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Russia to Sell $1B Worth of Weapons to Iran
Contender Ministries ^ | Dec 3rd, 2005 | Jennifer Rast

Posted on 12/05/2005 3:48:12 PM PST by laney

Events in the Middle East are starting to sound an awful lot like a lead up to the war of Gog and Magog prophesied in the Bible. If you’ve read the article about this on our site, you know that a possible player in that war is Russia, who will form an alliance with Islamic countries to attack Israel.

If Israel does what it recently promised to do and attacks Iran before it can get Nuclear weapons, it’s not hard to imagine Russian weapons being used by the coalition nations mentioned in Ezekiel 38 to launch an attack on Israel. However, some interpretations of this prophecy include Iraq in the coalition of nations, which would rule out the war of Gog and Magog starting any time soon. Whether this is a build up to a fulfillment of Ezekiel 38 or not, Iran’s nuclear program may lead to violence between nations that will change the politics and the landscape of the Middle East forever.

The long range missiles Russia is giving Iran should definitely be of concern to all of us. Unfortunately, I don’t expect the EU or the U.S. to have the political will to do anything about it - anything more than make idle threats and draft resolutions, that is. It’s probably up to Israel to protect itself, at least initially.

Russia has agreed to sell more than $1 billion worth of missiles and other defense systems to Iran, Russian news media reported Friday, a move expected to draw a heated reaction from the United States.

The Interfax and ITAR-Tass news agencies cited unidentified sources in the Russian military-industrial complex as saying that Russian and Iranian officials had signed contracts in November that would send up to 30 Tor-M1 missile systems to Iran over the next two years.

Interfax said the Tor-M1 system could identify up to 48 targets and fire at two targets simultaneously at a height of up to 20,000 feet.

The news agency quoted its source as saying the two countries had reached a deal on modernizing Iran’s air force inventory, as well.

A tip for the Iranians: Israel wins. Whether God miraculously protects them, as has happened in other Islamic/Israeli wars, or the Russian weapons function about as well as they did in Afghanistan, Israel wins.

A tip for Russia: It probably wasn’t the smartest thing for Putin to give weapons to the friends of his enemy in Chechnya. The same Jihadist groups that are waging Jihad from Iran, with the full support of the Mullahs, are killing school children in Chechnya. Does Putin really believe Iran would hesitate for a second to give the Chechnyan rebels what they need to win a victory for Islam?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: armsales; axisofevil; bayside; china; coldwar2; communism; ezekiel38; fatima; iran; iraq; kgb; middleeast; missiles; nostradamus; putin; redchina; reddawn; russia; sco; sovietunion; syria; ussr; worldwariii
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1 posted on 12/05/2005 3:48:13 PM PST by laney
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To: laney

Putin ! wake the hell up now dude.....
Fool


2 posted on 12/05/2005 3:50:31 PM PST by injin
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To: laney

Thanks for posting.


3 posted on 12/05/2005 3:50:54 PM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: laney

It figures. Ivan will do ANYTHING for a dollar, just like Clinton. Both crooked and care nothing abuot the consequences of their actions. Amazing similarity.


4 posted on 12/05/2005 3:50:56 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: laney

Nothing but expensive targets for our Boys.
The time is almost here


5 posted on 12/05/2005 3:51:55 PM PST by Roverman2K
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To: laney

Putin, is feeding the alligator, hoping not to be eaten last.


6 posted on 12/05/2005 3:52:13 PM PST by mosquewatch.com
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To: laney
Defensive weapons make sense. What would be more worth defending than nuclear weapon facilities? Iran is making a lot of money selling oil, and investing this in nuclear weapons is an option, but what on earth are they trying to do?

Even if they incinerate Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, they can't destroy Israel. Tilting at windmills would be more to the point.

7 posted on 12/05/2005 3:52:55 PM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: EagleUSA

Reminds me of Chruchev: "The Capitalist will sell us the rope with which we hang them."

These words will echo when the Chenyians nuke Moscow.


8 posted on 12/05/2005 3:53:28 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: laney
What will be the last thing the Russian leadership thinks about as those missiles are fired at them after the Iranians no longer have a use for the Russians?
9 posted on 12/05/2005 3:54:35 PM PST by msnimje (Everyday there is a new example of the Democrats "Culture of Dementia")
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To: BipolarBob

:)....


10 posted on 12/05/2005 3:54:43 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: injin
Putin ! wake the hell up now dude..... Fool

He is no fool. Putin will provoke the US into a major war with Iran; perhaps even a nuclear war, and then use that as a mechanism for pulling together a reunited Soviet Union. It is not like the pansies in the EU will be doing anything to make its Eastern associates feel militarily secure. To feel secure they are going to have to rejoin Russia and follow Putin's lead.
11 posted on 12/05/2005 3:55:34 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: RightWhale

For any Moose country to toss a nuke on Israel would make all Moosedom positively frenzied with glee. Then would the world finally gag and say it's had enough?


12 posted on 12/05/2005 3:55:41 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: laney

Russian weapons systems, buy all you want boys.

Since you have such excellant knowledge of weapons systems, I have located a large number of AMC Pacers which when properly equipted make excellant amored personnel carriers. Their kill ration is second only to the Ford Pinto.


13 posted on 12/05/2005 3:57:19 PM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: laney

Iran isn't going anywhere. To the west are its enemies the US and Iraq. To its east are its enemies the US and Afghanistan. To the north and south are the seas. It may launch a few missiles, but it will never seize territory as long as the US is in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's pretty much boxed in, and there's little need for a US invasion of any kind.


14 posted on 12/05/2005 3:58:06 PM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: The Red Zone

They might clap their hands in glee and ululate until dawn, but the dawn won't be the sun coming up: something bright and hot, but not the sun.


15 posted on 12/05/2005 3:58:21 PM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: ARCADIA

I think Putin is the Anti-Christ he to me, is a Sheep in Wolves Clothing...


16 posted on 12/05/2005 3:58:49 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: GarySpFc

Ping to my friend Gary!


17 posted on 12/05/2005 3:59:40 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: laney

Actually, I think he's ten lbs in a five lb bag


18 posted on 12/05/2005 3:59:41 PM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: gotribe

"and there's little need for a US invasion of any kind."

Until it has its nukes ready for provision to every terrorist group known to man, for shipboard delivery to New York, Chicago (up the MS), San Diego, Houston, London, and points east.


19 posted on 12/05/2005 4:00:44 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: laney

I would be a lot more concerned about what sneaks into Iran from our good pals in China.


20 posted on 12/05/2005 4:00:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: cripplecreek

Excellent Point! Looks like everyday we can see what ultimatley will be World War 111 no doubt about it.


21 posted on 12/05/2005 4:02:44 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: laney

What is to stop Iran from exporting Suitcase-Nukes--once they develop them, of course--the same way they currently export terror. Iran will turn on its allies as soon as its convenient for them.


22 posted on 12/05/2005 4:03:28 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: laney
Next time Poot-in cries about a muzzie terror attack in Moscow or Chechnya..
23 posted on 12/05/2005 4:03:55 PM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: laney

Damn. Stupid is as stupid does.


24 posted on 12/05/2005 4:11:47 PM PST by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: MeanWestTexan; cripplecreek; All

Definition:
Ezekiel 38 is the classic text used by many to prove a World War III or Armageddon-like invasion of Israel. WW III may actually be an engagement prior to the Tribulation Week involving an incident between the U.S. and the Arabs, followed by the neutralizing of the U.S.A. by Chinese and Russian missiles. However, Ezekiel 38 describes how the Russian-Arab alliance will be destroyed by "an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone" (Ezekiel 38:22) 30 days prior to the Middle of the Week.


25 posted on 12/05/2005 4:12:28 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: Dallas59
Iran isn't going anywhere. To the west are its enemies the US and Iraq. To its east are its enemies the US and Afghanistan. To the north and south are the seas. It may launch a few missiles, but it will never seize territory as long as the US is in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's pretty much boxed in, and there's little need for a US invasion of any kind.

A)So you want the US to allow Iran,and their nuclear program, to fester like the malignant cancer that it is. This is a country, that for the past 25 years has had an Anti-America day. They will destroy the US at the first opportunity they have.

B) Who says their only interest is a land grab? There is credebile evidence to suggest they can use ICBMs against the US. Or like I said earlier they might develop suitcase-nukes which could devestate the US.

C)With the aid of Russian tech, any military action will be that much more difficult.

26 posted on 12/05/2005 4:13:59 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: ozoneliar

The passage of Ezekiel 38 is one of the most, specific, spectacular, and most fearsome prophecies in of the Old Testament. As Americans, we should take note that God clearly states in this fearsome prophecy, that "I will send fire to Magog - to those living undisturbed on the islands - and they will learn that I am the Lord. I have spoken! I am going to see that my holy name is known among my people Israel, and I will no longer allow my my holy name to be profaned; the nations shall learn that I am the Lord, holy in Israel." (Ezek 39:6)


27 posted on 12/05/2005 4:15:23 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: laney
The passage of Ezekiel 38 is one of the most, specific, spectacular, and most fearsome prophecies in of the Old Testament. As Americans, we should take note that God clearly states in this fearsome prophecy, that "I will send fire to Magog - to those living undisturbed on the islands - and they will learn that I am the Lord. I have spoken! I am going to see that my holy name is known among my people Israel, and I will no longer allow my my holy name to be profaned; the nations shall learn that I am the Lord, holy in Israel." (Ezek 39:6)

Phrophecy, especially since there are disputes as to what they refer to, should not be relied upon as an excuse not protect national security.

28 posted on 12/05/2005 4:20:46 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: ozoneliar

No of course not but we should be *aware* so that we have an idea overall what is happening in the world and the outcome.


29 posted on 12/05/2005 4:23:00 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: laney

Putin had already told Bush about this during their recent meeting in Russia, What's up?

Give the Iranians lots of false confidence. They will put their new toys all around their nuclear facilities, making it much easier to locate them accurately . Their heat signatures will be photographed from orbit intelsats.

These toys won't make any difference, except provide clusters of targets for our forces , like on a shooting range. What Russia has sold Iran are targets, not weapons.

The Russians? They are still smarting from losing all the money on their oil exploration options when Iraq fell and now , what do you think any chances of retrieving the oil option money from Iraq? Zero. The Ruskies just waved goodbye to millions of bucks , just as the French and Germans have.

Things will now get very hot along the Iraq/Iran border
and if the Iranians bunch up like they usually do, its tach air time.


30 posted on 12/05/2005 4:24:11 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: laney
I wonder if that's what Bush saw when he looked into his soul or what the heck ever. Never trust the KGB.
31 posted on 12/05/2005 4:24:22 PM PST by Burf (I didnt leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me.)
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To: ozoneliar

Geopolitics is a messy business. What looks like a slap in our face may be more of a stab in the back of Iran.


32 posted on 12/05/2005 4:24:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: gotribe

Going into Iraq was 2 fold, number # 1 to get rid of a dictator threat of Saddam, and 2nd ? to sit and wait in what Iran will do.....


33 posted on 12/05/2005 4:30:02 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: laney

Oh sure, people always ask- where is the U.S. in the Bible? The scary truth is, we might not be anywhere- taken out by the time these end things start in motion. I've heard it said "those that dwell in safety ont eh coastlands", too. So some people have speculated about a sub nuke strike from the coasts. When I was a kid, we always heard about the 8 minutes it would take to get an ICBM from Moscow to the US. An attack from the coasts, would take about what, 30 seconds? Spooky stuff. Plus, they've been playing around with missles that can pass through our missle shield. With friends like them...


34 posted on 12/05/2005 4:31:44 PM PST by emiller
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To: ozoneliar
Whos to say, that they ( IRAN MULLAHS ) won't sneak some suitcase nukes into both the USA and Russia ? or even China... just to get the real powers to get into a nuke war.
35 posted on 12/05/2005 4:33:45 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: emiller

True, we might be taken out as a nation when this all truly plays out.


36 posted on 12/05/2005 4:34:01 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: laney

The chinese are also selling high tech arms to the Iranians, and the Iranians have been invited into the Shanghai Coorperative Organization.


37 posted on 12/05/2005 4:34:05 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: laney

Also, the Chinese will be involved in any sort of war the Russians have in the Middle East (Chinese Manpower)


38 posted on 12/05/2005 4:34:34 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

And with all this going on what can the USA truly do but just be sitting ducks...We can't be everywhere in the world.


39 posted on 12/05/2005 4:36:07 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: laney

I still think that they will come our way before fighting Israel. They (Russia/CIS and China) are arming Chavez, Castro, and other communist thugs in our own hemisphere to the teeth, and they have the Panama Canal.


40 posted on 12/05/2005 4:37:42 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Nuclear attack followed by ground invasion may be possible under this scenario.


41 posted on 12/05/2005 4:38:33 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: laney

Some people say that the Chechnya war was sparked by the Russians to whip up Nationalist and Communist support for the Kremlin.


42 posted on 12/05/2005 4:39:19 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

I still think they have sinister motives and should not be trusted.


43 posted on 12/05/2005 4:40:03 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: laney
And with all this going on what can the USA truly do but just be sitting ducks...We can't be everywhere in the world.

Well, at the very least we can publicly take a more proactive stance against Iran. Like officially denouncing this sale. Or we could just take Iran.

44 posted on 12/05/2005 4:40:42 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: ozoneliar

IRAQ takes most of our time..IRAN is on the back burner and I am sure they are taking full advantage knowing that.


45 posted on 12/05/2005 4:42:46 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: laney

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1534403/posts

U.S. Army report: Israel can't stop Iran nukes


46 posted on 12/05/2005 5:48:52 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: laney

Geez, Putin. What are you doing?

(With friends like that, who needs enemas?)

Bones


47 posted on 12/05/2005 6:38:49 PM PST by Bones75
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To: ARCADIA

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He is no fool. Putin will provoke the US into a major war with Iran"

There can be no major war with Iran. Iran is mush weaker than Iraq was. They would just be a bump in the highway. For that mater, Israel wouldn't even need our help.


48 posted on 12/05/2005 6:51:21 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: Burf

As an aside, I mention in passing that Ivanov met with Singh > a good move on Ivanov's part.


49 posted on 12/05/2005 10:04:21 PM PST by Bald Eagle777 (1) Honor God. 2) Honor your parents. 3) anti-Christian Secularism in the West has to "go")
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To: F15Eagle; Esther Ruth; Salem; Ashamed Canadian; agrace; RoadTest
"Events in the Middle East are starting to sound an awful lot like a lead up to the war of Gog and Magog prophesied in the Bible."

Ping!
50 posted on 12/06/2005 5:20:57 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (Not a nickel, not a dime, stop sending my tax money to Hamastine!)
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