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Jurors: Death for Fla. Girl's Killer
AP ^ | 3 minutes ago

Posted on 12/01/2005 5:34:32 PM PST by BenLurkin

SARASOTA, Fla. - Joseph Smith should be executed for kidnapping, raping and murdering Carlie Brucia, the 11-year-old girl whose abduction was captured by a surveillance camera and broadcast around the world, a jury recommended Thursday.

Jurors deliberated five hours before arriving at their recommendation, voting 10-2 for the death penalty. Circuit Judge Andrew Owens ultimately will issue the sentence, as early as next month. Under the law, he must give great weight to the jury's choice before imposing a sentence of death or life in prison without parole.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: carliebrucia; deathsentence; killhim; sexoffender
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1 posted on 12/01/2005 5:34:32 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

This is the same state that killed Terri. One can only hope it's a better judge.


2 posted on 12/01/2005 5:36:08 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: BenLurkin
10-2? Makes me wonder who the two were who wanted to spare his life. Probably brain dead murderer loving libs.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

3 posted on 12/01/2005 5:36:20 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: BenLurkin

What is the death row wait in FL?


4 posted on 12/01/2005 5:36:27 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>)
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To: BenLurkin

Ping me in 2016 and we'll celebrate when this pos dies finally.


5 posted on 12/01/2005 5:37:02 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: UB355
I hope it is less than the ludicrous 26 years that Tookie has flourished behind bars here in Cali.
6 posted on 12/01/2005 5:37:33 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: UB355

Didn't Tookie wait 24 years?


7 posted on 12/01/2005 5:38:15 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: BenLurkin

OK, Ben ... I'm with you. :)


8 posted on 12/01/2005 5:38:45 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: BenLurkin

How in hell could there be two jurors refuse to execute this bastard..

He was FILMED taking the girl....
He told where the body could be found..
There is no question of his guilt....

In a just world - they would fry the two jurors with him...

Semper Fi


9 posted on 12/01/2005 5:39:08 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Normal4me
Make that 2035. I'll be six feet under by then.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

10 posted on 12/01/2005 5:39:48 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: UB355

USA avg

11 posted on 12/01/2005 5:40:16 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: SteveMcKing

I can't imagaine that there is any question about the punishment he deserves! Good grief--draw and quarter him immediately!


12 posted on 12/01/2005 5:40:26 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Normal4me; BenLurkin
Ping me in 2016 and we'll celebrate when this pos dies finally.

Which celebrities will be protesting to save him?

13 posted on 12/01/2005 5:41:54 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: SteveMcKing

The state did not kill terri.


14 posted on 12/01/2005 5:43:50 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Peta girls end up as spinsters)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I predict that there will be NO celebrities lobbying for this person:

There just isn't any "celebrity" appeal.

15 posted on 12/01/2005 5:43:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: bert
The state did not kill terri.

Technically, some dotor did the deed. The state is much to blame.

16 posted on 12/01/2005 5:46:29 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: SteveMcKing
DoCtor.
17 posted on 12/01/2005 5:47:20 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: SteveMcKing

I thought it was Terri that did not want to live that way.


18 posted on 12/01/2005 5:49:38 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: goldstategop
This POS should be led to the gallows at 9am tomorrow.

Won't happen. But just remember that this was an Eleven year old girl who had no chance once this POS grabbed her arm!

19 posted on 12/01/2005 5:51:24 PM PST by rocksblues (I support the war on terror)
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To: BenLurkin

The earth is soiled by his continued presence.


20 posted on 12/01/2005 6:01:01 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: robertpaulsen
I thought it was Terri that did not want to live that way.

A doctor killed Terri through Michael's exploitation of state policy. She left scant evidence of her own wishes.

21 posted on 12/01/2005 6:01:55 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: river rat
Plus the scumbag has a lengthy criminal history, several times liberal judges let him back on the streets.

It's time for Ol' Sparky to come out of retirement, and fry this creep like that one dude in "The Green Mile," in which the skull cap was dry.

22 posted on 12/01/2005 6:02:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
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To: BenLurkin

Just think. This lucky guy's name will go in the hat to be heralded by the Liberal MSM as being the star of the 2000th execution! It could happen with the appeals and all.


23 posted on 12/01/2005 6:03:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's no coincidence that the Democrat mascot is a jackass.)
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To: SteveMcKing
"She left scant evidence of her own wishes."

Scant???

The judge stated he had "clear and convincing evidence" as to Terri's wishes, as told to him in sworn testimony by three different people when relating three different occassions.

The doctor allowed Terri to die by removing the surgically implanted feeding tube.

Take your propaganda elsewhere.

24 posted on 12/01/2005 6:11:07 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: BenLurkin

So two jurors think kidnapping, raping and killing is OK? Those two jurors are evil!


25 posted on 12/01/2005 6:11:36 PM PST by ConservativeChinese (I'm a Chinese, no affirmative action needed, thank you.)
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To: BenLurkin
And now the media wants to murder the little girl all over again by demanding to see the photos of the crime scene.

They feel they have the right to see her battered body.

DAMN THE MEDIA TO HELL FOR ALL TIME

26 posted on 12/01/2005 6:12:33 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: robertpaulsen

? Think again.


27 posted on 12/01/2005 6:13:17 PM PST by trustandobey (Delay -Johnson 2008)
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To: BunnySlippers
Didn't Tookie wait 24 years?

Hell, he's still room temp, and has an "important meeting" with the governor this coming Tuesday!

28 posted on 12/01/2005 6:15:09 PM PST by ErnBatavia (403-3)
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To: Normal4me

"Ping me in 2016 and we'll celebrate when this pos dies finally."

11 years from now?!?!?! By the standards in place that would mean he is on a fast track.


29 posted on 12/01/2005 6:16:56 PM PST by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: robertpaulsen; SteveMcKing

She shoulda had it in writing...I think that's Steve's point.


30 posted on 12/01/2005 6:18:19 PM PST by ErnBatavia (403-3)
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To: ErnBatavia

Tookie won't be there, only his attorneys.


31 posted on 12/01/2005 6:18:43 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: trustandobey
"? Think again."

After rethinking, I've concluded that Terri that did not want to live that way.

32 posted on 12/01/2005 6:23:34 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: UB355

Average 12.74 years.


33 posted on 12/01/2005 6:24:04 PM PST by GatorGirl
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To: BenLurkin

It doesn't have to be unanimous for death penalty verdicts?


34 posted on 12/01/2005 6:25:45 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: ConservativeChinese

Just because they thought execution was inappropriate in this case does not mean they condone his acts. There's no need to stretch the truth, here.


35 posted on 12/01/2005 6:29:20 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: robertpaulsen

Fortunately, your thoughts and mine are meaningless where the willful termination of a third party is concerned.


36 posted on 12/01/2005 6:30:27 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: robertpaulsen
the lovely three who testified were
Micheal and his relatives !
mike's brother , sister in-law, and good mike
who just happened to win a 1 million settlement
months before.
mike and his relatives said the now died one made a comment while watching a movie about " Karen Ann Quinlen".
So robert be careful about your commentary around your in laws during the holiday !
37 posted on 12/01/2005 6:30:28 PM PST by BurtTpa
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To: river rat
Perhaps the two jurors are rapists as well, and fear that one day they may be in the same situation as the murderer. A stretch, but one must wonder when you consider what that poor, helpless child went through before her death.
38 posted on 12/01/2005 6:36:36 PM PST by This Just In ("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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To: UB355
Found this, part of a Jan. 2000 article from Orland newspaper:

Most legislators agree Florida should abandon its 75-year reliance on the electric chair as the state's sole means of capital punishment. But the 3-day session may become bogged down by Gov. Jeb Bush's demand that lawmakers also shorten the appeals process for condemned inmates, who now spend an average 14 years on death row.

39 posted on 12/01/2005 6:43:13 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, but I won’t back down)
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To: BenLurkin

Good, it makes me sick to think of that poor little girl


40 posted on 12/01/2005 6:44:13 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, but I won’t back down)
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To: Normal4me

So soon?


41 posted on 12/01/2005 6:44:18 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Popman

I knew the 70's were good for something...


42 posted on 12/01/2005 6:45:14 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: BenLurkin

If the state of florida would like to supply me a round trip plane ticket and a 1911 pistol, I'm willing to show up and do the job for them. I'll even supply my own ammo.

(note: I'd like to keep the 1911, though).


43 posted on 12/01/2005 7:00:43 PM PST by flashbunny (To err is human. But to really screw something up, have the government try to fix it.)
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To: river rat
In a just world - they would fry the two jurors with him...

I agree. Those two jurors are the kind of enablers who allow pieces of dogcrap like Smith to do what they do. Those two scumbag jurors are culpable and should die with him.

44 posted on 12/01/2005 7:07:13 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BenLurkin

MSM teases the verdict for the 11 PM news but who can wait that long when you know the answer is on FR!


45 posted on 12/01/2005 7:32:05 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("I got the gun honey, you want me to shoot him?" Anne Mitchell, Albany, GA)
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To: Lancey Howard

Well....see....he was addicted to drugs. He had a back injury and was addicted to painkillers. And, when he was born, he had a cone head and 2 black eyes. And he had just lost his job and his wife had kicked him out. And when he was young, he helped his aunt make meatballs and drew her a pic of a rose and his old prom date testified that he was sweet and taught her to play pool and his barber likes him. And his addictionologist doctor loves him...she told him so last time she visited him in jail. And he's a very good mechanic and can fix roofs. whew

See?


46 posted on 12/01/2005 7:41:34 PM PST by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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"It doesn't have to be unanimous for death penalty verdicts?"

Criminal verdicts must be unanimous. Jury recommendation at penalty phase is by majority.

47 posted on 12/01/2005 8:07:41 PM PST by Bonaparte
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"mike and his relatives said the now died one made a comment while watching a movie about " Karen Ann Quinlen"."

Really now. I heard different.

"Statements which Terri Schiavo made which do support the relief sought by her surrogate (Petitioner/Guardian) include statements to him prompted by her grandmother being in intensive care that if she was ever a burden she would not want to live like that. Additionally, statements made to Michael Schiavo which were prompted by something on television regarding people on life support that she would not want [a] life like that also reflect her intention in this particular situation. Also the statements she made in the presence of Scott Schiavo at the funeral luncheon for his grandmother that "if I ever go like that just let me go. Don't leave me there. I don't want to be kept alive on a machine" and to Joan Schiavo following a television movie in which a man following an accident was in a coma to the effect that she wanted it stated in her will that she would want the tubes and everything taken out if that happened to her are likewise reflective of this intent."

"The court specifically finds that these statements are Terri Schiavo's oral declarations concerning her intention as to what she would want done under the present circumstances and the testimony regarding such oral declarations is reliable, is creditable and rises to the level of clear and convincing evidence to this court."

Your information is crap.

48 posted on 12/01/2005 8:09:07 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: goldstategop
Probably brain dead murderer loving libs.

There's no shortage of those in Sarasota. I know, I used to live there.

49 posted on 12/01/2005 8:17:26 PM PST by epow ("Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people" Prov. 14:34)
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To: robertpaulsen

Actually, according to terri's family, who are just as if not more reliable since they had no ulterior motives tat are apparent, she had never made ANY comments regardng that. I feel in a case such as this, where her parents were willing to take care of her, and since she had made no living will or any kind of formal declaration, they should have erred on the side of life.
If you have an opinion on things like that, have a living will, and make it official. I've had my living will since I was 19.


50 posted on 12/01/2005 8:43:47 PM PST by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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