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Britain to start all children with phonics
UPI ^ | 12/1/2005

Posted on 12/01/2005 4:25:16 PM PST by ncountylee

LONDON, Dec. 1 (UPI) -- Starting next year, all British school children will learn to read using the traditional technique known as synthetic phonics.

A report released Thursday said that, by the age of 11, children taught by the phonics method are typically three years ahead of others in reading ability. Jim Rose, a former director of the Office of Standards in Education and the report's author, also found that synthetic phonics works best when used alone and not in a combination of methods, the Times of London reported.

Rose recommended that children be taught nothing but phonics until they are 5, followed by a rich exposure to language. Under the present system, phonics is combined with the "look and say" method where whole words are taught.

"I am going to adopt the recommendations in this report to make sure that synthetic phonics is taught systematically and early in British schools as quickly as possible," Education Secretary Ruth Kelly said in a BBC interview.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: earlychildhood; education; language; literacy; phonics
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To: Lizavetta

That's the first time I've heard that case without makeing the political connection, of dumbing down the masses so they'd be more easily swayed.

Still, the unions think nothing of anyone but themselves, so perhaps some people give them too much credit.

Me, me, me, me, me... doesn't lend itself to "let's pitch in and help someone else."


41 posted on 12/01/2005 5:52:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Neanderthal

I think the reason liberals prefer whole language over phonics is simple.... With phonics there is always a right and wrong way to spell or pronounce a word (OK maybe a handful of exceptions). In the Whole Language approach, their is no clear right or wrong. It is the home of creative spelling.

As a junior high language teacher in AZ, I wasn't allowed to correct spelling errors in my students' work because it would stifle creativity and negatively affect their self-esteem. What a crock.


42 posted on 12/01/2005 5:53:40 PM PST by rampage8
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To: sinbad17

China does not have an alphabet, therefore, no phonetics. Japan has two alphabets and Chinese characters, so partially phonetic and sight reading.


43 posted on 12/01/2005 6:01:02 PM PST by fightnback
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To: DoughtyOne
"Why it was ever stopped, I can't imagine."

It was stopped by Leftist/Liberal administrators in total control of our educational systems -- to INTENTIONALLY impede the education of our children..

Leftists/Liberals require an uneducated citizenry to buy the bullsqat they're selling.... The public must be dumbed down, made dependent on Government and taught only to repeat the inane cliches of the left...

That's why our children are NOT being taught in the most effective manner possible to read --- they might read HISTORY and actually learn the truth...

Semper Fi

44 posted on 12/01/2005 6:09:18 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

bump!


45 posted on 12/01/2005 6:11:26 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: mtbopfuyn

LOL!


46 posted on 12/01/2005 6:12:21 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: lizma

That would be fine, as long as they continue phonics steadily. The curriculum I use has phonics classes through seventh grade!


47 posted on 12/01/2005 6:13:11 PM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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To: ncountylee
"synthetic phonics"

Natural organic phonics are better.

48 posted on 12/01/2005 6:17:38 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

"Natural organic phonics are better."

Don't tell me you are a phonetatarian?!

(yes, it is sarcasm)


49 posted on 12/01/2005 6:20:49 PM PST by fightnback
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To: river rat
That's pretty much my take as well, but over the last twenty years I've come to realize that the RP is just as willing to see kids fail as the left is.

Look, I know we throw more money at education all the time, but lets be serious. Do we go after the teachers unions? Do we dismantle the DoE? For all the hoopla, test scores only go up by hook or by crook. Five to ten later and we're all shocked to find that our kids still aren't learning.

I'm sorry, but the truth hurts. The people I have supported have allowed this to continue. I'm not happy about it.
50 posted on 12/01/2005 6:22:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

you know, I have heard that synthetic phonetics may lead to mad kau dizeeze


51 posted on 12/01/2005 6:23:08 PM PST by fightnback
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To: DoughtyOne; river rat
Do we go after the teachers unions?

Going after the NEA would be a great start.

52 posted on 12/01/2005 6:25:05 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: ncountylee

I got hooked on phonics but through rehab I'm doing better. Taking it one day at a time.


53 posted on 12/01/2005 6:27:13 PM PST by newfreep
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To: LexBaird
So, how does one use phonics to pronounce "drought", "nought", "worchestershire" and "colour"?

And why is that more of a problem than "looking" at NUCLEAR and "saying" NU-KEW-LAR?

54 posted on 12/01/2005 6:29:07 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: ncountylee
[ Britain to start all children with phonics ]

Ah! but will hang by the neck until dead those still living that STOPPED Britain from teaching phonics in the past..?

55 posted on 12/01/2005 6:32:01 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: lizma

Those High-School grads didn't learn to read (or not learn to read, as the case may be) when Davis was Governor. No party is clean on this front.

There's evidence for and against either method. I wonder if maybe SOME kids learn better one way and SOME kids learn better the other way? Perhaps the real task is figuring out which group a kid falls into.

I'm not a big fan of one-size-fits-all in almost ANY area, and I really don't like it in education.


56 posted on 12/01/2005 6:33:55 PM PST by Bubbatuck ("Hillary Clinton can kiss my ass" - Tim Robbins)
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To: ncountylee

Excellent. I do wish this would be implemented in ALL public schools in America. It was there for me and gave me the help i needed to start reading (and writing) on my own.


57 posted on 12/01/2005 6:36:54 PM PST by Liberty Valance ("Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." - oh, and Merry Christmas!)
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To: sinbad17
You forgot the great George Bernard Shaw's speeling of FISH:
GHOTI

It sounds presumptuous to say so, but GBS was totally illiterate (assuming it's anything more than a joke) when he came up with this. AFAIK,

"GH" is only an "f" sound at the end of a root* word: laugh, cough, etc, or as part of "ght" at the end: draught, etc.

"TI" is only an "sh" sound in before a vowel: nation, presidential, etc.

"O" is only a short "i" sound in the word "women".

* Meaning it retains the "f" sound before any suffices: laughing, coughs, etc.

58 posted on 12/01/2005 6:49:16 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: sinbad17
I respect your opinion, and we may agree to disagree, but a clarification is in order.

Ask yourself what is the purpose of reading.

That was my point exactly. What is the point in of walking? What is the point in speaking? Well, what is the point in living?

The point is that (i) it is the person's right to decide how to use those instruments of life and life itself: as a parent you merely endow the child with those instruments. The parallel with speaking is particularly accurate: you teach the child to pronounce words properly without and do not even bother with the meaning attached them. "This is a bird," you say, "Say: bird..." And that's all. It is only later that you engage in comparisons from which the child learns to differentiate birds and dogs, say. The second point is that, even if you deny the right to construct the meaning and take it upon yourself to transmit it --- you quickly find yourself unable to do so. Hardly any parent can explain mathematics, for instance --- including people that took and use calculus, say. What mathematics is and how it is done is mostly unknown even to educated people. What is the meaning of war? peace? friendship? love? hate?

To be sure, you do answer child's questions at the rudimentary level. But the true meaning of these words is a debatable and philosophical matter. You simply cannot transmit it to the child.

In sum, it's both not right and impossible to transmit the meaning to any appreciable extent. What you give is the mechanical ability to read. And THEN the learning begins. The child reads, discussed what (s)he read with you and subsequently teachers in school, college, etc. --- and from THAT decides on the meaning. Naturally, it's a life-long process.

We read merely to complete communication.

That too is the modern mantra. Again, substitute "speak" for "read" --- do you insist that the child "understands" what fatherhood is when you teach him/her to pronounce "daddy?". For centuries, people have taught children to read, count, write, sing, walk in the same manner: do it first, do it well, and then decide how you are going to apply it and what to make of it. Critical thinking is an altogether different faculty that is and must be cultivated separately, and reading is merely an instrument for that. In recent decades, the "revolutionaries" convinced you that reading is different form speaking, walking, etc. It is not. The empirical evidence is overwhelming: after decades of teaching mechanic of reading simultaneously with conceptualization, the American public is more ignorant and uneducated than at any time in its history.

59 posted on 12/01/2005 6:59:34 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: LexBaird

Your right I don't know where you are coming from...

maybe discord?


60 posted on 12/01/2005 7:14:08 PM PST by restornu (Rush 24/7 Adopt-A-Soldier Program solution to CNN)
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