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The truth about tipping
December 6, 2005 | George

Posted on 12/06/2005 12:33:26 PM PST by George14

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To: SandyInSeattle

All income is reportable. Tips are explicitly stated as taxable income right on the form.


151 posted on 12/06/2005 1:50:39 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: Beelzebubba

Oh, that was bad form on his part


152 posted on 12/06/2005 1:51:16 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: avg_freeper
Like Vinnie Antonlini I believe in over-tipping.

Agreed. Its not how much you tip, its how much you over tip. I generally overtip in places I frequent and generally get treated like royalty. I figure the few extra bucks are just a small investment.

I loved it when Vinnie tried to tip the FBI agents.

153 posted on 12/06/2005 1:52:43 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Good old Doug Sulliman -- one of the unheralded players from those early Devils teams from the "Mickey Mouse team" era of the 1980s.


154 posted on 12/06/2005 1:52:52 PM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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To: George14

TIPS (TO INSURE PROPER SERVICE) were 10% in my youth if the service was satisfactory...a penny was left if it wasn't. Now folks want me to tip 15 or 20 percent because the wait staff needs it because the cost of living has gone up.

I've got news for them. The cost of a meal has also gone up, so when you give a 10% tip it's already indexed for inflation.


155 posted on 12/06/2005 1:53:30 PM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: avg_freeper
I Tip Everybody, Even in Take Out Joints. I tend to be a little picky when I order out sometimes. When I had a Used Car Checked out for me, they said No Charge,So I bought them all Pizzas the next day. All of my Local restaurants know me by name and they never screw up my order. At my Mechanic when I need my car back soon he bumps people for me, this service I love.
156 posted on 12/06/2005 1:56:01 PM PST by cmsgop ( Bill Clinton's License Plate..... "Herpes 1")
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To: Forest Keeper
Take a carrot or two for the horse (points with the lady), 2 fives for the coachman - if its a good ride give him/her both (15%) if not, just one. If she doesn't want to feed the horse a carrot she's not female. BTW - break the carrot into 2 or 3 pieces and keep your fingers out straight with the carrot in your/her palm and ask the driver first.
Good luck! ;-)
157 posted on 12/06/2005 1:56:25 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Retired COB
"I've got news for them. The cost of a meal has also gone up, so when you give a 10% tip it's already indexed for inflation.

Not to change the subject, but what about real estate agents that get paid 6-7% for the sale of a home? Wow talk about adjusted for inflation!

ok back to tipping.... :0

158 posted on 12/06/2005 1:58:46 PM PST by Coffee_drinker (Since Bush became president, the taliban are gone, saddam is gone, Khadaffi is neutered, arafat died)
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To: BlueStateDepression
Where to start??? I tip who I want to tip, others do not decide who my tip goes to. BIG difference there!! Busboys and cooks and dishwashers are not paid 2.13 an hour, I know I wasn't, and I know my brother isn't today.

*Some* employers are indeed using this 'tip share' scam to pay dishwashers, BB's, etc. all 2.13 per hr. (saves employers from having to pay min. wage to them.)

My kid was informed she would 'tip share' with all including the dishwasher, who was paid the same 2.13, didn't speak English, NEVER saw any customers.

The *employers only* love this 'tip share' scam, why pay min. wage when you can FORCE the food servers to *share* tips ???

159 posted on 12/06/2005 1:59:24 PM PST by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: Coffee_drinker

"but what about real estate agents that get paid 6-7% for the sale of a home"

Contractors all need a tip share....the tax man needs a tip share...the housing authority needs a tip share, local municipalities need a tip share, LOL


160 posted on 12/06/2005 2:00:56 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: mosquitobite
No, the question is, why doesn't the restaurant business have to pay their employees? Every other industry it is part of the cost of business, no?

Because we've got this customary system that evolved naturally over time, and this is codified in our laws. It seems to work out OK.

Employees paid to scale with no motivator would not be pleasant.

SD

161 posted on 12/06/2005 2:01:15 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: George14

When dining alone, I always tip in cash only. And I always put the tip into the waiter's or waitress's hand. Discreetly. I don't want that tip taxed, swiped or "shared."


162 posted on 12/06/2005 2:02:43 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: txdoda

Exactly doda, this is a socialist scam from the get go, where the elites make out like bandits and the working folks take it in the behind......Ironic isn't it, how socialist policy always works out that way?


163 posted on 12/06/2005 2:02:48 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: txdoda
'Tip Share' scam only benefits the employers, because they now only have to PAY these busboys, hostesses, etc the same 2 bucks per hr. as they pay the waitresses.....because they all now 'share tips'.

It's not a "scam" it's a business practice. Are the employees slaves? I think not. If the busboys agree to work for these conditions, and it is legal, what is the beef? That you tip to impress the cute waitress, and she has to give some to the sweaty fellow?

SD

164 posted on 12/06/2005 2:02:54 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Bonaparte

Just to bad that after you leave that waiter or waitress still has to put that tip you gave them in a pile to be split up among the tip share group.


165 posted on 12/06/2005 2:04:12 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression
I see where you are going with TIP SHARE

Lets all give all our money to the Government and let them tip share to everyone in the U.S. So we all make the exact same amount.

What a wonderful idea, hey has anyone ever thought of this before,hmmmmm...
166 posted on 12/06/2005 2:04:22 PM PST by Coffee_drinker (Since Bush became president, the taliban are gone, saddam is gone, Khadaffi is neutered, arafat died)
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To: BlueStateDepression
Well actually here in Mass. it used to be 6% Real Estate fee, now it's 4%.

The Broker gets 2%, the listing agent gets 1% (sometimes .5%) the selling agent gets 1%, (sometimes 1.5%)

So I guess you could say they "tip share".
167 posted on 12/06/2005 2:04:42 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Iraqis thank our troops more often than Democrats.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Euroweenies don't tip and look down on Americans for doing so. Typically they just round up the bill, and that's it.


168 posted on 12/06/2005 2:05:53 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: SoothingDave

It's a questionable business practice sir. That is the very point of this thread.

Most people have NO IDEA what a tip share is and have NO CLUE that the one they gave money to is about to give up 3/4 of it. When more people DO know this they will tip less and your business will see less tips and then you will see less people willing to work at that business that are worth their salt.

You have every right to want to pay your labor 2.13 an hour and have your customers pay the rest of their wages. This is a path that takes your employees AND your customers for granted, so you better make your money and run....as it will not last for the long term.


169 posted on 12/06/2005 2:07:37 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: Coffee_drinker

BWAAA hahahahahaha Exactly my friend!


170 posted on 12/06/2005 2:08:10 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression
You consider a table cleaned, and cleaned in a swift manner so you don't have to wait to be "part of the bill,"

Absolutely and here is why. The health department says it HAS to be clean and they benefit it being done swiftly because they get to seat me before I get tired of waiting and go elsewhere. Artifical it is not.

Try posting my whole thought and responding to it, not picking part of a phrase out to respond to.

Yes, clean tables are an expected part of the service. So is table delivery in a restaurant that forbids you from picking up your food yourself. So why tip one class of employee and not the other?

Is there a logical reason?

As you notice many food places see you take your own food to the table and even see you fill your own cup. The meal doesn't cost you any less now does it? The booths still have to be clean Eh?

I certainly expect food to cost less in a place where I pick up my own food than in a place where it is brought to me. You don't?

why does it bother you if they all share in your gratuity?

Where to start??? I tip who I want to tip, others do not decide who my tip goes to. BIG difference there!!

Once you give it away, why are you so concerned where it goes next? Why doyou want to unilaterally re-write the employment agreement between the company and the various classes of service workers to suit your own ideas?

Is there a logical reason for this? Do you really ever go out of your way to tip a busboy? Would it tick you off if he than put this into a pool because those were the rules of his workplace?

Busboys and cooks and dishwashers are not paid 2.13 an hour, I know I wasn't, and I know my brother isn't today.

You seem to not be understanding the issue. The issue is that busboys are being re-defined into a lower-wage plus tips situation, they are being paid like waitresess and getting part of the tips.

Should we then tip extra knowing it's for 2 people? I say no. Should I get upset if my tip meant for one is spread out among two? No. I don't really care that much.

The real question here is why are cooks and busboys relying on the presentation of the waitress for their pay?

Why are waitresses and waiters relying on cooks and busboys for their pay? Maybe they are all part of the same team.

Tip share is a racket. It is a way for them to get you, the customer, to pay an even greater share of their overhead than youpay for the meal itself. Tip share will see the act of tipping fall off as people understand what happens to their tips.

I'm going to tip what I feel is appropriate. I am not going to pay double cause two people are sharing. I am also not going to penalize the workers because of the situation they are in. If you are some vehemently opposed to this idea, don't eat at place like that. I don't think most people are going to boycott tips as a protest against an employers practices. How does that help?

SD

171 posted on 12/06/2005 2:17:35 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
It's not a "scam" it's a business practice.

Well, let's be fair then......maybe wait staff should also report to work in sloppy dirty clothes, unable to even communicate with customers.

My kid was told to wear a clean uniform, be presentable & polite to all customers........while she was FORCED to 'tip share' with the scuzzy, dirty, smart ass dishwasher, who was also paid 2.13 ph.

But hey, if it saves the EMPLOYERS money, who cares about what's HID in the kitchen.

172 posted on 12/06/2005 2:20:00 PM PST by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: SoothingDave
I don't care where you work, there's always a slacker or two. My Wife works for a major US manufacturer (for the second time,she was laid off 2 yrs. ago and rehired) and her lab-mate (who was not laid off) is never to be found when there's work to be done.
173 posted on 12/06/2005 2:22:44 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: BlueStateDepression
It's a questionable business practice sir. That is the very point of this thread.

This thread is ridiculous. How is it "questionable" to follow the law?

Most people have NO IDEA what a tip share is and have NO CLUE that the one they gave money to is about to give up 3/4 of it.

Most people don't really care. Unless they are trying to hit on the hot waitress. If the servers and busboys don't like the situation, I suppose they can find work elsewhere, can't they? And if the quality of worker left to work for low wage plus tips is so poor that the business suffers quality problems, I imagine the situation will change.

It's all about service. If the business can't deliver, it will fail.

Worrying about tips is not going to affect anything.

When more people DO know this they will tip less and your business will see less tips and then you will see less people willing to work at that business that are worth their salt.

Exactly. If the system doesn't work, it will correct itself. Isn't capitalism grand? If the quality of service decreases, tips will go down, resulting in worse employees, lowering the service, etc. If the employees do a good job, then all benefit.

What bothers me is this attitude that "these people are being 'screwed' by having to share tips, so I'm not going to tip them." I don't think most people think that way.

SD

174 posted on 12/06/2005 2:24:05 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: wolfcreek
I don't care where you work, there's always a slacker or two. My Wife works for a major US manufacturer (for the second time,she was laid off 2 yrs. ago and rehired) and her lab-mate (who was not laid off) is never to be found when there's work to be done. SD
175 posted on 12/06/2005 2:24:58 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: wolfcreek
I don't care where you work, there's always a slacker or two. My Wife works for a major US manufacturer (for the second time,she was laid off 2 yrs. ago and rehired) and her lab-mate (who was not laid off) is never to be found when there's work to be done.

Did your wife work for tips? I fail to see how this applies.

SD

176 posted on 12/06/2005 2:25:08 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: txdoda
Well, let's be fair then......maybe wait staff should also report to work in sloppy dirty clothes, unable to even communicate with customers.

Yeah, that will help.

My kid was told to wear a clean uniform, be presentable & polite to all customers........while she was FORCED to 'tip share' with the scuzzy, dirty, smart ass dishwasher, who was also paid 2.13 ph.

Did she try to serve the customers without clean dishes? How'd that go?

But hey, if it saves the EMPLOYERS money, who cares about what's HID in the kitchen.

It certainly saves employers and customers money.

SD

177 posted on 12/06/2005 2:27:52 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

You think people working on a team, with cash bonuses on the line, are going to put up with one of the team members slacking off?

Forget the procapitalism stance. You were talking about team work and yes, people do put up with F'offs.


178 posted on 12/06/2005 2:30:41 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: SoothingDave

You want to claim i cherry picked then you back it up. I addressed what you asked me to.
Post what else you seem to think mattered that was part of that phrase!

Logically speaking, bringin my food is only part of a waitresses job. She deals with me directly. Does the cook? Does the busboy? Does the dishwasher? NOPE, see the difference there? Quite logical indeed.

Is a tip part of the cost of the food? You fail to see the difference don't you?????

"Once you give it away, why are you so concerned where it goes next?"

DID you really SAY that????? FFS
If I give a tip to a person I expect that person to get it. The game you are playing with your response to it will bring exactly what i already told you it would. LESS TIPPING which leads to less good people working for you. Ask Lone Star about tip share and see what happened to them when they did it here.....notice they no longer DO it here!

PEOPLE ought to KNOW the 'rules of the workplace' eh? Or do you seek to deceive them about where their tips go and how they are distributed. Ever seen a sign alerting the public as to a tipshare program? JEE I WONDER WHY the anser to that question is NO!?????????!!!!!

"You seem to not be understanding the issue. The issue is that busboys are being re-defined into a lower-wage plus tips situation, they are being paid like waitresess and getting part of the tips"

The busboys aren't paid any higher than before in take home pay, the waittresses ARE however taking home LESS, all the while employers pay less in wages as a cost of overhead from the price paid for the meal. Spin it any way you like but that is the fact about tipshare.


YOU may not care where your tip goes, you should have that choice. I should have that same choice right? Or is that something i say that you oppose also?

You have every right to tip as you feel appropriate. SO DO I! I feel tipshare is bogus and so do most people when they take a look at it. I ought to know when my tip is going to other people than who I give it to.

People will refuse to tip when they understand the person they are tipping doesn;t get to keep what they gave them. If you cannot see that, then I cannot help you. Either that or you think all or most people could care less where their money goes. Do you really think people do not care where their money goes as a general rule? That most people will not care one way or the other when they find out others are getting the money they GAVE to an individual? Do you REALLY think that about most people?



179 posted on 12/06/2005 2:32:50 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: Tunehead54
Good luck! ;-)

That's PERFECT, Tunehead54! Thank you so much. I will follow your advice to the letter.

180 posted on 12/06/2005 2:34:21 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: wolfcreek
Forget the procapitalism stance. You were talking about team work and yes, people do put up with F'offs.

Well, if cash incentive won't work, what do you think will? Obviously management has to be on top of things. But beyond that, do you really think a waitresses deserves a great tip if your order is all wrong and late and your silverware is dirty?

SD

181 posted on 12/06/2005 2:37:08 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: BluH2o

I do the same. The meal may be on a credit card, the tip is in cash.


182 posted on 12/06/2005 2:38:15 PM PST by Ditter
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To: BlueStateDepression
this is a socialist scam from the get go, where the elites make out like bandits and the working folks take it in the behind......

You got that right....my kid was @ locally owned steak house here in 'small-town' TX....

She also was FORCED to 'tip share' with the hostess' who after seating the customers, would then sit on their butts & talk on the phone, paint their nails, read a book, etc.....all while the wait staff was to be on their feet tending to all the customers needs.

Needless to say she only had this job a couple weeks. (& that was too long)

183 posted on 12/06/2005 2:40:19 PM PST by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: SoothingDave

It is questionable in and of itself to follow the law without question when there are legitmate questions that need to be answered. Making it 100% evident to people leaving tips how that money is doled out SHOULD be part of that law. Otherwise it is SHADY. Why be shady if it is so proper? Why not put out a sign alerting customers if it is so proper? Hmmmmmmm?

"Most people don't really care."

I guess you really DO believe that nonsense don't you! WOW!

The only reason tip share has gone on as long as it has is because people like you that ASSUME people won't care have done this underhanded in such a way that the people tipping do not understand that the tips do not always go to the person they gave it to. Hence no signs of this practice to the people doing the tipping!!!

If you are so confident then by all means put out a sign and let everyone that is tipping know EXACTLY where their tips are going. Why do we not see that again???

If I want someone to have a 20 dollar bill at Christmastime, the person I GIVE IT TO should HAVE IT.

The position you take is that someone else ,outside my own knowledge, should be able to TAKE that from them and decide HOW MUCH of it they get to keep. That is, in effect, someone else taking MY money and distributing it as THEY see fit. That removes MY RIGHT to distribute MY MONEY the way I SEE FIT. Employers have the right to divy up funds from the meal I pay for as they see fit. The tip is MINE to do that with NOT theirs. Do you understand the difference?


184 posted on 12/06/2005 2:41:23 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: SoothingDave

How the HELL does it save the customer money???? BWAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH wahever dude.


185 posted on 12/06/2005 2:42:18 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression
It is questionable in and of itself to follow the law without question when there are legitmate questions that need to be answered.

Huh? Nevermind, don't explain. I get your point. It makes you angry that waitresses have to share tips. I get it. Why don't you agree to meet the waitresses later and give her the tip then, or get her address and mail it to her?

Otherwise, you are tipping and that is covered by laws and by workplace rules. Sorry. Why not open your own reataurant if you don't like it?

"Most people don't really care."

I guess you really DO believe that nonsense don't you! WOW!

Yes, I do. If I leave a tip and part of it goes to the busboy, I am not out anything. I have not been deceived. If all of the waitresses working the room pool their tips together and help each other out instead of playing "not my table" when I need a refill, how am I damaged?

I am paying extra for the dining experience to be pleasant, and there are many facotrs in that, not just the cutie who talks me up and delivers the plate.

The position you take is that someone else ,outside my own knowledge, should be able to TAKE that from them and decide HOW MUCH of it they get to keep. That is, in effect, someone else taking MY money and distributing it as THEY see fit. That removes MY RIGHT to distribute MY MONEY the way I SEE FIT. Employers have the right to divy up funds from the meal I pay for as they see fit. The tip is MINE to do that with NOT theirs. Do you understand the difference?

Once you give the money away, it is not yours. It belongs to the waitress. But she is bound by law and by workplace rules. She is free to solicit tips elsewhere, but as an employee she must abide by the workplace rules. Do you understand that? Hell, Uncle Sam takes part of it as well, doesn't that just tan your hide?

SD

186 posted on 12/06/2005 2:49:00 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: BlueStateDepression
How the HELL does it save the customer money???? BWAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH wahever dude.

You imagine lower salaries for busboys all go into the hands of the greedy restaurant owner and are not part of keeping costs down, which translates into lower prices?

Hell, we could pay all busboys and waitresses $50/hour with no tipping, but the food would cost a heck of a lot. So why wouldn't lower salaries mean cheaper food. It's simple economics.

SD

187 posted on 12/06/2005 2:50:44 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
It certainly saves employers and customers money.

LOL......I've yet to EVER see any restaurant advertise they pass on the 'saved wages' to the customers.

In fact, in my case this is a 'high end' steak house & quite expensive for 'small-town, TX.

188 posted on 12/06/2005 2:55:27 PM PST by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: George14

Tip somebody in China 20% and watch the fun...


189 posted on 12/06/2005 2:57:55 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: SoothingDave

But beyond that, do you really think a waitresses deserves a great tip if your order is all wrong and late and your silverware is dirty?

No, that's why I was against the "tip pool". There will always be someone who will take advantage when they know they'll get paid an equal amount regardless their effort.


190 posted on 12/06/2005 2:59:21 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: billorites

I love bitterwaitress too.

Somebody wrote in that J-Lo tipped 25 cents on a bill of $625 (page 3 on your link).


191 posted on 12/06/2005 2:59:51 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: SoothingDave

No you don't get it. What pisses me off is that I am lead to falsely believe that when i give a waitress a tip she gets to keep it. In a tip share environment that is NOT the case. Like I said, IF this is such a moral and proper procedure then why isn;t it touted with a sign saying that is the procedure? You have not yet addressed that point have you?

Yes you have been deceived when a tip goes other than where you put it. To say I have not been, is to ignore the reality that I have not been told in any way that the money I give to a waitress is not hers to keep. That is precisely why there are never any signs now ISN'T it!

You wanna take the poisition that once my money is gone I have no say then you are against the very idea of holding congress accountable for tax dollars taken! Same principle applies here dude!

Here is a tip for ya, this policy HURTS the tipping process. I refuse to TIP AT ALL due to this and I would offer to that the more people find out about this the more will join me. Hence (again) why we see NO SIGNS of this practice put out by any that use it. GOT AN EXAMPLE of someone that does yet? NOPE didn't think so.

Uncle sam indeed takes part of it and I already understand that, it is known to all what income taxes are.....can you say the same ting about tip share schemes? NOPE, you sure cannot...and that my friend proves my point.


192 posted on 12/06/2005 3:03:15 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: SoothingDave

OH I agree it saves the owner money in labor costs he shifts to the customers. Where does the extra profit go? To reduced meals? YEAH RIGHT. You know better and SO do I....


193 posted on 12/06/2005 3:04:37 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

Mr. Pink doesn't tip.

~ Blue Jays ~

194 posted on 12/06/2005 3:07:18 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: BlueStateDepression

That's why I give it discreetly. Then what he does with it is up to him. If he wants to spend it on other waiters or spend it on a new collar for his cat, it's his option.


195 posted on 12/06/2005 4:26:50 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: SoothingDave; BlueStateDepression
Just two questions SD:
1)what is the incentive to work hard if you know you're possibly going to give half of what you work for away?
2)I guess you're also against "tax cuts" for the rich? ;)
196 posted on 12/06/2005 4:53:44 PM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
They don't think like we do. My company now gives bonuses that are about half of our total yearly income. In China, when the manager there reviewed what US management was wanting to give each employee they said absolutely not. LOL

In China, they said "If you give them that (probably less than $1000) they will quit." Not understanding management asked if it should be more. China manager said "NO! If you give them more than $X, they will quit. The bigger the bonus, the harder they think you expect them to work."

Kinda funny, eh? They equate the job done with the amount of pay. Ahhh...for those days HERE again...

197 posted on 12/06/2005 4:57:54 PM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
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To: mosquitobite; SoothingDave

Question number one was PERFECT.

I have 7 cowns and SD has seven cows. I work my butt off and care for my cows and the following year I have 14 cows. Meanwhile SD plays around and his cows get sick and die. Under SD's logic, the following year I should be forced to give him the fruits of my labor and call it 'sharing' and 'teamwork'. In conjunction with your question number one, SD what incentive to create ambition do I have to bust my butt taking care of my cows over the next year when I do not get to keep them anyway?


198 posted on 12/06/2005 5:09:10 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: mosquitobite

Are they hiring at your company??


199 posted on 12/06/2005 5:29:26 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Actually, yes. We're growing like crazy.


200 posted on 12/06/2005 5:36:53 PM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
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