Skip to comments.Girl can sue school for telling mom she's gay
Posted on 12/03/2005 5:14:42 AM PST by bulldozer
SANTA ANA, Calif. - A federal judge ruled that a lesbian student can sue her school district and her principal for revealing her homosexuality to her mother.
Charlene Nguon, 17, may go forward with her suit claiming violation of privacy rights, U.S. District Judge James V. Selna ruled in a decision dated Nov. 28 and announced Thursday by the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California.
Orange Countys Garden Grove district had argued that Nguon openly kissed and hugged her girlfriend on campus and thus had no expectation of privacy.
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I wonder if a failing student can sue the school for sending a report card home to the parents and revealing that the child is an idiot...
[Charlene Nguon, 17, may go forward with her suit claiming violation of privacy rights, U.S. District Judge James V. Selna]
The fascist left continues it's assault on justice,morality,and God and will one day reap the wind.
When it suits them, the left tries to impart the full constitutional rights to children. At 17 this young woman is nearly an adult in California, but she isn't.
Sorry, but IMO her parents have every right to this information. This girl needs some parental counseling. It may not accomplish much, but she should hear it anyway.
"Mom, I have an idea. There's this dyke at school and I think she has a crush on me. It's gross, but this may work out. How about if I kiss her -- take it easy! Take it easy! -- right in front of a teacher. I bet the school will call you up."
"So, you act all upset! Then I act all upset that I've been "outed"! Stop giggling, mom! Then we sue the school! We get a bunch of money, and then I can go to college!"
"It's so crazy it might work. But we better make sure if your father is OK with this."
Strange as it seems, she has a legit case [and its not easy for me to spit out those words].
From what I gather, the school had no written policy that speaks to public "displays of affection" and there are no "cases" of strait couples being suspended for similar behaviour.
Had the school had a written policy in hand, with evidense that actions were taken with couples in the past? She'd have no case.
I see a quiet settlement in her future.
Her parents apparently are the ones who are upset! The article has the mom complaining that the daughter was in trouble for open lesbo behavior when heteros weren't puninshed.
The person to decide when and how to talk with our family about this should have been my daughter, not her principal, her mother, Crystal Chhun, said in a statement.
District officials have declined to comment on the lawsuit.
The lawsuit also claims discrimination, contending Nguon was suspended several times for ignoring orders from the principal to stop hugging and kissing her girlfriend. Heterosexual couples engaging in similar behavior were not disciplined, the lawsuit contends."
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.
Public schools are child abuse. Friends don't let their friends abuse children.
Thanks. I don't hit the links very often. I read what can be printed here and comment.
Well you certainly pointed out accurately what the problem is. Good ole mom is more concerned about 'privacy' than muff diving.
My what a great set of priorities.
The real issue is if the school can be "slugmouthed" such that it will no longer disclose to the parents "sexual preference" the that can be used as a basis to not tell a parent of a child is pregnant and is considering or has had an abortion.
Ridiculous. If she did not want her mom to know, then she should not have told the school.
How is it that the school knew if this is a matter of privacy?
I know...the issue is absurd and a sad comment. And BTW....I also overheard Nappy talking on Fox about the issue....I wasnt expressing my personal view....but rather Nappy's....that sounded reasonable and organized.
If she wins the suit I wonder if the judge could set up the settlement something like: If you ever get married or give birth you pay back the school board with interest and penalty plus you get tried for fraud.
I didn't know that minor children had any legal or constitutional expectation of privacy FROM THEIR PARENTS!
Mind you, I said legal or constitutional. A child may feel, rightly, that certain personal activities, at home even, DESERVE some "privacy", but I believe that is a personal matter and not a legal matter, and should be breached by respsonsible parents when they think they have good grounds to do so.
It seems to me that the real issue is whether schools should report potentially troublesome behavior of a minor child to her parents. And the answer, clearly, is "Yes."
If a child is doing badly in one of her courses, the parents should be notified before they get the failing grade on a report card, so they can try to straighten it out. If a child vandalizes school property, the parents should be told. If a child misbehaves in any way, the parents should be told. The parents are the proper guardians of a child, and should normally be told about ANY potential problems their child is getting into.
So, why is this different? No, I know, I don't need to ask. Gay relations are a political third rail. Nevertheless, it's quite proper to tell the parents if a child is smooching on school property, with a member of the same or opposite sex. Whether or not it's a legal offense, the parents should know what their children are doing.
The real problem is that liberal judges want to keep parents entirely out of schools, so they cannot enforce their own values on their children. The schools want total control, so they view informing parents about how their children are doing as a violation of privacy. Nonsense. Minor children don't have privacy from parents if they are doing something wrong or questionable. Parents need to know what their children are doing.
This child's name sounds Asian. I would guess that she has strict, traditional parents of the Asian school, but that she is turning into a rebellious American teenager. It's a tough situation, but it isn't the school's job to help her rebel against her parents.
Looks like a slam dunk case FOR the school district to me!
About 10 or 15 years ago, someone told me that many (he used the word most) gays were abused as children. Don't know how true it is, but it appears that if that hypothesis is true, and I've seen it repeated here on FR, then her parental counseling will probably be far worse than good.
The agenda of the ACLU and the Left is to afford minors, a protected class, with constitutional "rights". Soon, 10 year olds can flip their parents the "bird" and be protected under the 1st. Amendment.
Marx marches on.
Maybe we need new street signs: "Someone's tongue down your throat? Get a room."
Federal Judicial Service:
U. S. District Court, Central District of California Nominated by George W. Bush on January 29, 2003, to a seat vacated by J. Spencer Letts; Confirmed by the Senate on March 27, 2003, and received commission on March 27, 2003.
Stanford University, A.B., 1967
Stanford Law School, J.D., 1970
Captain, U.S. Army Reserve, 1967-1978
Private practice, California, 1970-1998 Judge, Superior Court, Orange County, California, 1998-2003
Race or Ethnicity: White
However parents, at first blush, act offended when you try and explain to them that minors do not possess any constitutional rights unless the child commits a crime. Children are a protected class. Rights are conferred at eighteen. The majority of America's parents do not realize that the ACLU is taking their kids away from them by granting minors "Rights". It's a paradox and it's sad.
17 year old can't sue on her own behalf.
Well, according to the leftist judges, children have a right to privacy when it comes to their parents knowing who, or what, they're screwing and whether or not a child is produced that they want to kill.
But on the other hand, it that abuse was at the hands of another (not the parents) the counseling could lead to the kid opening up and busting some cretan.
I agree. The left seems hell bent on destroying a parent's ability to "parent" their children. Look at Rob Reiner's attempt to start manditory Pre-School at four. Then it would be three, two...
Hillary's "It Takes a Village" is nothing more than an attempt to introduce this concept into the American psyche IMO.
Certainly true, but instead of a cookie cutter solution of letting the parents handle it, if they are the root of the problem, letting them handle it will probably not repair the issue.
I don't buy the theory that the majority of homosexual's parents influenced their choices.
You are advocating the prevention of parents being in the loop in all cases (of this variety), and I think that's unfortunate.
If you want on/off the ping list let me and little jeremiah know.
Yep, one out of six people in the U.S. lives in CA. You're going to read a lot of stories about weirdos, liberals, normal people, brave people, heroes and conservatives -- all from California. If you choose to make a note of just the weirdos, you will have the impression that everyone here is a nut job. It doesn't serve any purpose but to make you sound ignorant. If that's what you want though, go for it.
I'll get to work on my stupid farmer from Nebraska list.
I have been before Selna. He is a very smart, diligent, and cerebral judge.
And they wonder why Virgin statues are weeping tears of blood in California. ...
Not at all. I want good parents involved and told of problems with their children. I think parents, responsible and loving parents, need to be intimately and actively involved in their childrens lives, problems, sucesses and activities.
The problem is, there are many parents who simply aren't good parents.
Even some sheltered children seem to find gay lifestyles now. Those sheltered children likely were influenced by the home. Maybe not a culture of homosexuality in that home, but something very unnormal.
Reason #289 to homeschool. Bump.