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Arnold's New Dance Partner
CaliforniaRepublic.org ^ | 12/2/05 | Eric Hogue

Posted on 12/02/2005 11:03:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge

We can discuss all of the details surrounding the bad run up to the election, the mistakes with drafting the initiatives and the battles within the horseshoe itself...but time calls for me to be short and to the point:

1. I'm still placing some 'blame' squarely upon the conservatives of the Republican Party. The "Tombots", along with the 'continual vendetta crowd' (you know who you are) never embraced Arnold. Simple 'pride' wouldn't let go of the 'sour grapes' they held as the party went for the win in the recall election (BTW: I still believe it was the right thing to do!). They eventually drove support, and voters away from Arnold's administration and his agenda.

Arnold was willing to stick his neck our on conservative issues, legislation, vetoes and a tough (not perfect) special ballot. He did accomplished some major successes for the Republican ideology. But in the end, the major loss surrounding the "Special Election" left him cold, he didn't feel the love from the conservative core, he got mad...so he has changed dance partners. He is now a scorned lover.

2. This administration's conservative agenda, whether fiscal or social, is over. Arnold has no direction and no 'trust' from any of the Republican leaders. He has decided to make his bed in the 'moderate center', and the liberal core socially. Yes, there are some encouraging words about Susan Kennedy's tough stance on the 'tax and spend' mentality of the Democrat majority, but I have little hope that we can escape tax increases in the next budget. Forget about our chances when it comes to "Same Sex Marriage" and conservative ideals as they relate to legislation. The only question that remains is how long Legislative Affairs Secretary Richard Costigan and Deputy Cynthia Bryant will call the horseshoe home.

3. I'm guessing a large, wide majority of the GOP will further sour on Arnold Schwarzenegger, this will cause him to move further and further to the left. He is a man who likes to be liked. I wouldn't be surprised if he announced himself as an 'Independent' for his second run as governor. No, not to mimic the position of Jessie Ventura (Arnold is not a Jesse, he's bright, intelligent and personally successful), but he might move to the Independent statements, if not the full party affiliation move, to make a statement to the populous of the voters in California..."I'm no ultra-conservative Republican, and I'm not a liberal Democrat, I'm my own man, and Independent of sorts." He came close Wednesday afternoon during the press conference.

4. The party needs to make a decision, do you run with this guy, or do you find another horse? Right now the party has no other option, and Schwarzenegger knows it, advantage Arnold, and Phil Angelides. It may be ten years before the GOP has another opportunity.

5. Finally, remember the "missed opportunity" here; we had a very conservative ballot, and a very conservative possibility for the state fiscally, as well as socially with Prop 73. We...we, the voters did NOT run to the polls as did the unions and the Democrats.

We, the conservatives should take one hard lesson from this disaster; when you have a chance to support a candidate that is 75% conservative, or an initiative ballot that is 60%, or even 50%, of what is needed and desired - we MUST support it with gusto. Increments toward the right, especially in California, are steps in the "right direction".

Now, because of vendetta on our part, and an ego that is looking to be loved on Arnold's part, the Republican Party is shrinking right along with the future of this state.

In summary; Governor Schwarzenegger we all lost the "Special Election", but with this nomination as Chief of Staff, you have lost me as a supporter of your administration. It is now a pitch-by-pitch scenario governor, and we are expecting a few curve balls, careful when and where you throw them

The "Home of the Recall" stands at a distance!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; dancing; oneterminator; partner; tombots
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Eric Hogue is a talk radio host at Sacramento station KTKZ and is the principal behind the blog Hogue Blog.
1 posted on 12/02/2005 11:03:04 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Would you like some gubamint cheese to go along with your whine, Eric?


2 posted on 12/02/2005 11:03:31 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm still placing some 'blame' squarely upon the conservatives of the Republican Party.

That's right...blame the Conservatives while Arnold's crew increasingly reflects Gray Davis's old staff.

What a clueless tool. Someone should see what he's spiking the Kool-Aid with.


3 posted on 12/02/2005 11:06:37 AM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Its our fault and we deserved to get socked. Too bad we couldn't swallow a Democrat Lite agenda.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

4 posted on 12/02/2005 11:07:52 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge

aRnold is no FRed Astaire and Susan is definitely no Ginger. DUhhh!

What's the old saying 'bout dancing with the gal that brung ya?

Keep in mind he got a majority of his votes from dems and indies, not conservatives.


5 posted on 12/02/2005 11:09:27 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

"There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil."
AYN RAND


6 posted on 12/02/2005 11:09:32 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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To: NormsRevenge
The "Tombots", along with the 'continual vendetta crowd' (you know who you are) never embraced Arnold. Simple 'pride' wouldn't let go of the 'sour grapes' they held as the party went for the win in the recall election

*snicker*
He surely is a Freeper.

7 posted on 12/02/2005 11:13:16 AM PST by PRND21
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To: NormsRevenge
He has decided to make his bed in the 'moderate center', and the liberal core socially.

I don't think this is a change...

8 posted on 12/02/2005 11:14:49 AM PST by GVnana
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To: goldstategop
The circular shooting squad is getting started early.

The special election was a bad idea tactically in a state like Colly-four-nya. Likely voters in these events are driven by machines and all the machines in CA are on the left. What failed then would have passed or been much, much closer if it was on the general ballot.

When thinking about CA, if you ever get depressed and don't know where to put your efforst, just visualize "Lt. Governor Tom McClintock."

9 posted on 12/02/2005 11:14:52 AM PST by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: GVgirl

Now if he would at least try and fake a visit to fiscal sanity and not propose another close to 10 % increase in the budget..


10 posted on 12/02/2005 11:16:27 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge
I said it before and I will say it many times more...

IF EVERY CONSERVATIVE TURNED OUT AND VOTED FOR THESE PIGS IN A POKE THEY WOULD HAVE STILL LOST AGAINIST THE MONEY AND LIES OF THE UNION GOONS!

Did The Arnold do all he could to raise tens of millions to promote them?

11 posted on 12/02/2005 11:18:59 AM PST by tubebender (Why is it we never have time to visit family when they are alive but can always make their funerals)
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To: NormsRevenge
Keep in mind he got a majority of his votes from dems and indies, not conservatives.

Bingo. And that's because there aren't enough conservatives in California to win a statewide election. You have to build alliances -- good old-fashioned retail politics -- or you perish.

12 posted on 12/02/2005 11:26:36 AM PST by Publius
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To: PRND21

the party went for the win in the recall election
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and lost its arse downstream as a result of the state budgets proposed by the "True Reformer" that were as substantial as any dem Gub would likely have proposed.


13 posted on 12/02/2005 11:27:26 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

If Arnold thinks he can appeal to the left enough to get them to vote Republican, he's out of his skull.

This is nothing more than small-minded stupidity from a guy who is too much in love with himself and wants to find someone else to blame when he loses.

Actually, I know quite a few Freepers who gritted their teeth, swallowed their principles, and voted for this Schlemiel in the special election, because they were persuaded that that was the only way to defeat Bustamente. And maybe in the circumstances, they were right.

Frankly, it's too bad that Rove and Parsky rammed this idiot into the recall process in the first place after the real conservatives managed the recall. Now they are about to reap what they have sown--the further destruction of the California Republican party and Arnold's defeat in the next primary or the general election if he switches to independent.


14 posted on 12/02/2005 11:29:47 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Publius

So the reality is conservatism is not worth fighting for in California is what you are effectively saying.

Oh, now I get it. I guess we bettere tell the small minority presence in the legsilature to just roll over and go along woth the head schlemiel and let taxes get raised, and to hell with what 5.5 million constituents believe in.

It appears FR is full of defeatism, at least when it comes to California anyway.


15 posted on 12/02/2005 11:38:05 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; FOG724; calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan

He's just as "stuck on stupid" as Hew Hewittless!!!


16 posted on 12/02/2005 11:45:23 AM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Prime Choice

Absolutely Perfect!!!


17 posted on 12/02/2005 11:45:58 AM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; calcowgirl
They eventually drove support, and voters away from Arnold's administration and his agenda.

I do believe Arnold did that, not us. This is getting so old.

18 posted on 12/02/2005 11:48:33 AM PST by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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To: NormsRevenge
This administration's conservative agenda, whether fiscal or social, is over.

You mean it had one? This is big news. Why didn't I hear about this?

19 posted on 12/02/2005 11:50:01 AM PST by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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To: Publius; NormsRevenge
"You have to build alliances"

Granted, but not with the devils like the GangGreenGubernor has been doing repeatedly!!!

Plus, as George Washington said... "Beware of entangling alliances!"

20 posted on 12/02/2005 11:52:02 AM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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