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Intelligent designís long march to nowhere
Science & Theology News ^ | 05 December 2005 | Karl Giberson

Posted on 12/05/2005 4:06:56 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: Rudder
Should we just let anyone do science or surgery or rocket design? And why wait all those years plodding through high school and college, just to satisfy some smart elitist?

Nah, there a (sic) damned good reason that (sic) those pursuing such professions are intellectually endowed.

Evidently that endowment does not include facility in written English. Perhaps such skills are reserved for the ignorant unwashed masses.

141 posted on 12/05/2005 8:29:01 AM PST by catpuppy
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Who is Charles Krauthammer?"

Google is your friend.
142 posted on 12/05/2005 8:29:52 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: catpuppy
>Should we just let anyone do science or surgery or rocket design? And why wait all those years plodding through high school and college, just to satisfy some smart elitist?

>Nah, there a (sic) damned good reason that (sic) those pursuing such professions are intellectually endowed.

Evidently that endowment does not include facility in written English. Perhaps such skills are reserved for the ignorant unwashed masses.

Congratulations. You've done a nice job of making a strawman argument over grammatical errors in order to dodge the content of the argument. I guess that makes you the elitist.

143 posted on 12/05/2005 8:34:46 AM PST by Antonello
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To: pby
Darwin was a doctor with a completed medical degree?

I don't believe he ever received a medical degree even though he was commissioned as the ships after there was some problem with the original ships physician. He did attend medical school at 16 for two years but did not like the subject matter and it is not clear if he received any certification. He later received certification or a degree in theology. His advance study was Botany but a degree was not offered at the time.
144 posted on 12/05/2005 8:35:58 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Snowbelt Man
i don't presume that homosexuality is genetic. in fact, like all other behavior, i believe that it's chosen.

I was speaking hypothetically, to answer his question. Thought I had made that clear.

thanks for the explanation. it seems this recessive trait is becoming more and more prevalent - at least in post Christian europe and america.

I'm pretty sure that the percentages are about the same historically. More likely, what you see as an increase is a combination of increased access to media for all types of people via the Internet and the fact that people just feel less compelled to keep it to themselves.

145 posted on 12/05/2005 8:37:20 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Rudder
Ping to Rudder since I stepped in on your discussion.
146 posted on 12/05/2005 8:38:51 AM PST by Antonello
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To: JeffAtlanta

just a question that puzzled me since those who say that homosexuality is genetic and not a behavior choice are also usually strong evolutionists. it would seem to me that this gene would be getting less prevalent not more prevalent as the human species continues to evolve but apparently that's not necessarily the case. hopefully, it won't continue to multiple to such an extent that the whole human race is homosexual - although that would solve the "population explosion" problem and alleviate the need for so many abortions.


147 posted on 12/05/2005 8:39:06 AM PST by Snowbelt Man (ideas have consequences)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

JMHO: One of the current premiere Conservative thinkers and editorialists in the USA and a member of the FOX opinion team/roundtable almost every night in prime-time.

BTW....................GOOGLE is your friend.

148 posted on 12/05/2005 8:39:13 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: jwalsh07
Sorry, no "canceling" after junior high.

Students are usually taught by their teachers to "cancel" things, and they forget the actual mathematical operation they're doing. Couple that with being so used to playing with variables, forgetting they stand for actual (oops, almost said "real") numbers, and most people fall for this joke.

Speaking of "real," more geek humor: "God is real, unless declared integer."

20 points to any old-timers who get that one.

149 posted on 12/05/2005 8:41:54 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Snowbelt Man

Whatever genetic component homosexuality has, the expression of it has changed quite a bit just in historical times. It's not an all or nothing proposition. There is no reason someone with homosexual proclivities can't have children. They can have heterosexual sex to procreate, and on the side have homosexual sex. It's almost never been 100% one way.


150 posted on 12/05/2005 8:45:21 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Doing science takes knowledge and practice.

I would agree that generally doing "good" science requires knowledge and practice. But would you not agree that at least some important scientific work has been accomplished by persons who had little formal "scientific" training?

151 posted on 12/05/2005 8:45:53 AM PST by catpuppy
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To: Antonello
Yeah, thanks.

That discussion was over a long time ago

153 posted on 12/05/2005 8:47:54 AM PST by Rudder
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To: oblomov
What's wrong with being elitist?

I'd rather be elite.

154 posted on 12/05/2005 8:49:44 AM PST by catpuppy
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To: Antonello
I guess that makes you the elitist.

Well done! It's nice to hear from a critic.

155 posted on 12/05/2005 8:51:22 AM PST by catpuppy
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To: Javelina
Sorry, you lost.

I accept the defeat and promise to try harder next time.

156 posted on 12/05/2005 8:52:35 AM PST by catpuppy
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To: bobdsmith
The vast majority of nucleotide combinations are no-results.

I wonder about that. I've read of an observed mutation that enables metabolism of nylon. It is a frame shift mutation which means that the resulting protein is essentially random. Also, I am continually amazed by the amount of difference between the codes for functionally similar proteins between species. It seems to me that the genome is vastly more plastic wrt functionality than is usually portrayed.

157 posted on 12/05/2005 8:56:37 AM PST by edsheppa
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To: Doctor Stochastic
nor to advise George Bush how to set the flaps on an F-16.)

In that case, you're on closer to equal terms, since he's probably never been in one either. Now ask him about an F-102...

159 posted on 12/05/2005 9:00:08 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

16/64=1/4 by cancellation of the 6's.


160 posted on 12/05/2005 9:04:36 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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