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Why do Moslems Underachieve?
Faith Freedom.org ^ | 2005/11/24 | Thierry Gattuso

Posted on 12/06/2005 8:59:16 AM PST by elfman2

Muslims make up 22% of the World’s population, according to the United Nations' Arab Human Development Report: "Half of Arab women cannot read; One in five Arabs live on less than $2 per day; Only 1 percent of the Arab population has a personal computer, and only half of 1 percent use the Internet; Fifteen percent of the Arab workforce is unemployed; 60% of Muslims are illiterate”. Only two Muslims have won the Nobel prize in a scientific field - Dr. Abdus Salam, in 1979 for Physics and Dr. Ahmed Zewail, in 1992 for Chemistry. Dr Salam a native of Pakistan , is not considered to be a Muslim in his home country as he follows the Ahmadiyyas sect of Islam.

Only 600 universities service a Muslim population of 1.2 billion in 57 countries. Half the universities concentrate on teaching Islamic education and science. India has 8,407 universities for 1 billion people and the United States has 5,758 for 280 million people. The combined annual GDP (purchasing power parity basis) of the 57 Muslim countries is under $2 trillion. The US produces goods and services worth $10.4 trillion; China $5.7 trillion, Japan $3.5 trillion, India $3 trillion and Germany $2.1 trillion. The oil rich states Saudi Arabia , United Arab Emirates , Kuwait and Qatar collectively produce goods and services worth $430 billion; Thailand alone produces goods and services worth $429 billion.

Underachievement by Muslims was not always the case claim Muslims and point to a glorious and illustrious time when the Arab Muslim empire was the most advanced and enlightened in the world. Many discoveries were made in the period 750 – 1250 AD according to Muslims. Critical analysis of this period shows that many of the advancements and discoveries we falsely attribute to Muslims were actually made by the ancient civilisations of the Mediterranean area, or by the ancient Chinese and Indian civilisations.

Muslims believe, that glass mirrors, were first developed by Muslim Spain in the 11th century. Around 1290 Venetians learned how to produce glass from the Spanish Muslims. The Romans invented the glass mirror around the 1st century. Research by Reinuad and Fave, indicates that Muslims chemists were the first to develop the formula for gunpowder and later produced firearms. The Chinese knew the formula for gunpowder and used it for military purposes during the Sung dynasty of the 12th century. Muslims boast that they laid the foundations for modern mathematics and two of its main branches, geometry and trigonometry. The Muslim contribution was merely to collect and combine the work done by the Egyptians, Greeks, Indians, Persians and Romans. The Indian civilisation gave us the concept of zero and modern numbers. Brahmagupta, an Indian mathematician, (598 – 665 AD) can be accredited with the initial work on algebra and negative numbers. The trigonometry terms sine and cosine have there origin in Sanskrit, the ancient language of India .

The underachievement and underperformance by Muslims is acute in the 57 Islamic countries. Muslims claim that they are recovering from a long period of colonisation and de colonisation and the effects of the removal of the Palestinian people from Arab lands. How about the achievements of Muslims who live and work in the West? Well the truth is not that much better than their cousins in Muslim countries.

The United Kingdom census of 2001 for the first time looked at the nation’s religious background. The findings showed that Muslims make up 2.8% of the UK population. Hindus 1%, Sikhs 0.6, Buddhists and Jews both make up 0.5% of the UK population. 31% of Muslims of working age have no qualifications, the highest of any religious group. As in many countries owing your own home is a major achievement and financial responsibility. 82% of Sikhs followed by 78% of Jews own their own home in the UK . Only 52% of Muslims own their own home, the lowest of any religious group. 14% of Muslims are unemployed, compared to 8% of Sikhs and 6% of Hindus. The underachievement of Muslims is even more bleak when you examine where most Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhist in the UK come from. 75% of Muslims, 97% of Hindus, 98 % of Sikhs and 69% of Buddhists in the UK are from or have ancestral links to South Asia . Therefore any cultural factors can be largely ruled out when comparing the achievement of Muslims with people from other religious groups. Muslims complain that they have to overcome language difficulties and face discrimination in the UK and state this as a factor in there poor performance. Buddhists, Hindus and Sikhs face the same language and discrimination issues as Muslims, yet their achievements and performance is much better than Muslims.

The underachievement of Muslims should come as no surprise to those of us who understand the true nature of Islam. Everything a Muslim needs to know is in the Koran, Hadith or Sunnah. Muslims are not encouraged to seek knowledge and better themselves. Muslims are against progress, modernity and science. Those that control Islam do not want to see Muslims educated as an educated Muslim will apply commonsense and logic to the Koran and see it for what its is, a collection of distorted Bible and Torah stories and in print the mind of a 7th century Bedouin bandit leader.

References

United Nations' Arab Human Development Report 2002

United Nations' Arab Human Development Report 2003

World Book Encyclopaedia

Encyclopaedia Britannica

Chronology of Science and Discovery Isaac Asimov's

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/focuson/religion/


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; moslems; muslims
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To: elfman2

If you have to pray towards Mecca 5 times each day, then you spend all day looking at the clock and thinking about what you will pray about. Being a Muslim leaves you no time to think about topics outside the religion or to come up with new ideas. And even if you did come up with a new idea, it would be condemned as non-islamic.

So Muslims remain poor because they have no time to be any other way.


41 posted on 12/06/2005 10:08:06 AM PST by Number_Cruncher
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To: elfman2
Muslims believe, that glass mirrors, were first developed by Muslim Spain in the 11th century.

Was the original article really punctuated this way? Good grief! This writer must have graduated from the "sprinkle commas randomly throughout your writing" school.

42 posted on 12/06/2005 10:11:41 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: elfman2
They excel in one thing only: Their thirst for BLOOD.

No other religion has killed so many innocents in the name of GOD.

43 posted on 12/06/2005 10:13:24 AM PST by OrangeBlossomSpecial (The RATS followed the lazy tune of the pied-piper's flute and were never seen again.)
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To: elfman2

well below-average life expectancy?


44 posted on 12/06/2005 10:15:39 AM PST by smonk
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To: elfman2

Most of the Muslims I know go all-out for education. In one large family every one of them has a college degree and many are professionals. In fact, most of the community is like that.

However, they are from Iran, which is more Persian than Arab culture. So maybe the lack of education is not so much a Muslim thing as an Arab thing.


45 posted on 12/06/2005 10:16:00 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: jackbenimble

I stand corrected.


46 posted on 12/06/2005 10:19:51 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways "Guero")
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To: elfman2
Fundamentalists came to rule Islamic society and have never lost their grip.

There's the whole problem with Islam today, wrapped up nicely in one short sentence.

47 posted on 12/06/2005 10:20:12 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: elfman2
why do moslems underachieve?

islam.
48 posted on 12/06/2005 10:23:07 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: elfman2

They kill all their achievers, and terrorize the rest. Plus incest because of polygamy, systematic abuse of women....snip..........


49 posted on 12/06/2005 10:24:09 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf. (All religious headdress). The effect will creat a huge domino effect..)
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To: elfman2
Muslims underachieve for the same reason as all other underachievers: Low self-esteem.
Sure, we can say they are stupid or backward or 'stuck in the 8th century,' but all of those things can be changed by anyone who truly believes in his own abilities. Muslims have spent the past few centuries being brainwashed into believing they are superior to everyone else because they live simply, without most of the basic things that make life pleasant here.
Now they look across the ocean and see people living better, more comfortable lives while breaking all the rules they've been taught. So their teachers tell them all that is the work of the devil and their task is to defeat that devil and one way is to wear this belt of C-4 and batteries.
For them to question the reason for the explosive belt would lead them to question all the other things they've been taught and that would open up a whole new can of worms that their brainwashing doesn't allow for.
They are fanatics and, just as gun-control fanatics cannot be reasoned with, they can't see anything except from their own point of view. While it is not politically correct to say so, in the end, we will either have to kill them or convert to Islam.
50 posted on 12/06/2005 10:24:09 AM PST by oldfart ("All governments and all civilizations fall... eventually. Our government is not immune.)
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To: babygene
If they were not stupid, they wouldn't be Muslim in the first place...

The culture you're born into has more to do with what religion you'll be than anything else. The amount of indoctrination/brainwashing/religious education you get through childhood increases the likelihood you will remain with that religion. And Islam does a whole lot of that, more than any Christian sect I can think of.

51 posted on 12/06/2005 10:24:57 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: jackbenimble

It is later branching. Diaspora provided quite a selective evolutionary pressure to survive by one's wits.


52 posted on 12/06/2005 10:25:44 AM PST by GSlob
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To: elfman2

Bump


53 posted on 12/06/2005 10:31:40 AM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: elfman2
First, he asks the question...

Why do Moslems Underachieve?

Then, he answers the question...

The underachievement of Muslims should come as no surprise to those of us who understand the true nature of Islam. Everything a Muslim needs to know is in the Koran, Hadith or Sunnah. Muslims are not encouraged to seek knowledge and better themselves. Muslims are against progress, modernity and science. Those that control Islam do not want to see Muslims educated as an educated Muslim will apply commonsense and logic to the Koran and see it for what its is, a collection of distorted Bible and Torah stories and in print the mind of a 7th century Bedouin bandit leader.

That's an excellent answer!

54 posted on 12/06/2005 10:32:12 AM PST by Gritty ("Anyone who is against me is against Allah and must be killed where they stand" - Ayatollah Khomeini)
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To: elfman2

Because like most everyone who underachieves, they're lazy and stupid.


55 posted on 12/06/2005 10:32:48 AM PST by jpl
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To: elfman2

Defective sub-culture, not the only one out there either.


56 posted on 12/06/2005 10:34:40 AM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: elfman2

bump


57 posted on 12/06/2005 10:36:33 AM PST by VOA
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To: elfman2

I submit that it is physical:

1) Turbans restrict blood circulation in the head/cranial region.

2) Brain damage from all the rocking back and forth when they are learning lessons and studying Koran.

3) Lack of chairs. They have to sit and bend over to write which causes what blood is there to stagnate;

4) Ululation. Exposure to the sound causes sonic damage to ears, impeding ability to listen and learn.

Add to this the dictatorial nature of gov't/religion, general societal poverty, and a class system, and you have the makings of underachievers.

parsy, who wishes they wanted the benefits of freedom


58 posted on 12/06/2005 10:38:58 AM PST by parsifal
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To: narby
One of their biggest problems is they believe that borrowing money is a sin. Therefore it's hard for them to build businesses, or acquire land and property.

They can. There are plenty of banks loaning money to Muslims. They get around the prohibition using semantics and technicalities. They can use the same three-way contract that Christians used to use to get around their prohibition on interest, or, for example, a bank can do a mortgage by buying a house for a price and selling it to the person for more, allowing him to pay them back in installments, the interest built into the resale price.

59 posted on 12/06/2005 10:46:09 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: elfman2
Underachievement by Muslims was not always the case claim Muslims and point to a glorious and illustrious time when the Arab Muslim empire was the most advanced and enlightened in the world.

Yeah, Al Bundy used to be a football star in high school too, now he sells shoes to fat ladies.

The Muslims have devolved into sand rats. Who cares?

60 posted on 12/06/2005 10:49:50 AM PST by Kenton (To my friends who celebrate Jesus' birth, Merry Christmas. To the rest of you, have a nice day off.)
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