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Posted on 12/04/2005 7:07:16 PM PST by rface
I would take them at their word. They prefer gays to our military. Fair enough. Not taking fed money has nothing to do with Freedom of Speach or Association.
I'm not really sure what the "Ivy League" stands for anymore, it seems to be sliding and sliding. Another 20 years it will just mean "weird leftist propagandist".
Harvard has already done plenty of damage to their reputation by knuckling under to feminists rather than defend the truth of male intellectual superiority (at the far end of the performance scale - not fishing for an argument girls - it is beyond discussion).
Now they want to knuckle to gays. What exactly do they stand for?
This should be a slam dunk. Harvard can do whatever they want, however they are not entitled to Federal funds if they act contrary to Government policy. Not getting Federal funds doesn't restrict your freedom of speech. Harvard simply has the opportunity to put its money where it's values are.
Don't recruiters have any 1st amendment rights?
Its not the gay pledge that is the problem.The CIA doesn't want military recruiters on their turf. Harvard is the CIA's frat house.
Let's not forget their recent attempts to install "speech codes."
Not that I think about it, it's hilarious that they're trying this stunt. Not too long ago their adminstration was arguing that they should be able to punish those who used "incendiary and hateful speech."
So there you go. Now Harvard is trying to say that it should still be entitled to government money based on their right to free speech.
In other words, freedom of speech only applies when the right thing is said, namely, how Harvard decides to define it for the day.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/11/24/harvard.speech.ap/
We all know that their real agenda is to have the US be defeated in the War on terrorism.
Priceless
It the colleges win versus the Secretary of Defense!!! then you all can start the countdown of the return of Jesus Christ--because the World has gone to HELL in a hand basket.
I am not a lawyer, but I am telling you----when the Military loses this fight, then end the discussion of what a free country we are.
End of soapbox.
If private businesses can recruit on campus there is no reason why the military can't. I've made a career of the military and it has been wonderful. If the students don't want the military around then why don't they just not talk to the recruiters? Why ban recruiters when there are some who want to join. After all a big chunk of student loans can be paid off by Uncle Sam.
It's obvious for us, but not for the commies from Harvard...
I don't know why the court even took this case. The law is well settled that nobody is entitled to federal funding of abortions or education, i.e. if you don't register for the draft you don't get a student loan.
My guess is that there are too many Harvard and Yale grads clerking this year.
For a more balanced article, see:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1206/p03s01-usju.html
I really don't think they know how far they have fallen. It's really a shame.
What schools are there to replace these homes of lunacy?
I was never comfortable there myself - as an engineer in a school with no engineers, but a bunch of full of themselves liberal arts types - but still there was some sense that they were respectable, even if soft. Now they aren't respectable, and other people will know.
What does it mean now when someone says "I went to Harvard"? Where can smart kids go to get an education, rather than an indoctrination?
For those students who wish to speak with a recruiter, it's not fair to make them go somewhere ELSE to talk to them. They aren't there to draft.
Gag orders need to be issued on this... schools, private or not, must learn to deal with it.
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