, Columbus was guilty of genocide against the First Nations. Knights are warriors who fight on horseback--warfare is so un-Canadian (at least since 1945), and no one should ride a horse without getting the horse's consent. Where's PETA?


11 posted on 11/30/2005 8:27:23 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

LOL!


12 posted on 11/30/2005 8:31:14 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: george wythe

This sounds like a set-up.More publicity for the msm/homosexual activists.I can see the headline,"Homosexuals Discriminated Against".What really s@cks is they will most likely win damages.


13 posted on 11/30/2005 8:32:50 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: george wythe

More posts here from a Canadian newspaper. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1531151/posts If you go to the Globa and Mail article, they also have a discussion forum and the gays are really in a tiff of anything supportive of the K of C. It was also posted there that the lesbians booked the hall sight unseen and that under Canadian law, if a venue cancels after a booking, they are legally required to pay for the costs for an alternate venue. The bishop even offered to provide, at CHurch expense, an alternative site, but the dykes refused. The lesbians are also appealing the ruling because it did not say they were discriminated against based on sexual orientation. This was a homosexual activist set up from the start.


14 posted on 11/30/2005 8:49:35 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Thombo2

They did win damages. The hall was aquitted of discrimination, but guilty of contract violation under Canadian law. The lesbians are appealing the ruling even though they won damages because the ruling was for, in their opinion, the wrong reason.


15 posted on 11/30/2005 8:51:50 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: IronJack

Who would want to stink up a perfectly good outhouse with such degeneracy?


16 posted on 11/30/2005 8:52:16 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: doc30

"They did win damages" Not only that,but they'll get lots of sympathetic ink/coverage from the msm.I can't speak for anyone else,but i'm really sick and tired of homosexuals crying discrimination.I think at some point activist activity by homosexuals is going to backfire.


17 posted on 11/30/2005 9:00:58 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: george wythe

""The Knights could have taken steps such as meeting with the complainants to explain the situation, formally apologizing, immediately offering to reimburse the complainants for any expenses they had incurred and, perhaps, offering assistance in finding another solution," the tribunal said in a written decision. "There may have been other options they could have considered without infringing their core religious beliefs."


Oh huh - and they could have called the two pervs "Sisters" and made like some queer laden Protestant sects, or the "Deformed 'Sin'agogue" on South Beach.

Anything to please the Human Rights chappies - musn't get their nappies in a knot, you know.


18 posted on 11/30/2005 10:18:31 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: george wythe

Knights of Columbus Forced to Pay Damages to Lesbians for Refusing to Rent Hall for “Wedding” Reception

By Terry Vanderheyden

VANCOUVER, November 30, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal has demanded that a Roman Catholic men’s fraternity, the Knights of Columbus, award a lesbian couple damages for refusing to rent them a hall for their same-sex “wedding.”

The Tribunal said the Knight’s, however, had the right, as a religious group, to refuse the facility to the women, but that the women should be compensated for the “undue hardship” that cancelling the event had on them.

“The Knights could have taken steps such as meeting with the complainants to explain the situation, formally apologizing, immediately offering to reimburse the complainants for any expenses they had incurred and, perhaps, offering assistance in finding another solution,” the tribunal’s written decision stated.

In 2003, Deborah Chymyshyn and Tracey Smith rented the hall in Port Coquitlam. When the Knights became aware that it was to be for a homosexual couple, they cancelled the booking. The Tribunal heard the case in January and the ruling was handed down yesterday.

The Knights, faithful to church teaching against homosexual marriage, cancelled the rental contract that had been signed, returned the couple’s deposit and paid for the rental of a new hall and the reprinting of wedding invitations. That still didn’t satisfy the two lesbians who went to the Human Rights Commission.

The Knight’s lawyer, George Macintosh, told the CP that it is untrue that the Knights did not try to accommodate the women. “The complainants located another hall the next morning, so that was taken care of,” he said. “The Knights, when they found out about the misunderstanding, apologized to the complainants for the misunderstanding and offered to refund the hall rental. The communication just broke down when the Knights asked for a release to be signed before refunding the hall rental and the cost of printing the invitations, and that led to the hearing.”

See the full BCHRT decision:
http://www.bchrt.bc.ca/decisions/2005/pdf/Smith_an...

See related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
Knights of Columbus Challenged by Canadian Lesbians for Refusing to Rent Hall for ‘Wedding’ Reception
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jan/05012607.html


19 posted on 12/01/2005 9:50:06 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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Decision
20 posted on 12/01/2005 9:56:28 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


21 posted on 12/01/2005 9:58:07 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: doc30
The hall was aquitted of discrimination, but guilty of contract violation under Canadian law.

The good news is that the hall was aquitted of discrimination.

22 posted on 12/02/2005 8:20:16 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: george wythe; Coleus

Liberals don't understand that the right to free assembly includes the right to exclude - the same way that the freedom of religion includes the right not to be a part of a religion


23 posted on 12/02/2005 10:06:26 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: fanfan

Canada ping!


24 posted on 12/02/2005 10:06:58 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: george wythe

Refuse to pay.


25 posted on 12/02/2005 10:22:17 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: george wythe

The Gaystapo government... Coming to a country near you.


26 posted on 12/03/2005 5:02:38 AM PST by fwdude
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