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The truth about tipping
December 6, 2005 | George

Posted on 12/06/2005 12:33:26 PM PST by George14

It has recently been publicized that a 20 percent tip is now appropriate because servers are usually only guaranteed $2.13 an hour and the tips have to be split. Let me explain something. It is the customer's sole right to determine whether a tip is given, the amount and who will be the recipient of his tip. Such rights are not only guaranteed by our constitution they are clearly explained in the Code of Federal Regulations. Customers may tip any amount they choose. Instead of a higher tip being appropriate, what is now actually appropriate is for the public to start questioning why they are being expected to tip more.

While it has been widely publicized that tip splitting and lowered wages are both creating a need for higher tip percentages, what is not being publicized is an explanation of what these business practices actually are and why they create a need for the public to tip more. You see in both cases, such practices equate to employers being allowed to take part the tips away from the employee to whom the customer has presented a tip. You see, tip splitting is the business practice whereby employers take part of the tipped employee's tips and give them to workers whom the customer had every right and ability to tip but didn't. The $2.13 an hour business practice which has been publicized is actually called a tip credit. The tip credit also allows businesses to take or credit part of their employee's tips for themselves. In both cases the public's tips are being taken by businesses owners. The problem is not that customers should be tipping more the problem is that business owners should not be utilizing their employee's tips for the business's interests.

The truth is, business owners are using the customer's tips which undeniably and indisputably are not intended for the business owner for the business's own interests. Such business practices are being allowed by our government even though such business practices are an illegal dominion over the customer's property. To put it simply, businesses are being allowed to steal the money customers present as tips. Now, the public is being expected to tip more because the workers are not receiving the financial benefits of the tips they have been presented.

What is needed is not a higher tip percentage but some educating of the public of what is actually happening to their tip. Businesses have lobbied our federal government and I believe have probably even paid off many of our judges so they can steal the financial benefits of the tips our public is tipping workers in the service industry. The stories you read on how the public is being expected to tip more are actually stories about how our country is allowing businesses owners an ability to blatantly steal from their workers. If the real issue was resolved there would be no issue.

Employers should be prohibited from using their employee's tips to establish a lower minimum wage for their tipped workers. Customers are not tipping so the business can lower it's payroll expenses and thus benefit itself to the customer's tip. Customers are not tipping so the business owner can decide who should share in their tip. Both these business practices are fraud on the public for they are clearly the misappropriations of the public's property. Because our public has sat back and done nothing as business owners misappropriate the public's tips to their own interests, there now exists an undue pressure on the public to tip more to make up for such criminal acts.

The reason I believe our public has sat back and done nothing as business owners reap the financial benefits of the tips presented to their workers is because the media has also been paid off to avoid informing the public of what is actually happening to their tip when the courts ignore the constitutional rights of the customer and when our federal government so blatantly misappropriates the public's tips. The courts have ruled that employers may share the customer's tip among employees whom the customer had every right to tip but didn't. The federal government has allowed businesses to benefit themselves to the customer's tip through the tip credit without the consent of the customer. Such acts by our federal government and courts are not only unconstitutional but criminal. The media is covering up such crimes by intentionally avoiding the issue and keeping the truth from the public.

The tipped employees of this nation need some help from the public on these issues. The truth of what is happening to the customer's tip is being withheld from the public so that employers can continue to steal our tips while the public is left to foot the bill.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: angrywaitersyndrome; bibletracts; conspiracy; crackpot; deeduhdee; looneytoon; mdm; mrpink; reservoirdogs; tipcredit; tipouts; tipping; tippooling; tips; tipsplitting
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To: George14

Uhhhh ok,

I usually just give my waiter or waitress their tip in cash. If they choose to share it's their business.


21 posted on 12/06/2005 12:43:32 PM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: George14

Oh please can we do a little more self promotion.

I work in the casino business and we split tips only with those who provide direct services to the dealers. Who the hell do you think make the tipped DEALERS work possible.

The people who clean the cards, sort them, bring the customers in etc. Casinos for example keep no portion of the dealers tips they strictly distribute the tip contributions made by the dealers.


22 posted on 12/06/2005 12:44:01 PM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: saveliberty

Cool, thanks for the update. It's going on 10 years for me since I last went.


23 posted on 12/06/2005 12:44:53 PM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: George14

Cow Tipping is for wimps... try Bull Tipping.


24 posted on 12/06/2005 12:45:08 PM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: George14

Where does this happen? My bartender gets his tip, my waitress gets her tip, my barber get his and I've never seen any one them put the money in the owner's till,pocket or whatever. On a credit card, maybe that's different. I don't see what the b!tch is here.


25 posted on 12/06/2005 12:45:18 PM PST by Safetgiver (Noone spoke when the levee done broke, Blanco cried and Nagin lied.)
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To: George14
Is that you, Mr. White?

I don't tip because society says I gotta. I tip when somebody deserves a tip. When somebody really puts forth an effort, they deserve a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, that sh!t's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doin their job.

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Resivour Dogs

26 posted on 12/06/2005 12:45:26 PM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: ClearCase_guy
Tipping seems so European.

You have obviously never been outside the USA. Tipping is almost exclusively done here.

27 posted on 12/06/2005 12:45:35 PM PST by dollar_dog
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To: frogjerk

I agree. I was in NYC and needed to get to the airport quickly. I told the cabbie how much of a tip (flat amount) he would get if he would get me to the airport by X time. He did and he got his tip.

PS No hazardous driving was involved or required, but he really took the fastest way. Shortest trip to Laguardia I ever had.


28 posted on 12/06/2005 12:45:56 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: George14

And by the way.....I've been tipping 30% for good service for years now.


29 posted on 12/06/2005 12:46:06 PM PST by Safetgiver (Noone spoke when the levee done broke, Blanco cried and Nagin lied.)
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To: dollar_dog

Just back from Germany and 10% tipping is the norm.

It is a different Europe now.


30 posted on 12/06/2005 12:46:34 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: George14
The reason I believe our public has sat back and done nothing as business owners reap the financial benefits of the tips presented to their workers is because the media has also been paid off to avoid informing the public of what is actually happening to their tip when the courts ignore the constitutional rights of the customer and when our federal government so blatantly misappropriates the public's tips

But what about the Trilateral Commision and the Bildebergers? And something this big couldn't happen without the Pope being involved. < /sarcasm, as if you couldn't tell>

31 posted on 12/06/2005 12:47:33 PM PST by KarlInOhio (In memory of Alvin Owen, Thsai-Shai Yang, Yen-I Yang and Yee Chen Lin:the victims of Tookie Williams)
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To: Forest Keeper

Tip the horse. If you don't, you'll be sorry next time.


32 posted on 12/06/2005 12:48:11 PM PST by Nick Danger (www.vvlf.org)
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To: tfecw

:-) You're welcome. You also have to tell the waiter before he takes your credit card that you would like the bill to include a tip. Otherwise you would have to leave a cash tip.


33 posted on 12/06/2005 12:48:12 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Tipping is elitist and un-American? So we can cheat, steal, murder, sell state secrets, etc., so long as we don't tip our favorite waiter. OK. Sounds reasonable.


34 posted on 12/06/2005 12:48:25 PM PST by BagelFace (BOOGABOOGABOOGABOOGA!!!!)
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To: BluH2o
"...However, when I use my credit card most times I tip with cash ... no tip amount on the credit card slip."

Me, too. A tip under the table is my own personal rebellion against the IRS.

35 posted on 12/06/2005 12:48:43 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Attack (Democrats) until they stop twitching and then attack some more." -J. Peter Mulhern)
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To: ClearCase_guy

"Tipping seems so European."

Not sure what you mean. In Germany, for instance, you round out your bill to the next Mark (euro). It might be mere pennies. "Stimtt so!"


36 posted on 12/06/2005 12:48:58 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: toddlintown

10% as of November 2005. I just came back


37 posted on 12/06/2005 12:49:31 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: Vaquero; All

Tip share is bogus. It only serves to allow employers to pay busboys and cooks less money. Those folks are not on the 2'13 per hour scale and the tips I have always left were for the WAITRESS/WAITER for their service. I have stopped tipping alltogether due to tipshare.

If I think my booth is very clean and I want to tip the busboy I will. If I want to tip the cooks I will. To me, those services are part the bill I pay for the meal. A curteous waitress that never lets my drink glass go empty is worth a tip. But she aint going to get one from me when I know that her employer is going to take that tip and split it up with other folks that did not intend to tip at all.

Tip share is a form of socialism in that a work group will all get equal share of tips made, so then while a waitress busts her a$$ and the busboy slacks off(or the other way around) the each get the same cut. Pi$$ on that noise.


38 posted on 12/06/2005 12:49:37 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: George14

39 posted on 12/06/2005 12:50:47 PM PST by gwhiz (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance.. then Baffle them with BS)
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To: ContemptofCourt

That's it, I'm takin' my dollar back.

But what's True Blue really about?


40 posted on 12/06/2005 12:51:19 PM PST by Woman on Caroline Street (Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.)
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