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That incredible shrinking Advent-Christmas season (Christmas should start, not end, Dec. 25)
The Tidings ^ | Dec 1 05 | George Weigel

Posted on 12/05/2005 10:36:23 PM PST by churchillbuff

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To: DaveLoneRanger
We keep it up until after New Years.

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Slacker. We keep ours up at least until February. :)

21 posted on 12/06/2005 11:11:42 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: churchillbuff
That's how we celebrated when I was young. As a compromise with my husband who is British, we put up the tree a few days before Christmas eve, as a child we were not allowed to see the tree decorated until Christmas eve officially began.
With my children, particularly when they were younger...we celebrated everything during and after Advent, up until Candlemas. Though I have to say Martinmas with it's traditional lantern walk in November was the first inkling of the holidays, and my favorite.
My youngest is now 11... she dutifully put our her shoe last night for Sankt Niklaus to fill...and she was not disappointed.
22 posted on 12/06/2005 11:12:09 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Since the twelve days of christmas don't even begin until after christmas eve, it's always surprising to me to see trees outside along the curb the week following christmas.


23 posted on 12/06/2005 11:14:17 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: trisham

Tradition was that all vestiges of christmas were to be cleared by Candlemas, on feb 2nd. Many then took the mostly spent holiday candles and remelted them into new candles on candlemas.


24 posted on 12/06/2005 11:16:39 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya
Tradition was that all vestiges of christmas were to be cleared by Candlemas, on feb 2nd. Many then took the mostly spent holiday candles and remelted them into new candles on candlemas.

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Not everyone gets my sense of humour.

25 posted on 12/06/2005 11:17:47 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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WWJD?

26 posted on 12/06/2005 11:20:51 AM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: churchillbuff
Thanks so much for posting this. I remember learning maybe 15 years ago that the 12 days of Christmas started on Christmas and went to Epiphany. I've started putting a big Advent Wreath in our yard (since the kids want some kind of decoration). We add a "flame" each week. We do put our tree up during the week before Christmas (there's no way I could do it on Christmas Eve). I've always gotten irked to see people's Christmas trees out by their curbs on Dec. 26, since we've always left ours up until Ephiphany.

When a friend went into the Discalced Carmelite Monastery, it was then that I learned they celebrated Christmas all the way until the Presentation, so she could write to people during that time. (she can only write twice a year--Christmas Season and Easter Season).

It's gonna take a l o n g time to reverse the tide we're on as a society regarding Holy Days.

27 posted on 12/06/2005 11:24:50 AM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: greasepaint
I don't know about him being born on Tax Day, but the odds are good that he was actually born between April and June. The biggest indicator of that is the reason that Mary and Joseph were traveling...the census. A census would not have been taken midwinter when traveling was risky and food was scarce, it would not have been taken during the fall when people were harvesting, and it would not have been taken during summer when people were busy in their fields. Census taking was a disruptive activity, and would have only taken place during the break between the spring thaw and first planting, hence April-June. And yes, the climate in Israel today is very different from the climate in Jesus day...the entire country has been deforested and is warmer today than it was in Jesus time.

The origins of the December Christmas are well understood, and date back to Saturnalia and early Christian prosecution. It was the only day they could celebrate without risk of arrest or execution.
28 posted on 12/06/2005 11:27:25 AM PST by Arthalion
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

The symbolism of the Advent wreath is beautiful. The wreath is made of various evergreens, signifying continuous life. Even these evergreens have a traditional meaning which can be adapted to our faith: The laurel signifies victory over persecution and suffering; pine, holly, and yew, immortality; and cedar, strength and healing. Holly also has a special Christian symbolism: The prickly leaves remind us of the crown of thorns, and one English legend tells of how the cross was made of holly. The circle of the wreath, which has no beginning or end, symbolizes the eternity of God, the immortality of the soul, and the everlasting life found in Christ. Any pine cones, nuts, or seedpods used to decorate the wreath also symbolize life and resurrection. All together, the wreath of evergreens depicts the immortality of our soul and the new, everlasting life promised to us through Christ, the eternal Word of the Father, who entered our world becoming true man and who was victorious over sin and death through His own passion, death, and resurrection.

The four candles represent the four weeks of Advent. A tradition is that each week represents one thousand years, to sum to the 4,000 years from Adam and Eve until the Birth of the Savior. Three candles are purple and one is rose. The purple candles in particular symbolize the prayer, penance, and preparatory sacrifices and goods works undertaken at this time. The rose candle is lit on the third Sunday, Gaudete Sunday, when the priest also wears rose vestments at Mass; Gaudete Sunday is the Sunday of rejoicing, because the faithful have arrived at the midpoint of Advent, when their preparation is now half over and they are close to Christmas. The progressive lighting of the candles symbolizes the expectation and hope surrounding our Lord’s first coming into the world and the anticipation of His second coming to judge the living and the dead.

The light again signifies Christ, the Light of the world. Some modern day adaptions include a white candle placed in the middle of the wreath, which represents Christ and is lit on Christmas Eve. Another tradition is to replace the three purple and one rose candles with four white candles, which will be lit throughout Christmas season.

In family practice, the Advent wreath is most appropriately lit at dinner time after the blessing of the food. A traditional prayer service using the Advent wreath proceeds as follows: On the First Sunday of Advent, the father of the family blesses the wreath, praying: O God, by whose word all things are sanctified, pour forth Thy blessing upon this wreath, and grant that we who use it may prepare our hearts for the coming of Christ and may receive from Thee abundant graces. Who livest and reignest forever. Amen.” He then continues for each of the days of the first week of Advent, O Lord, stir up Thy might, we beg thee, and come, that by Thy protection we may deserve to be rescued from the threatening dangers of our sins and saved by Thy deliverance. Who livest and reignest forever. Amen.” The youngest child then lights one purple candle.

During the second week of Advent, the father prays: O Lord, stir up our hearts that we may prepare for Thy only begotten Son, that through His coming we may be made worthy to serve Thee with pure minds. Who livest and reignest forever. Amen.” The oldest child then lights the purple candle from the first week plus one more purple candle.

During the third week of Advent, the father prays: O Lord, we beg Thee, incline Thy ear to our prayers and enlighten the darkness of our minds by the grace of Thy visitation. Who livest and reignest forever. Amen.” The mother then lights the two previously lit purple candles plus the rose candle.

Finally, the father prays during the fourth week of Advent, O Lord, stir up Thy power, we pray Thee, and come; and with great might help us, that with the help of Thy grace, Thy merciful forgiveness may hasten what our sins impede. Who livest and reignest forever. Amen.” The father then lights all of the candles of the wreath.

Since Advent is a time to stir-up our faith in the Lord, the wreath and its prayers provide us a way to augment this special preparation for Christmas. Moreover, this good tradition helps us to remain vigilant in our homes and not lose sight of the true meaning of Christmas.

HISTORY OF THE ADVENT WREATH

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29 posted on 12/06/2005 11:40:53 AM PST by NYer (ôSocialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: trisham

Ah, but what about Christmas lights, mate? How long do your Christmas lights stay up?


30 posted on 12/06/2005 11:51:45 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger ("As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, while God is marching on.")
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Ah, but what about Christmas lights, mate? How long do your Christmas lights stay up?

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"Stay up"? Are they supposed to come down?

31 posted on 12/06/2005 11:57:22 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: churchillbuff

I agree that we should go back to having at least 12 days of Christmas. That would certainly trump Adam Sandler's "eight crazy nights"!


32 posted on 12/06/2005 2:36:42 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: Salvation

Thanks for the ping,Salvation.


33 posted on 12/06/2005 3:09:12 PM PST by fatima
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To: churchillbuff

YES!!


34 posted on 12/06/2005 4:16:05 PM PST by NewCenturions
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I'll answer by repeating my post from the other thread:

I use the example of the gradually increasing light of the Advent wreath as the pattern for decorating at home and Church.

At home, the decorations begin with creches at the beginning of Advent (minus the Christ Child, who does not appear until December 24 mid day) and these will remain up through Candlemass. Outdoor lights are added in groupings each Advent Saturday. Right now blue bulbs predominate; and I actually have a grouping of four wild cedar trees that will serve as a living Advent wreath.

At home and Church alike Gaudete Sunday is the turning point...that is when the trees appear. Church poinsettias do not arrive until Advent 4. The church nave has deep window sills so the only creche figures at the stable (also placed on Gaudete) are animals and a shepherd. Mary and Joseph are on a front window ledge. The Magi and their camels are much farther back, and will move forward with each successive Sunday or Festival. The church creche also stays up through Candlemass.

Returning back home, Christmas Eve is the big outdoor transformation when many of the blue lights are suddenly supplemented with clear; a wire sculpture creche is lighted, plus a whole lot of clear lighted wild trees. And these remain lighted through all of the twelve days! Lights remain "up" through January 5.


35 posted on 12/06/2005 8:37:37 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Salvation

Merry Christmas to all!


36 posted on 12/07/2005 7:55:42 AM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: NYer

I've always had an advent wreath but did not know an english prayer....thank you for posting.


37 posted on 12/07/2005 1:36:16 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: lightman

that's an absolutely beautiful adaptation of the tradition using modern lights. Thank you for sharing.


38 posted on 12/07/2005 1:38:08 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: patriciaruth

We celebrate through Epiphany, too, and have an Epiphany Party to wrap things up. People are still wanting to celebrate and we all finally have the time available. We have to put a flyer in with our invitations, tho — a definition of Epiphany, for the non-liturgical and non-churched.

In Vienna, they start the Waltz Season December 26 and go til - what? Epiphany? Lent? In Merrye England, they celebrated the Twelve Days After. The Puritans left some of the good stuff behind, but it is ours for the taking.


39 posted on 12/14/2007 8:14:11 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

We always keep our tree and decorations and creche up till Epiphany, too.

That’s when the Wise Men came. Some countries pass out their gifts on that day to commemorate the gifts the Magi brought the infant Jesus.


40 posted on 12/14/2007 2:48:45 PM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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