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The truth about tipping
December 6, 2005 | George

Posted on 12/06/2005 12:33:26 PM PST by George14

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To: billorites

Love the site, I see Pierce Brosnan has made a couple of apperances. Bill=630.00 Tip=8.00, what a cheap limey Ahole.


41 posted on 12/06/2005 12:52:23 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Iraqis thank our troops more often than Democrats.)
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To: toddlintown

Not sure what you mean. In Germany, for instance, you round out your bill to the next Mark (euro). It might be mere pennies. "Stimtt so!"

That's "stimmt so," and I'll admit, sometime ago. 10% now? The times, they are a' changing.


42 posted on 12/06/2005 12:52:36 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: saveliberty
A similar thing happened to me. I was going on a trip and I left my plane tickets home. I took a cab from Jersey City to Central NJ because I reasoned it was the fastest way. I told the cabbie to step on it and there would be an extra tip in it for him. He made it to my car in unbelievable time and I gave the guy a $50 tip. He then said "America is a great country!" in some sort of arab accent...
43 posted on 12/06/2005 12:53:20 PM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Most European nations I've been to include the gratuity ("Service Charge") into the bill itself, and the custom is generally just to round up to the next round denomination. In Japan tipping is simply not done...you pay the bill and if a service charge is levied it's on the bill as well.

Tip splitting or sharing can work well if done properly at the right establishment. First, since a cook's work is partly responsible for the enjoyment of a meal the practice of a waitperson tipping out the kitchen staff makes sense to me, and it's usually just a small percentage (they make a higher base wage generally).

My local hangout is a small place with normally one cook and maximum two wait staff/bartenders in the evening. A couple of months ago the staff turned over fairly rapidly and the owner saw an opportunity. All servers at the bar or on the floor can and do serve everyone and tips are divided evenly. It's a small place and if two staff are on but everyone (us regulars) are all gathered around the bar one server got burned while the other cleaned up. The owner went out of her way to hire staff that get along really well and anyone who isn't a team player doesn't make it past the probation period. Service has gone to great levels and on average everyone is earning more at the end of the night consistantly.

Think...can you imagine a large establishment where customers at the end of the lunch period are all queing up to tip the bartender, the waitperson, the cook, etc? It would be chaos.

44 posted on 12/06/2005 12:53:21 PM PST by mitchbert (Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: manwiththehands

It's probably more effective to leave a miniscule tip on the card slip (i.e. on record) and the real tip in cash.


45 posted on 12/06/2005 12:53:36 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: George14
The courts have ruled that employers may share the customer's tip among employees whom the customer had every right to tip but didn't.

What the heck does that really mean anyway?

I became disappointed to learn that the tips for dealers at casinos were all pooled and split up among all the dealers. That's too bad, because a tip in those cases are definately rewards for good play, sometimes for the luck of winning, but usually for the fun the dealer added to the game.

I didn't realize waitstaff were also pooling tips at some restaurants... I wonder how widespread that is. I have a feeling the neighborhood bar I go to, this is not the case. They certainly make a point to close out all open tabs before they go off shift, so a new tab is started under the new waitress. I'm a very good tipper at my regular hangouts where they know my name.

46 posted on 12/06/2005 12:53:58 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: dollar_dog

Tip pooling is despicable

Your right, it unjustly lets employees who don't work as hard or properly do their jobs, benefit on an equal basis.
I usually tip a little less in these cases.


47 posted on 12/06/2005 12:54:52 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: toddlintown

It is a different place now.


48 posted on 12/06/2005 12:55:11 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: Woman on Caroline Street
LOL...I left out some of the more colorful lines...

BTW, great handle. Was in KW for Thanksgiving, and had breakfast at Pepe's (on Caroline Street). Always reminds me of that song.

49 posted on 12/06/2005 12:55:20 PM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: BlueStateDepression
If I think my booth is very clean and I want to tip the busboy I will. If I want to tip the cooks I will. To me, those services are part the bill I pay for the meal. A curteous waitress that never lets my drink glass go empty is worth a tip.

This is an artificial construct. You consider a table cleaned, and cleaned in a swift manner so you don't have to wait to be "part of the bill," yet you don't consider bringing the food to the table and keeping your whistle wet "part of the bill"? Is there some rational reason for that?

If busboys, hostesses and waitresses, along with cooks, all together make your experience a good one, why does it bother you if they all share in your gratuity? How can you logically single out the waitress?

SD

50 posted on 12/06/2005 12:57:01 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: frogjerk

LOL! Great story!


51 posted on 12/06/2005 12:57:16 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: mitchbert

They do include the gratuity. They now look for an additional tip.


52 posted on 12/06/2005 12:57:58 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: George14

I tip 15% exclusively unless bad service prompts me to go down. I figure this is overly generous to what they deserve because almost all restaurants are staffed by college-age girls and they just have their boyfriends take them out (and spend their hard-earned cash tipping some other waitress which she wont spend when she's going out).

I tip generously when I'm out on the town, because that's part of the whole entertainment value, throwing money around likes its no object. Going to a restaurant is not entertainment, its a service. I order burger, you bring me burger, now get out of my face while i eat. I dont understand why people believe they deserve such lavish incomes for services people in other equivalent fields make mininum wage.


53 posted on 12/06/2005 12:58:53 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: steve-b; frogjerk

I had a waitress that ignored us for 30 minutes. We were about to leave and then she came by to apologize. But rather than continuing to follow up, she ignored us for another 30 minutes.

I left a tip - one penny. I wanted her to see that I did not forget. I felt it was a more effective statement than leaving nothing.


54 posted on 12/06/2005 1:00:00 PM PST by saveliberty (The feed? Senator Ted thought it was part of the Big Dig. It's in the Esther Williams Tunnel now)
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To: George14

I still don't understand why there is a tip cup at Dunkin' Donuts. They walk over to the rack, put the donut in the bag, and ring it up at the register. Why does that require a tip?


55 posted on 12/06/2005 1:00:29 PM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jsher/)
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To: tfecw
Whiel I can't speak for the rest of Europe, tipping isn't customary in Germany.

Don't you round up the next Euro?

56 posted on 12/06/2005 1:00:46 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: George14

ok.. lets see if we can educate this author- at least as it applies in MI. for starters, minimum wage for servers is $2.65. servers are required to report 8% of their sales as tips.. most make more. now, as far as basing their hourly wage on what they make in tips.. its actually very nice the way they do it. if, between your hourly wage and your tips, you don't average $5.15 for the pay period, the employer is required to make it up to you.
in most cases, tip pooling is bad, but some makes sense. tipping bussers and bartenders is common practice, even required in most restaurants/ bars. the reason? the same as why you tip your server. its a gratuity to insure prompt, correct and pleasant service. because as a bartender, who do you think is gonna come first? the stupid waitress that doesn't tip me, or the paying customer at the end of the bar? similar for bussing. whose table is gonna get cleaned first? the waitress who tips the busser or the one who thinks he's lowlife scum that's beneath her?


57 posted on 12/06/2005 1:01:03 PM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: wolfcreek
Your right, it unjustly lets employees who don't work as hard or properly do their jobs, benefit on an equal basis.

Very fair point, and why it's harder to do (and I think not advisable) in a larger establishment. My local pub is the first place I've seen attempt it to this degree but it only works because the owner insists everyone share the workload and everyone gets along. The staff are all happy with the situation and they work more like a team. It is a well run place, mind you with very hands on owners (that don't take tip money themselves when they're working).

58 posted on 12/06/2005 1:01:58 PM PST by mitchbert (Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: wolfcreek
Tip pooling is despicable Your right, it unjustly lets employees who don't work as hard or properly do their jobs, benefit on an equal basis. I usually tip a little less in these cases.

You think people working on a team, with cash bonuses on the line, are going to put up with one of the team members slacking off? You think a person knowing that better service puts more money in his pocket is going to do a better or worse job? These aren't union workers getting paid scale to sit on their butts. This is pure capitalism. Results are rewarded instantly.

SD

59 posted on 12/06/2005 1:02:25 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Pierce Brosnan???

You know Sean Connery was the only REAL James Bond anyway.


60 posted on 12/06/2005 1:02:40 PM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
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