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Candlelight Vigil Today for Williams (another Tookie story)
abc tv los angeles ^ | 12-4-05

Posted on 12/04/2005 9:51:03 AM PST by doug from upland

Candlelight Vigil Today for Williams

LOS ANGELES - Activists seeking clemency for convicted killer and Crips gang co-founder Stanley "Tookie" Williams will hold a candlelight vigil today in front of the restaurant founded by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Schwarzenegger has scheduled a private clemency hearing Thursday with Williams' lawyers and prosecutors. The rally will be held at Schatzi on Main in Santa Monica, according to Danielle Heck of the Save Tookie Committee-LA.

Schwarzenegger no longer owns the restaurant.

Yesterday, a rally was held in Leimert Park to urge Schwarzenegger to grant clemency to Williams, who is scheduled to be executed Dec. 13.

In addition to seeking clemency for Williams, participants expressed opposition to the death penalty in general, Heck said. Two other executions are scheduled in California in coming months.

Williams was convicted and sentenced to death in 1981 for four Southland murders.

His supporters believe Williams, who has maintained his innocence and hopes to become the first California condemned murderer to be granted clemency since 1967, has redeemed himself in prison through his work encouraging young people to stay out of gangs.

They also contend Williams, who is black, was convicted by a jury without any black jurors on circumstantial evidence and questionable testimony by jailhouse informants.

Prosecutors say Williams never accepted responsibility for the murders of Albert Owens, a Whittier 7-Eleven employee, and the shotgun murders of Thsai- Shai Yang, Yen-I Yang and Yee Chen Lin at a South Vermont Avenue motel less than two weeks later.

In a 50-page response to Williams' petition for executive clemency, Los Angeles County prosecutors wrote that "this cold-blooded killer, Stanley Williams, now seeks mercy, the very mercy he so callously denied" the four murder victims.

Included in the response were letters from law enforcement officials and two family members of one of his victims, all urging Schwarzenegger to let the execution proceed.

Williams, now 51, was 16 when he and a high school friend, Raymond Washington, began the Crips in South Los Angeles in 1971.

Known as "Big Took" to fellow Crips, Williams helped build the gang into a nationwide criminal enterprise that continues to spawn street violence more than 30 years later.

Since being condemned to death, Williams has renounced his gang past, penned children's books, been the subject of a cable TV movie called "Redemption" starring Jamie Foxx and was nominated in 2000 for a Nobel Peace Prize by Swiss Parliament member Mario Fehr for work he has done to curtail youth violence from his 9-foot-by-4-foot cell on San Quentin's death row.

Calls for clemency have been mounting from religious and community leaders and celebrities such as Foxx, the rapper Snoop Dogg, actor Mike Farrell and activist Bianca Jagger


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arnold; journeyonthegurney; lethalinjection; noclemency; stanleywilliams; tookie
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1 posted on 12/04/2005 9:51:04 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Candlelight Vigil Today for Williams

I'll bring the marshmallows.

2 posted on 12/04/2005 9:53:35 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver
I'll throw the marshmallows.

How do you have a candlelight vigil during the daytime?

3 posted on 12/04/2005 9:54:48 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: All
For those who haven't heard it yet, tune in to the John and Ken show on KFI 640 in Los Angeles. M-F at 5pm Pacific, they do the TOOKIE MUST DIE HOUR. It is great radio. Listen online at www.KFI640.com
4 posted on 12/04/2005 9:56:36 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: doug from upland
will hold a candlelight vigil today

It would be nice if a strong breeze would extinguish the flames, even if Karl Rove would get blamed for the breeze.

5 posted on 12/04/2005 9:58:10 AM PST by syriacus (There oughtta be a law -- that the image of every pill sold in the US is on one government website)
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To: doug from upland
Raffle off tickets for chance to put a .22 short behind this creep's left ear. State can then make a buck, end of story.
6 posted on 12/04/2005 9:59:39 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: doug from upland

Heard you on the radio the other day. How neat to be able to put a voice to your lyrical posts!!


7 posted on 12/04/2005 9:59:51 AM PST by syriacus (There oughtta be a law -- that the image of every pill sold in the US is on one government website)
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To: doug from upland; All

Boy I wish I could be there to participate.

You would be able to notice which one was me.

I'd be the one wearing the welding mask, with a cart carrying my lit cutting torch......


8 posted on 12/04/2005 10:03:15 AM PST by musicman
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To: syriacus

Glad you heard it. I've been calling talk shows for many years.


9 posted on 12/04/2005 10:03:57 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: doug from upland
The Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, has ruled that all Illinois pharmacists must be willing dispense morning-after pills if they are presented with the prescription and their pharmacy dispenses contraceptives.

What would these protestors say, if Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger ruled that all employees of prisons with death chambers must be willing to execute death row prisoners?

10 posted on 12/04/2005 10:09:07 AM PST by syriacus (There oughtta be a law -- that the image of every pill sold in the US is on one government website)
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To: doug from upland

The mother of Carlie Brucia (sp?), the little girl murdered in Florida, was on TV this weekend, stating that she wishes her daughter's killer could be executed IMMEDIATELY. She dreaded the fact that his death sentence would probably be delayed for years because of appeals, etc., and she wants him executed NOW.

This woman should appear at every event at which Mr. Williams' execution is discussed. People should see the rage (justified, of course) of this poor mother and the impact that a delayed/denied death sentence would have on the families of the victims. No one seems to care about their feelings in this case.


11 posted on 12/04/2005 10:19:31 AM PST by Joann37
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To: DumpsterDiver

When is this man scheduled to fry so I don't have to hear about him again?


12 posted on 12/04/2005 10:24:43 AM PST by The Cuban
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To: Joann37

It is horrific what happens to the family. In Williams' case, we hear nothing about the hopes and dreams of those he murdered. Albert Owens was a military vet. He had a wife and two kids.


13 posted on 12/04/2005 10:25:32 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: The Cuban

No frying. We use lethal injection, however, he can choose the gas chamber. Hey, I'm all for pro-choice in this case. December 13. Coincidentally, that is the day we pulled Hussein out of his spider hoe.


14 posted on 12/04/2005 10:26:46 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: The Cuban
When is this man scheduled to fry so I don't have to hear about him again?

December 13, 2005.

15 posted on 12/04/2005 10:40:08 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: doug from upland

9 days and counting.


16 posted on 12/04/2005 10:50:37 AM PST by stbdside
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To: doug from upland
Just do it.
17 posted on 12/04/2005 10:51:29 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When the First Amendment was written dueling was common and legal. Think about it.)
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To: doug from upland

I had an idea for a swell children's book.

Once upon a time in a land far, far away there was a very bad man named Tookie. He was a very bad man. He killed four people and maybe many more. He was sent to jail and later executed for what he had done. And everyone lived happily ever after. THE END.


18 posted on 12/04/2005 10:57:01 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: doug from upland

If this man gets clemency and doesn't need to hide behind "good behavior" for the rest of his life, just watch the jailhouse murder contracts issue from his cell.


19 posted on 12/04/2005 11:18:48 AM PST by tertiary01
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To: doug from upland
So unlike the tshirts reading "Fry Mumia", the T's will read "Stick Tookie"
20 posted on 12/04/2005 11:23:33 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Franks in '08)
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To: bert

I think the t-shirts should say THE JOURNEY ON THE GURNEY.


21 posted on 12/04/2005 11:45:17 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: DumpsterDiver
[His supporters] contend Williams, who is black, was convicted by a jury without any black jurors on circumstantial evidence and questionable testimony by jailhouse informants.

Williams' supporters, with help of the media (who could check the facts), continue to perpetuate this myth.

Juror #12, William James McLurkin, was a Black man. His death certificate lists his race as Black. Juror #1, Larry Sabala, has provided a sworn affidavit which confirms that one of the jurors was Black. According to Mr. Sabala, “one of the jurors who served with me was a Black man. It was obvious to everyone that he was a Black man.”

The most bizarre part of the lie about McLurkin's presence on the jury has been the statement of Williams' attorney (and I wish I could find the exact quote), saying that McLurkin was light-skinned and looked like a Filipino and therefore didn't count as a Black man.

It is true and (and in most cases) shameful that there is a history and a present practice of prosecutors using discretionary strikes to try to remove all Black jurors from juries where Black defendants are on trial, or where the death penalty is being sought (there are other theories where women or people with certain occupations, like social workers, are also struck from juries).

However, when did "a jury of your peers" mean not only a bundle of jurors of the race of your choosing, but in the case of Blacks, a degree of Blackness of skin tone as well? Am I entitled to a jury of stocky white guys who are bald and hairy-backed?

22 posted on 12/04/2005 12:55:29 PM PST by Scoutmaster
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To: doug from upland
I wounder home many vigilers have had a family member killed by these gang pukes?

Probably none...
23 posted on 12/04/2005 1:00:51 PM PST by ezoeni
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To: doug from upland

And he and his accomplices murdered what four people for which he was convicted for about Two Hundred, fifty dollars in cash. Is that four lives are worth $250. Why are all these people authoring articles saying the evidence was circumstancial? I mean they had gun evidence and even hand written notes authored by the Mr. Wms himself admitting as such.

If Arnold S. grants clemency, he can forget getting reelected.


24 posted on 12/04/2005 1:06:22 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

The written notes, verified by handwriting experts, were his notes written in jail about his plan for escape. It included murdering two guards and blowing up a bus.


25 posted on 12/04/2005 4:53:03 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: doug from upland
In most of these Tookie stories mention is made of Mike Farrell, "actor" as among Williams' supporters. Wouldn't it better be written as "former actor" or "retired actor"? Or have I missed any current acting roles that Mr. Farrell has had?

By the way, one expects ol' Ed Asner to show up at these rallies. Is he still with us?

26 posted on 12/04/2005 4:57:12 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

I don't know what Farrell does these days. Yes, Assner is still with us.


27 posted on 12/04/2005 5:01:36 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: doug from upland
The murderer-loving crowd is so doting. Where's the candlelight vigil for Albert Owens, Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shai Yang and Ye Chen Lin - all of whose lives Tookie Williams took. I don't see any one remonstrating for their memory.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

28 posted on 12/04/2005 5:06:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: marajade
There was a guy in Long Beach just back in the news who murdered a man over a $13 bicycle. Amazing it takes so little to set some people off.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

29 posted on 12/04/2005 5:08:29 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: doug from upland

Candlelight Vigil Today for Williams


-----I would attend one for the victims. Any movie stars having one for them?

***The flame from the candles are a nice touch for Tookie. I hear it gets mighty hot in the depths of hell where he will be for eternity.


30 posted on 12/04/2005 5:10:34 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: WasDougsLamb

Well, we did to get John and Ken to hold one.


31 posted on 12/04/2005 5:25:17 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: doug from upland

Good post DFU. Has anyone here posited the theory that a reason for wealthy blacks to come forward to ask for clemency, in the face of the obvious evidence Tookie is guilty of multiple murder, is that they were threatened by Crips?

Crips will kill for kicks, so a threat from them is quite credible.

Were Snoop Dog and Jamie Fox threatened with violence by Tookies homies?

If so, I'll give 'em a pass on grounds of street survival, but the limo-liberals like Mike Farrel have no excuse.


32 posted on 12/04/2005 5:30:14 PM PST by moodyskeptic (the counterculture votes R)
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To: moodyskeptic

I doubt that Snoop Dog**it or Foxx were threatened. They are just fighting against whitey.


33 posted on 12/04/2005 5:32:01 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: doug from upland
Answer: Not much. Mike Farrell on IMDb.
34 posted on 12/04/2005 5:32:51 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: tertiary01
"If this man gets clemency and doesn't need to hide behind "good behavior" for the rest of his life, just watch the jail house murder contracts issue from his cell"

Yep, that bears repeating-something that must be considered. The efn useless worthless media is not telling the whole story about "Tookie". Oh, they mention the celebrities and the children's books and Noble Prizes.

They don't mention that he has never admitted to killing the victims, or the brutal nature of his killings- they don't mention his violent history behind bars, of attacking other inmates, guards, and possibly continuing gang activity, and that he refused to cooperate with police - he didn't want to be a snitch on his gang members.

Most of the media don't even mention that "Tookie" committed any crime. They never mention why he is on death row. They don't mention that his appeals have been turned down- why they were turned down. They(media) are trying to stir up a riot.

I hope Arnold considers this case carefully.

35 posted on 12/04/2005 5:33:34 PM PST by Pajamajan (Benedict Arnold and John Murtha both served in the US military.)
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To: Pajamajan

Add Tim McVeigh to your tagline.


36 posted on 12/04/2005 5:34:59 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: doug from upland

But he's a changed man and anti gang and peace activists. Yeah right.


37 posted on 12/04/2005 5:41:45 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: moodyskeptic; doug from upland

and how many crimes did he commit that weren't solved or charged by prosecutors before the murders? That's what I would really like to know.


38 posted on 12/04/2005 5:43:07 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Where's Whorealdo?


39 posted on 12/04/2005 5:43:13 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (It must suck being an Islamofascist....... they don't get Christmas presents.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Where's Whorealdo?

In Al Capone's vault.

40 posted on 12/04/2005 5:45:27 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: OldPossum
It amazes me how quick people like Assner and Farrel are to defend the life of a convicted murderer BUT they have never advocated saving an innocent baby from a late term abortion? Hypocrites.........
41 posted on 12/04/2005 6:08:08 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: doug from upland

Done.


42 posted on 12/04/2005 6:20:47 PM PST by Pajamajan (Benedict Arnold, Tim Mc Veigh and John Murtha all served in the US military.)
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To: Pajamajan

Good tagline.


43 posted on 12/04/2005 6:24:42 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: doug from upland

I just lit up my Sunday evening cigar with my torch lighter.

Does that mean I have participated in the vigil?

I'm hoping to enjoy another cigar/torchlight vigil after this dog-rocket tookie thing gets wasted on the 13th.


44 posted on 12/04/2005 7:45:02 PM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: jaguaretype

That probably counts.


45 posted on 12/04/2005 8:13:30 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: AmishDude
Answer: Not much. Mike Farrell on IMDb.

Wow, I can't believe I missed this film! The Crooked E: The Unshredded Truth About Enron. Maybe it's out on video?

46 posted on 12/05/2005 4:23:39 AM PST by Saint Reagan
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To: doug from upland
While investigating the DU website I found something there that was very helpful.

They supplied the email form to personally request that Governor Schwartzenegger commute Poopie's sentence of death.

I used the form to request that the governor ignore any impulse to commute this animal's sentence!

47 posted on 12/05/2005 6:00:40 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English press one. Only in America!)
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To: doug from upland

Thinking straight about the likes of Tookie Williams


48 posted on 12/05/2005 8:58:13 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

Thanks for sharing your link and your thoughts. Justice is served is this man is executed. The lesson to the kids will be clear --- a life of gang banging and killing means that you will end up like Tookie.


49 posted on 12/05/2005 9:30:29 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: doug from upland

That's actually a really good point. It'd be a pretty effective epilogue to the next edition of his book, wouldn't it?

Dan


50 posted on 12/05/2005 9:37:54 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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