Environmental Group sues National Parks Service to Ban Off Road Vehicles (My title)

Outer Banks Preservation Association ^ | 11/29/05 | staff

[Rebelbase]

The lawsuit: http://obpa.org/images/stories/Bluewater,NPCALawsuit.pdf

Speculation from access groups is that Friends of the Earth will seek an injuction against all off road vehicle use in National Parks.

That will be the beginning. National Forests and Seashores to follow.

[SteveMcKing]

BUT WHAT IF A WOMAN'S HEALTH IS IN DANGER??? THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR THAT!

[randog]

...as well as affecting the experiences of other visitors.

That's what it's really all about.

[clee1]

I suppose that you and the eco-nuts will pay for the costs of increased enforcement?

[Rebelbase]

Incrementalism.

Forests were meant to be accessed not locked up.

[JennysCool]

The National Forests belong to all of us. This suit, like others of its ilk, wants to limit forest visitors to only young, able-bodied, people with the free time to go on hiking trips. Disguised as an "environmental" issue, this is just a way to lock up our forests to everyone the elitists don't care for.

[george76]

RS 2477 Rights-of-way

SHOULD YOU BE CONCERNED ABOUT RS 2477 RIGHTS-OF-WAY?

ASK YOURSELF...

Do you enjoy hiking, camping, hunting, fishing, birding, off-road vehicle use, wildlife, mountain biking, backpacking, nature photography, horseback riding, rock hounding, climbing, or any other recreational use of the public lands?


IF YOUR ANSWER IS "YES,"

AND JUST WHAT ARE RS 2477 RIGHTS?

http://www.rs2477roads.com/

[rottndog]

National Parks should be accessed--you are right--but in a reasonable and sustainable way.


And just who is supposed to determine what is "reasonable and sustainable"?

It seems to me that this ought to be up to Congress to determine, not a bunch of econazis via tyrants wearing black robes. If the courts do intervene here, it would be a clear cut case of a violation of separation of powers.

Why don't you ecofascists go through the political process and pass laws for this in the congress, rather that having judges dictate your beliefs on the rest of us through the courts?

[george76]

Best Wishes.

The Blue Ribbon Coalition are good folks.

http://www.sharetrails.org/

[rottndog]

Go for it enviros! I'll sign on!

Do I still deserve to be called an Eco-fascist?


Considering the theme of this thread--envirowackos going to court to enforce their beliefs about the use of National Parks--and your cheering them on, I would have to say yes.

[Born to Conserve]

http://www.bcnorth.ca/atvdamage/photos/Sisters1.jpg

'Nuff said.

[JennysCool]

Parks, forests, seashores, whatever. The truth is there are already laws on the books against destruction of public property, vandalism, and other such offenses. The aim of most of these latter-day suits, infortunately, is simply to cut off access to everyone but hearty Birkenstockers.

[george76]

This Park was created and is now administered for the benefit and enjoyment of the people...it is the property of Uncle Sam and therefore of us all."

President Theodore Roosevelt
April 24, 1903 at Gardiner, Montana
Speech dedicating the North Entrance Arch


http://www.yellowstone-natl-park.com/arch.htm


On the west tower is carved: "Created by Act of Congress, March 1, 1872"

President Theodore Roosevelt was already in the park on vacation when asked to lay the cornerstone

[rottndog]

Looks like that was a lot of fun!

[mpreston]

Off road vehicles should only allowed in National Parks when they do little or no damage to the terrain.

Does that include humans? How about bikes? "No damage" can be construed in many ways. How about we keep the National Parks employees out? Especially if they carry matches.

[Boiling point]

OK, but I want an ADA exception for "handicapped hikers" who need an ATV to utilize the trails.