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Posted on 12/01/2005 11:47:39 AM PST by Sub-Driver
University Cancels Class on Creationism
By JOHN MILBURN, Associated Press Writer 19 minutes ago
A University of Kansas course devoted to debunking creationism and intelligent design has been canceled after the professor caused a furor by sending an e-mail mocking Christian fundamentalists.
Twenty-five students had enrolled in the course, "Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and Other Religious Mythologies," which had been scheduled for the spring.
Professor Paul Mirecki, chairman of religious studies, canceled the class Wednesday, the university said.
Mirecki recently posted an e-mail on a student organization forum in which he referred to religious conservatives as "fundies" and said a course depicting intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat face."
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It will be a nice big slap in "his" face when he stands before God for judgement.
... and asks him the Riddle of Steel. If he doesn't know, he'll be cast out of Valhalla and God will laugh at him.
This professor is clearly a total creep.
However, a straightforward course on "Survey of Creation Beliefs," or something of that nature, would be interesting and informative. Too bad this person is not really interested in teaching, only in posturing.
They were just testing the waters, and were shocked when students actually enrolled. Back to the drawing board.
College students can recognize an easy A when they see it.
Dang, I would have loved taking this course. I would have failed, but I would have made the professor life miserable. In fact, I probably would withdraw on the last day I was eligble, so my GPA would not be affected. I would like to hear how someone like this thinks and speaks.
I bet the alumni were burning up the phone lines.
Only 25 students signed up for the thing.
Another in a seemingly endless line of useless college professors.
I must have played hookey from sunday school the day that they revealed that.
He may be a creep, but he is a child of God. I think he knows the truth. There is no other reason for his militancy. They say the dog that yelps the loudest is the one the "Rock" hit. We must ask God for him by name.
I bought one of his books as a gift for my parish priest a few years ago, a book called Gospel of the Savior, a translation of a late gospel. Since my priest was taking a sabbatical to further study Biblical languages, he was very much pleased with Mirecki's book that includes an interlinear Greek/English section, showcasing the non-canonical gospel.
At any rate, Im sure the Professor Mirecki regrets his rude outburst, and I hope he continues his contribution to biblical scholarship in the future.
[...Mirecki is a believer...)
He believes in something, but I don't know that it is Christianity. Read this article from World Net Daily.
Religious Studies Prof Slurs Christians and Jews
World Net Daily ^ | 12-1-05 | Jack Cashill
Posted on 12/01/2005 1:06:53 PM PST by Jo Nuvark
Er, dont you mean "Crom"?
Not that you helped your kids get any, right?
As I already posted, I have had personal correspondence with him, and my experience was that Mirecki was a believer in God. Also, his supposed anti-Catholic bias was missing in our correspondence.
God, Crom, Cosmic Muffin... whatever.
That being said, his posts read like an Emo Philips' routine. Mirecki wrote:
I had my first Catholic holy communion when I was a kid in Chicago and when I took the bread-wafer the first time, it stuck to the roof of my mouth, and as I was secretly trying to pry it off with my tongue as I was walking back to my pew with white clothes and with my hands folded, all I could think was that it was Jesus skin, and I started to puke, but I sucked it in and drank my own puke.Do you really think that the above anecdote is factual? It seems to me that Mirecki's is a manqué humorist.
It reminds me of Emo Philips' joke:
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realized that the Lord doesnt work that way, so I stole one and asked him to forgive me.
Ah, another good thread to take us into the weekend. Cranking up the ping machine ...
Too many militant idiots sign up for the class?
I'm sure there were many others who felt like you, and that's the real reason why they canceled the course.
A little Christian intimidation always works.
I stopped reading WND when it became a vehicle for Joe Farah's campaign against evolution.
It could have been a serious conservative news outlet with a real future. But Farah's an idiot.
There are lots of us out here with no respect for anti-evolution zealots, as proved by the overwelming loss of all the Dover Pa school board members.
"Im sure the Professor Mirecki regrets his rude outburst"
If your correspondent is the Professor Mirecki mentioned in the article
linked below...he's still got some 'splaining to do.
A tree is known by its fruit. Mirecki's fruit looks more like road kill.
That's a good point, which might have occurred to me if I didn't have Pregnancy Brain :-).
And they knew that bats were birds too!! (Leviticus near chapter 13 or so IIRC)
Tha's got to be one of the best movies made; great music too.
So, you would probably support "evo fundies" going into churches, "teaching the controversy," and making people's lives miserable?
You should be glad scientists have more consideration and courtesy than that.
In a church service? No, I would not, but they are welcome to be present and speak up in a class room environment, or a Sunday School class. Sure they are welcome, but I would doubt they would come.
Now back to this course: I would like to take this course and challenge every falsehood that this professor mentions. I would definitely stand up for the creationist's point of view. Professors like this get away with everything because few people want to challenge them and affect their grades, or maybe peer pressure causes them to just be quiet. That would be the least of my concerns. I would ask the professor back up every point that goes against creation, like he would really know, ha! Of course, I would be courteous, but firm in my requests. I am not for loud-mouth actions. I really enjoy hearing 'so-called smart intelligent' people like this prove what little they really know, so that is what would make this an exciting class for me.
I was told by a Kansan that the class was "withdrawn" rather than cancelled and may be given with someone else teaching it.
Um, rawhide, the course wasn't a biology course. YOu'd have wasted your hard-earned money.
Esp since if I taught the course, I'd treat the christian creation myth on equal footing with the 100 or so other top creation myths, and you would sit there and stew (and, oh, perhaps maybe even learn a little something like how your creation myth contains bits and peices of many other creation myths that predate yours by millenia. As if by maaagic.)
But no, you would have only enrolled to be a disruptor. So I'd just fail your ass. Until you withdrew in the nick of time, of course.
Sorry, professor, I would enjoy being in your class. Would you care to tell everyone where you teach, if you even do? Yes, I would be a courteous disruptor for the cause of creation vs your pack of lies. You need more faith to believe in your pack of lies, than I do with the creation story. And if you go back to my first post, I would withdraw before you could fail me, ha! But maybe I would accept the failing grade just to stick it out to the end with you. And you call it a waste of money, but I call it a balance to the what you be teaching the other students, and maybe some would not be so gullible to believe your lies, which is all you would be teaching.
So, Rawhide, you would have made the profs life miserable.
You know something about creation, resurrection and flood myths that the rest of us don't, perhaps? New aspects of monotheism in dynastic Egypt? A previously unknown and unanticipated Sumerian translation? New insights on the development of winter solstice myths or agriculture and resurrection myths?
And with this wonderful knowledge that you alone possess, rather than share it respectfully with fellow scholars, you would make the profs life miserable. That would be your goal?
I don't think you would last long in the class. It's not like public school. Disprutors can be tossed. I think you need a reality check on how college classes work.
You (Rawhide) don't seem to get it.
If the prof is teaching, say, commonalities among New and Old world agricultural resurrection myths, you don't get to disrupt and say the others are wrong. You're there to find out what they are.
Your fellow students will shut you up even before the prof tosses you out.
"Too bad this person is not really interested in teaching, only in posturing"
If you call a student 'a disruptor' who disagrees with a professor because he is teaching nothing but lies, then I would gladly wear that label. I would have been courteous but firm in my discussions. I would not let this professor get away with spreading his lies. Too many times, these liberal professors get away with filling the minds up of impressionable students without so much of a peep from the students. Well, I read this professor's challenge from his comment that I posted, and I would gladly accept it. to be a part of his class and discussions. I would not fear getting tossed, nor being told to shut up. It is obvious that this guy has an agenda.
Your post spent a lot of words repeating your prior points.
Unfortunately, you failed to respond to my post other than to question my credentials.
Not only have I taught in college, I taught a specific class in biology for non-science majors.
When the creationism issue came up (only once in a serious way) I explained that the student was in my class to learn what scientists thought. There was no problem since the student involved could see my point. We did have a few interesting after class discussions.