Kennedy Appointment is Outrageous

California Republican Assembly ^ | 11-30-2005 | Mike Spence, President of the California Republican Assembly

[Wolfstar]

Unfortunately we do have a group of "cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face" people, who claim to be conservatives, but as bottom line, they helped the Dems.

This is true.

I voted for all of his initiatives.

I don't blame Arnold for anything other than surrounding himself with too many Lib/Dems. I know he's doing the best he can under very difficult circumstances. However, making that radical his chief of staff is a deal breaker for me.

[FairOpinion]

"However, making that radical his chief of staff is a deal breaker for me."


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I had the same reaction, until I cooled off and started to consider the alternatives, at which point I am looking at it that Arnold may have dropped in the overall assessment scale, say from 85 to 60, but any Dem who would get elected has a value of some -500 and dropping, because in today's environment, they would claim they have a justification to raise taxes signifantly, probably even getting read of Prop. 13 protection and we would really rue the day, when they got in. And we narrowly dodged the bullet, I think Arnold actually vetoed that socialized medicine bill the Dems passed.

[Wolfstar]

I know Arnold appointed a Republican as finance director. Unlike most on FR, I fully understand the importance of building winning coalitions, so it doesn't bother me of a governor or president appoints a relatively moderate member of the opposite party to a comparatively limited post. Norm Mineta at Transportation in GWB's administration hasn't been too bad, for example, and he's been loyal to the President.

However, the woman Arnold appointed is his CHIEF OF STAFF, the top appointed position in his inner circle. She's a radical Leftist. Not only will she have considerable power, but Arnold has given a huge boost to her career.

I'm sorry, FairOpinion. You and I agree much of the time, and I respect you. But this is a line I can't cross with you.

[Wolfstar]

So aren't the majority who voted for the dysfunctional status quo, and thus all of us, the big losers?

Yes, they are and we all are big losers.

[Wolfstar]

In the next election, if he chooses to run, Arnold will face a primary challenge. Maybe more than one. I will vote for one of his challengers in the primary, and will decided what to do in the general election when I have to cross that bridge.

The real problem, as I see it, can't be fixed. We can't unring the recall bell. So we're stuck with what we have, and there's much more that will play out before the next election.

[FairOpinion]

"we're stuck with what we have, and there's much more that will play out before the next election."


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We certainly agree on this one.

[calcowgirl]

Assemblyman John Laird, D-Santa Cruz, chair of the Assembly Budget Committee, described Genest as a "a strong conservative with a pragmatic streak."

Well, shucks, FO. If your gay socialist buddy, assemblyman Laird, says it is so, then it must be!
Given your GLBT support, I suppose the appointment of Ms. Kennedy is considered another "win" to you.

[FairOpinion]

"Given your GLBT support, "

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It seems I have to be really blunt with you: PLEASE STOP LYING ABOUT ME.

[skeeter]

LOL - I suppose you think that the overwhelming support by the far right wing is what caused the loss ?

Mebbe thats your problem - how about Arnold arguing convincingly enough to win over a few in the 'mushy middle' of his party?

If you're dependimg on the 'far right' to win elections in CAlifornia, you'll be waiting awhile. There's only so many of us.

You 'country clubs' types need to find another scapegoat...

[goldstategop]

I don't mind California going the way of Argentina. In fact, I welcome the prospect. The only way things are going to change here is if they become so bad people won't put up with them any longer. We're not at the point yet where the need to change has persuaded people that it has to happen.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[calcowgirl]

I am not lying about you. You have clearly showed your support for the homosexual agenda on many occasions. You offered absolutely no criticism of Arnold passing several pro GLBT pieces of legislation, including Assembly Bill 1400, the Civil Rights Act of 2005. Instead, you referred to those bills as "mere crumbs" and tried to justify his actions because they were "less important" than the gay marriage legislation. Conservatism is losing because of this kind of incrementalism--your position of trying to minimize these acts is empowering the GLBTers.

[RS]

You crack me up - "how about Arnold arguing convincingly enough to win over a few in the 'mushy middle' of his party?
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Arnold has to argue with, and convince Republicans that they should vote for parental notification ?

But you're absolutely correct in your other statement - "If you're dependimg on the 'far right' to win elections in CAlifornia, you'll be waiting awhile."

Which is why any attempt to push a far right candidate is a waste of effort, and guarantees a Democrat win.

[FairOpinion]

YOU KEEP LYING ABOUT ME. STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You keep calling me a "supporter of the GLBT agenda", even though I asked you to stop making up lies about me, since nothing I have said justifies your lies.

I pointed out that Arnold vetoed the homosexual marriage bill, passed by the Dem legislature, which was the most important bill to veto.

Nobody in their right mind consideres the above statement as "expressing support" for the GLBT or whatever agenda.

You are just so desperate that you can't rebut my factual and logical arguments, that you are resorting to pathetic lies, which only reflect back at you. Anyone reading my posts can see very clearly where I stand on issues.

[verity]

I am still pissed at the price of CA naval oranges.

[verity]

I am still pissed at the price of CA naval oranges.

[calcowgirl]

Do not call me a liar because of what you posted. Your record stands on its own, FO. Actions which enable the leftists to advance their agenda is support. You stated that legislation giving more rights to homosexuals is "mere crumbs" (as you posted on multiple occasions), and excuse it because it is "less important" than the gay-marriage bill.

These aren't crumbs. Remember the list? AB 2600, the Unruh Civil Rights Act: marital status and sexual orientation; SB 973, Public employees' retirement: domestic partners; SB 565, Property tax reappraisal exclusion: domestic partners, etc.

[WalterSkinner]

..one could say we get the government in CA we deserve, but to Arnold's credit, he did try to reform things. CA doesn't want change--it just wants more!

[LexBaird]

Anyone reading my posts can see very clearly where I stand on issues.

We sure can. Wherever Arnold tells you to, regardless of the contortions it takes.

[Czar]

Suggest you read the article to be found here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1532693/posts

If that doesn't cure your "Arnold obsession" nothing will.

[RS]

"Actions which enable the leftists to advance their agenda is support."

Does that include NOT giving full support to someone attempting to pass conservative legislation because HE is looked on as not being worthy, and thereby giving a victory to the leftists in defating those props ?