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Mark Steyn: What planet are the eco-cultists on?
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12/6/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/05/2005 4:54:07 PM PST by saquin

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1 posted on 12/05/2005 4:54:08 PM PST by saquin
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To: saquin


Who in their right minds would want the world to be

colder !?

It`s not about hot or cold , it`s about a means to an end.

Neo-marxist politics disguised as science.

"Do as we say or the world will end."

Yeah right.


2 posted on 12/05/2005 4:56:34 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: saquin

I can't answer that question, but the search can be cut in half if you start looking on the left side of it.


3 posted on 12/05/2005 4:57:36 PM PST by billhilly (John Murtha, ex Marine. Leading the charge of the Demoquits.)
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To: saquin

"Or, as the Canadian Press reported: "Montreal - tens of thousands of people ignored frigid temperatures Saturday to lead a worldwide day of protest against global warming."

Holy Ice Age Batman, any more global warming and we'll all freeze to death..


4 posted on 12/05/2005 5:08:30 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead 13 year old girls to prove it...)
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To: saquin

Between blogging and keeping up with the output of the prolific Mr Steyn, I'm afraid my blogging is suffering.


5 posted on 12/05/2005 5:10:50 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: saquin
But the point is, as Steven Guilbeault of Greenpeace puts it: "Global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean wetter, that's what we're dealing with." Got that? If it's hot, that's a sign of global warming, and, if it's cold, that's a sign of global warming.

lol.....the insanity of the eco-loons on full display.

6 posted on 12/05/2005 5:12:03 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: saquin
Steyn is the greatest.

Kyoto is dying on the vine, look for a resurrection of the coming ice age or some other nonsense to justify grants for tenured retard communist doctorate's.
7 posted on 12/05/2005 5:13:51 PM PST by mmercier (die thou unheard, tears unshed)
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To: saquin
I sure do love to read Mark Steyn.
8 posted on 12/05/2005 5:14:14 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: mmercier

Some ont recently told me we have to save the permafrost. I wondered out loud, "Why?" Wouldnt it be nice to have more trees?


9 posted on 12/05/2005 5:19:36 PM PST by Chickensoup (Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Chri)
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To: gcruse
You arent the only one bud.

Cheers,

knews hound

Latest Article "Cutting them off at the knees"

10 posted on 12/05/2005 5:21:24 PM PST by knews_hound (i know my typing sucks, i do it one handed ! (caps are especially tough))
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To: Mr. Mojo

My liberal friends wallow in ignorance. Here's the question: Do I share these facts with them in order to enlighten them, and perhaps convert them, or is that a wan hope since they love their ignorance, which is compatible with their hallucinogenic worldview? Alas, I fear, the latter. So I probably won't bother.


11 posted on 12/05/2005 5:30:24 PM PST by Rsgood Dsbad
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To: Mr. Mojo
But the point is, as Steven Guilbeault of Greenpeace puts it: "Global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean wetter, that's what we're dealing with." Got that? If it's hot, that's a sign of global warming, and, if it's cold, that's a sign of global warming.

So, let me see if I got this straight. Anywhere in the world where weather occurs is caused by global warming, is that it?
12 posted on 12/05/2005 5:37:42 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

"Neo-marxist politics disguised as science."

Exactly!


13 posted on 12/05/2005 6:08:27 PM PST by jocon307
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To: saquin; Pokey78
Ya think the eco nuts will ever figure out that all the previous ice ages and tropical periods came about without human intervention?

I think libs honestly have a God complex, they think that everything is a direct result of human action.

When the ice age or tropical warming does occur, I know I'll have heat and AC.

Pokey...Steyn ping!
14 posted on 12/05/2005 6:10:40 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Eco-kook portable shelter for upcoming ice age caused by global warming.......


15 posted on 12/05/2005 6:18:50 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: saquin

As of the early to mid 1980s, the junk science believers thought we'd be seeing major climate changes indicating "severe Global Warming" by the mid to late 1990s. Didn't happen. Almost 10 years after that, still hasn't happened. If anything, the perfectly normal slow cooling that will inevitably move us from the current interglacial back into full continental ice mode may be knocking on the door. And nothing man has ever done, or could realistically do any time soon, can change that.


16 posted on 12/05/2005 6:31:53 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: mmercier

More accurately, we are within an interglacial period within an overall ice age. At some point, the ice will return. And "global warming" or "CO2 levels" have nothing to do with it. Continental configuration, solar output and axis wobble are thought to be the main drivers. We are only dust in the wind.


17 posted on 12/05/2005 6:33:38 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: knews_hound

A good article and a promising-looking blog.


18 posted on 12/05/2005 8:32:49 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: DustyMoment
So, let me see if I got this straight. Anywhere in the world where weather occurs is caused by global warming, is that it?

Yes, but if it doesn't occur...

...global warming...

19 posted on 12/05/2005 8:51:06 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Para-Ord.45
"Neo-marxist politics disguised as science."

That about sums it up. One of Europe's attempts to hamstring the US foiled. Notice how they can't even meet the terms of the treaty? They had no intention of honoring it.

20 posted on 12/05/2005 8:58:47 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: gcruse

Thanks


21 posted on 12/05/2005 9:16:09 PM PST by knews_hound (i know my typing sucks, i do it one handed ! (caps are especially tough))
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To: saquin
Wrong Again

The continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population. -- Reid Bryson, "Global Ecology; Readings towards a rational strategy for Man", (1971)

The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer -- Paul Ehrlich - The Population Bomb (1968)

I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000 -- Paul Ehrlich in (1969)

In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish. -- Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)

Before 1985, mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity . . . in which the accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion -- Paul Ehrlich in (1976)

This [cooling] trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century -- Peter Gwynne, Newsweek 1976

There are ominous signs that the earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production - with serious political implications for just about every nation on earth. The drop in food production could begin quite soon... The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologist are hard-pressed to keep up with it. -- Newsweek, April 28, (1975)

This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000. -- Lowell Ponte "The Cooling", 1976

If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age. -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day (1970)
22 posted on 12/05/2005 9:28:14 PM PST by John Lenin (Is it safe ?)
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To: Billthedrill

LOLOL!!!!


23 posted on 12/06/2005 5:04:15 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: John Lenin

Nice assembly of nonsensical predictions, but I failed to detect a point. Care to elucidate?


24 posted on 12/06/2005 5:11:30 AM PST by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: John Lenin

And they keep making these dire predictions, on and on.


25 posted on 12/06/2005 5:20:02 AM PST by Pusterfuss (Proud member: Minnesotans for Global Warming)
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To: mylife; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...
Thanks!

Steyn ping!


26 posted on 12/06/2005 5:22:23 AM PST by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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To: saquin

It's about 20 degrees here in Central Texas, I wish this warming would come on already.


27 posted on 12/06/2005 5:26:35 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: saquin
Coalition of the emitting.

The Western Left has regressed since the days of Karl Marx. He wouldn't recognize his descendents. For he believed the key to ending human alienation and the absence of self-mastery produced by capitalism was to speed up the growth of technology and science. Over the long run, it would remove the soulessness of human existence and bring man to fulfillment of his true nature qua man. My alienation ceases when I cease oppressing others and experience my own happiness and my love. But that's not the message of the Left today: they seem to embrace alienation, oppression and hate as the highest good. If it means getting rid of the benefits of civilization, so much the better. Where Marx wanted a better life for all, today's Left seems content to seek an existence rooted in the lowest common denominator. Where the Left once spoke of a world uplifted by the faith of man and his works, today it depicts humanity as the essential negation of the natural world. Nature is greater than Man. Truly, Marx today would not recognize his children.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

28 posted on 12/06/2005 5:44:32 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: saquin
Despite signing on to Kyoto, European greenhouse gas emissions have increased since 2001, whereas America's emissions have fallen by nearly one per cent, despite the Toxic Texan's best efforts to destroy the planet.

Steyn bump...

29 posted on 12/06/2005 5:45:29 AM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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To: Pokey78
I've mentioned before the environmentalists' ceaseless fretting for the prospect of every species but their own. By the end of this century, the demographically doomed French, Italians and Spaniards will be so shrivelled in number they may have too few environmentalists to man their local Greenpeace office. Is that part of the plan? To create a habitable environment with no humans left to inhabit it?

Thanks for the ping, Pokey!

30 posted on 12/06/2005 5:46:39 AM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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To: jocon307
Its not Marxism; it neo-Ludditism and Utopianism. It does not even correspond to a scientific outlook on the world. The eco-Left are for lack of a better term, a modern cargo cult. Their beliefs are not empirically falsifiable. And this worship of Nature is just as irrational as the worship of heavenly deities that repelled the 19th Century's leading thinkers. For their beliefs are quite simply an anthromorphic projection of human qualities, not onto gods but onto Nature.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

31 posted on 12/06/2005 5:53:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pokey78

I love Steyn bump.


32 posted on 12/06/2005 5:54:34 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: MortMan

You're kidding, right?


33 posted on 12/06/2005 6:05:47 AM PST by moonhawk (Democrats are to "Diversity and Tolerance" as Islam is to "Peace.")
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To: moonhawk

No, just low on caffeine - still. Short nights and early mornings...

Ugh.


34 posted on 12/06/2005 6:10:09 AM PST by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: saquin
After that, they'd be reduced to huddling round the nearest fire-breathing imam for warmth.

That's why Osama bin Loser needs all those fire-breathing imams around -- to keep his cave warm during The Brutal Afghan Winter.

35 posted on 12/06/2005 6:12:08 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: Rsgood Dsbad
"hallucinogenic worldview".

That's priceless- I'll remember it.

36 posted on 12/06/2005 6:15:59 AM PST by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: saquin
"Global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean wetter, that's what we're dealing with."

It's also known as a tautology. All observations confirm the Global Warming Hypothesis with probability 1.0.

37 posted on 12/06/2005 6:23:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NY Times headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: saquin
"Or, as the Canadian Press reported: "Montreal - tens of thousands of people ignored frigid temperatures Saturday to lead a worldwide day of protest against global warming."

This sentence epitomises modern liberalism on just about every level. ("Who you gonna belive, your lying eyes or my good intentions?)

38 posted on 12/06/2005 6:25:19 AM PST by joebuck
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To: Pokey78

Steyn-induced chuckles in the morning. Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 12/06/2005 6:29:50 AM PST by prairiebreeze (I am unapologetically and enthusiastically celebrating CHRISTMAS!!)
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To: saquin; Pokey78

Bump.


40 posted on 12/06/2005 7:00:00 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping.


41 posted on 12/06/2005 7:04:55 AM PST by GOPJ (Guest Worker Programs don't reflect our values. Say "NO" to second class citizens & slavery lite.)
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To: John Lenin

On that note:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0917657012/026-0954821-7970040

"Greenhouse: It Will Happen in 1997"

This book was SOOOOO successful that I can only find it on Amazon UK - it's not even listed on Amazon US. The co-author, Donald I. Fine, changed over to writing drug store murder mysteries after this flop. Oh, and by the way, that's the late Donald I. Fine, esq, who was a classic old school upper east side lib.


42 posted on 12/06/2005 9:10:20 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the Steyn ping!!!! Great stuff!


43 posted on 12/06/2005 9:11:12 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Whoever said you can't buy love, never owned a dog.)
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings

Ping


44 posted on 12/06/2005 9:40:34 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: MortMan
but I failed to detect a point

I get the impression that even if I explained it to you you still wouldn't get it.
45 posted on 12/06/2005 10:10:34 AM PST by John Lenin (Is it safe ?)
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To: John Lenin

Sorry - I posted that before coffee, and must beg for caffeinated forgiveness!


46 posted on 12/06/2005 10:19:20 AM PST by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: saquin; Pokey78

Greenpeace would badly need to read Bjorn Lomberg.


47 posted on 12/06/2005 10:29:13 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Exactly!!!


48 posted on 12/06/2005 12:29:52 PM PST by alwaysconservative (Whoever said you can't buy love, never owned a dog.)
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To: alwaysconservative
I can't believe it, but unless I missed it, no one has said the painfully obvious:

IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!

49 posted on 12/06/2005 3:00:11 PM PST by JusPasenThru (http://giinthesky.blogspot.com)
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To: Pokey78

thanks for the ping. Steyn was quite gentle on the enviroloons this time around.


50 posted on 12/06/2005 6:04:01 PM PST by irv
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