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Katrina victims testify on racism's role
AP/mlive.com ^ | 12/6/2005, 5:58 p.m. ET | LARA JAKES JORDAN

Posted on 12/06/2005 3:25:07 PM PST by quantim

WASHINGTON (AP) — Black survivors of Hurricane Katrina said Tuesday that racism contributed to the slow disaster response, at times likening themselves in emotional congressional testimony to victims of genocide and the Holocaust.

The comparison is inappropriate, according to Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla.

"Not a single person was marched into a gas chamber and killed," Miller told the survivors.

"They died from abject neglect," retorted community activist Leah Hodges. "We left body bags behind."

Angry evacuees described being trapped in temporary shelters where one New Orleans resident said she was "one sunrise from being consumed by maggots and flies." Another woman said military troops focused machine gun laser targets on her granddaughter's forehead. Others said their families were called racial epithets by police.

"No one is going to tell me it wasn't a race issue," said New Orleans evacuee Patricia Thompson, 53, who is now living in College Station, Texas. "Yes, it was an issue of race. Because of one thing: when the city had pretty much been evacuated, the people that were left there mostly was black."

Not all lawmakers seemed persuaded.

"I don't want to be offensive when you've gone though such incredible challenges," said Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn. But referring to some of the victims' charges, like the gun pointed at the girl, Shays said: "I just don't frankly believe it."

"You believe what you want," Thompson said.

The hearing was held by a special House committee, chaired by Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., investigating the government's preparations and response to Katrina. It was requested by Rep. Cynthia McKinney, D-Ga., a member of the Congressional Black Caucus.

"Racism is something we don't like to talk about, but we have to acknowledge it," McKinney said. "And the world saw the effects of American-style racism in the drama as it was outplayed by the Katrina survivors."

The five white and two black lawmakers who attended the hearing mostly sat quietly during two and a half hours of testimony. But tempers flared when evacuees were asked by Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., to not compare shelter conditions to a concentration camp.

"I'm going to call it what it is," said Hodges. "That is the only thing I could compare what we went through to."

Of five black evacuees who testified, only one said he believed the sluggish response was the product of bad government planning for poor residents — not racism.


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Houses severely damaged by Hurricane Katrina are seen in the New Orleans East 
neighborhood in New Orleans, Monday, Dec. 5, 2005. The proposal by the
Urban Land Institute to rebuilding New Orleans, smacks of racism to certain local leaders. 
The proposal focuses available resources on the least damaged neighborhoods first, 
while carefully studying whether it makes sense to repopulate areas that flooded worst. 

(AP Photo/Chitose Suzuki) MLive.com

1 posted on 12/06/2005 3:25:07 PM PST by quantim
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To: quantim
These pathetic weaklings couldn't walk 12 miles into the next town where plenty of food and shelter were??

What the hell happened to self-reliance in this country?

2 posted on 12/06/2005 3:27:58 PM PST by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- America, we get the best government corporations can buy.)
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To: quantim

Thank Mr. Nagin and Ms. Blank-o, you jerks.


3 posted on 12/06/2005 3:29:44 PM PST by brivette
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To: Centurion2000

All I remember is all the cars in the ninth ward that were underwater--and wondered why the hell those people didn't get their fat butts in those cars and get out of town.


4 posted on 12/06/2005 3:30:45 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: quantim

Maybe this will be the final straw that will break the back of the 'race' card.

REDICULOUS it is!


5 posted on 12/06/2005 3:30:50 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: quantim

AND where was the Governor and Mayor of N.O.? I thought every state had a plan....no????? How foolish of me to think that....

Where was Kerry, Kennedy, clinton, boxer, and the rest of the koolaid crowd????? How about the Hollywood crowd....little babs, alex baby, oh yeah thats right, someone brought a boat down and ruined his motor...how foolish of me to forget that....

Oh yes, NOW I remember, IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!! How foolish to think that people can manage on their own and survive, nope they have to have the PRESIDENT there to hold their hand...how foolish of me to forget!


6 posted on 12/06/2005 3:31:41 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: quantim
"Yes, it was an issue of race. Because of one thing: when the city had pretty much been evacuated, the people that were left there mostly was black."

Bone head! You had the better part of a weeks warning to get out. You could have easily taken a bus out of town before the storm hit. Thats the problem with expecting cradle to grave government handouts to solve your every problem. GET OVER IT! IT WAS YOUR OWN STUPID FAULT FOR NOT LEAVING!

7 posted on 12/06/2005 3:33:54 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: quantim
"No one is going to tell me it wasn't a race issue," said New Orleans evacuee Patricia Thompson, 53, who is now living in College Station, Texas. "Yes, it was an issue of race. Because of one thing: when the city had pretty much been evacuated, the people that were left there mostly was black."

White people mostly evacuated themselves [by autokinesis] ... many black people waited to be "rescued" by someone else.

New Orleans was almost 70% black ... isn't it natural that a predominantly black city would have predominantly black people left over at most "events"?

Let's move on to something worthwhile ... like rebuilding lives and rebuilding the city. Hurricane Katrina is over.

8 posted on 12/06/2005 3:35:20 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: quantim

I have been to Dachau, I find this comparison absolutely appalling. Did any "armed guards" tell them "Arbeit macht Frei? I didn't read of anyone committing suicide because there was no hope of rescue, I didn't see any ovens at the superdome or convention center for throwing people in, or showers hooked up to exhaust systems to gas people. I am sick of hearing about racism after being hit by a category 5 hurricane, after they were ordered to a mandatory evacuation.


9 posted on 12/06/2005 3:41:38 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (I have a drink at night for my heart. Yeah, my heart, that's it.)
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To: All

These whackjobs hit every leftwing point imaginable. Halliburton, racism, concentration camps, shooting people when they left their homes, blowing up the levees, ethnic cleansing and no telling what else during the hearings.


10 posted on 12/06/2005 3:43:35 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: caryatid

The welfare scum Of New Orleans were taught from cradle to grave by Democrats not to help themselves.
Katrina 'victim's are their own worse enemy.


11 posted on 12/06/2005 3:45:33 PM PST by Duffboy
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12 posted on 12/06/2005 3:47:39 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: caryatid
That was the single most uncivilized hearing I have ever seen in the Congress of the United States. It was also insulting.

With that kind of irrational anger there is no doubt about how New Orleans became one of the least safe places in the nation, with one of the highest murder rates.
13 posted on 12/06/2005 3:48:46 PM PST by billhilly (John Murtha, ex Marine. Leading the charge of the Demoquits.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

I agree. The reference to the laser on the grandaughter's forehead.........sounds like she was 4 and in pigtails. Bet she was in her 20's and an a..hole.


14 posted on 12/06/2005 3:48:55 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: billhilly
That was the single most uncivilized hearing I have ever seen in the Congress of the United States. It was also insulting.

Yes it was a all time low.

15 posted on 12/06/2005 3:50:21 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: quantim

If the prospect of freedom couldn't make these people start walking north over 150 years ago, why would a category 5 hurricane?

Even fish know to walk out of a muddy puddle when their fins are stiff enough!


16 posted on 12/06/2005 3:50:50 PM PST by Mrs. Shawnlaw (Rock beats scissors, don't run with rocks. NRA)
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To: quantim

bump


17 posted on 12/06/2005 3:51:42 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: quantim

investigating ...requested by Rep. Cynthia McKinney, D-Ga., a member of the Congressional Black Caucus.

Okay. Read enough right there. She's the real racist pig in this pen.


18 posted on 12/06/2005 3:52:02 PM PST by Mrs. Shawnlaw (Rock beats scissors, don't run with rocks. NRA)
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To: HarleyLady27

someone brought a boat down and ruined his motor...how foolish of me to forget that....

This guy Penn?

19 posted on 12/06/2005 3:53:00 PM PST by quantim (Detroit is the New Orleans of the north, settled by the French and ruined by liberals.)
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To: billhilly

Cynthia McKenny called for this -- so no shock the outcome, bet she hand-picked the people who testified.


20 posted on 12/06/2005 3:53:21 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: quantim
Cynthia McKinney, continuing her role as the conscience of Congress.

It wouldn't hurt if she would learn the meaning of the word "outplay" (as in "the Chargers outplayed the Raiders").

21 posted on 12/06/2005 3:56:43 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: freema

I more easily believe that the story is totally made up. Our armed forces are trained better than that. Besides, to point the laser they would have to be aiming their rifle. Which, I think, would be a much better story. ie the photo of Elian Gonzalez being taken from the home.

I feel so sorry for the children that were stuck in NO because their stupid caretakers didn't get off their arses and leave. I went through the missing children photos almost daily, and most of the children missing got "separated from their caretakers" in their description of circumstances. That also made me wonder if the caretakers somehow saved themselves and not the children they were responsible for. I also wondered where the parents were.


22 posted on 12/06/2005 3:58:35 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (I have a drink at night for my heart. Yeah, my heart, that's it.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

As in, the Seahawks outplayed the living sh!t out of the Eagles . . .


23 posted on 12/06/2005 3:58:38 PM PST by Caveman Lawyer
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To: quantim

I thought Frank Zappa was dead. Why is he bailing out a pirogue with a go-cup?


24 posted on 12/06/2005 4:02:09 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Armed, Female and Southern!)
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To: quantim
When Pompeii was destroyed in 79 A.D., the populace fled. When confronted with an oncoming disaster, like a forest fire, wild animals flee. Why couldn't these people at least take what they could carry and leave as quickly as possible?
25 posted on 12/06/2005 4:03:43 PM PST by jmcenanly
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To: quantim
Black survivors of Hurricane Katrina said Tuesday that racism contributed to the slow disaster response, at times likening themselves in emotional congressional testimony to victims of genocide and the Holocaust.

These people are beyond pathetic. Figures that dipstick RINO Christopher Shays would be at this hearing.

26 posted on 12/06/2005 4:04:21 PM PST by Godebert
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To: WV Mountain Mama
If the shelters were anything like the concentration camps these idiots would be dead.They must be too stupid to realize how dumb the comparison sounds to the people with a functioning brain.The senate security officers should have tossed these dirt-bags in the trash after they made such an ignorant statement.
27 posted on 12/06/2005 4:07:38 PM PST by rdcorso (There Is No Such Thing As A Neutral Person During A War With Radical Islam.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
",,bet she hand-picked the people who testified."

I understand the name of the game. That is part of Blanco's "National Surrogates" game plan. This whole thing is playing out according to plan, and its transparency is obvious to all, but played in full view anyway.

The Democrats can always get a pass from the critics. The first admendment is grand, is it not?
28 posted on 12/06/2005 4:09:55 PM PST by billhilly (John Murtha, ex Marine. Leading the charge of the Demoquits.)
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To: quantim

"Godwin's law
(From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.)

Godwin's Law (also Godwin's Rule of Nazi analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990.

The law states that:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.

Although the law does not specifically mention it, there is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress.

It is considered poor form to arbitrarily raise such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely-recognized codicil that any such deliberate invocation of Godwin's law will be unsuccessful."


Racist Liberals Lose.


29 posted on 12/06/2005 4:13:07 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rdcorso

I wonder what will happen when all these dopes are sitting in their beautiful habitat homes and another hurricane comes and they are ordered to evacuate. I am betting they will once again go to the convention center and superdome, IF they leave their houses. Do I have any takers? No? I'm shocked!


30 posted on 12/06/2005 4:13:28 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (I have a drink at night for my heart. Yeah, my heart, that's it.)
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To: quantim
Thanks for the post. These people are obviously geniuses and we should all listen to them. They couldn't even find the bus station.
31 posted on 12/06/2005 4:14:28 PM PST by brooklin
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To: quantim

These people don't believe that crap it's all democrat racist posturing. Who got their sorry asses out of there and how soon? It sure wasn't the black mayor, etc.


32 posted on 12/06/2005 4:16:50 PM PST by Williams
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To: quantim

How many tens of thousands of cars, trucks and SUVs have the auto insurance industry estimated were destroyed,sitting in car ports and garages in the Ninth Ward and elsewhere? Every photo of the scenes of devastation shows vehicles that should have been GONE. If these apathetic people had driven them out of NO, they wouldn't have had to go to the Dome or the overpasses. But this group will always find someone other than themselves to blame for their lazy, ignorant choices.


33 posted on 12/06/2005 4:18:12 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: quantim
"Racism is something we don't like to talk about, but we have to acknowledge it," McKinney said

This moon bat actually said this? McKinney talks about racism like crack heads talk about crack

34 posted on 12/06/2005 4:21:13 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
... most of the children missing got "separated from their caretakers" in their description of circumstances. ...

To be fair, it was reported that there were instances of Rescue workers demanding that all babies and little ones be passed overhead to be the first on rescue vehicles.

I wondered at the time how any breathing, thinking, parent would allow a child out of their grasp like that.

I suspect that there was mass hysteria and I suspect that many of those hysterical folks were on the lower end of the educational scale. That is a recipe for disaster.

None of this makes the situation any less sad.

That also made me wonder if the caretakers somehow saved themselves and not the children they were responsible for.

It would appear that many tried to save neither themselves nor the children in their care. Unfathomable.

35 posted on 12/06/2005 4:21:32 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: Popman
McKinney talks about racism like crack heads talk about crack...

It's the only arrow in her quiver.

36 posted on 12/06/2005 4:26:02 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: quantim
"Because of one thing: when the city had pretty much been evacuated, the people that were left there mostly was black."

I saw Nagin on TV saying 'git your ass out of town.' He didn't say, 'white people git your ass out of town.' I think we have an IQ issue here, not race.

37 posted on 12/06/2005 4:27:35 PM PST by blam
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To: Godebert

Like him or not he is about the only one up there to call those idiots on what they were saying. I'm no Shays fan but on this one he was right on.


38 posted on 12/06/2005 4:29:45 PM PST by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: jmcenanly

"Why couldn't these people at least take what they could carry and leave as quickly as possible?"

Because they do not act until being told what to do by their government masters, to be blunt. It is really hard to blame some of them, because self reliance has not been required of them for such a long time.When I refer to "some of them" I'm speaking exclusively of the people left behind in New Orleans. I know I stand to be accused of racism for statements like that, but that is not the case. It is really hard to be honest when it comes to race issues.


39 posted on 12/06/2005 4:31:36 PM PST by billhilly (John Murtha, ex Marine. Leading the charge of the Demoquits.)
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To: Popman

FNC just played a clip from the hearing, scary. In a way it is hard to blame these 'victims' since it was government that created this mentality in the first place. They (we) get the government they deserve.

Liberals and dems seem to do rather well in making messes that get people killed.


40 posted on 12/06/2005 4:33:02 PM PST by quantim (Detroit is the New Orleans of the north, settled by the French and ruined by liberals.)
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To: quantim

[[Leah Hodges, a community activist, recalled trying to help a group of stranded senior citizens. The military took them to an evacuation point on a highway where they spent the night, awakening to a "bunch of hard red necks scowling and growling at us in military uniforms.]]

I'm sure that NOBODY had the balls to call this creep on using a racial slur against whites during this hearing. Blacks are not held accountable for much in this country.


41 posted on 12/06/2005 4:35:34 PM PST by Buffettfan
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To: caryatid
The Superdome was to be used as a shelter of last resort. There was a mandatory evacuation that these "victims" chose to ignore. During Ivan, the New Orleans officials used the Superdome as a shelter. This is a report after the threat of Ivan passed..... ____________________________________________________________
http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/091604ccjrwwlnightinbowl.122e8d1b2.html
A night in the Superdome: 'This is the best I've eaten in a while'

05:23 PM CDT on Thursday, September 16, 2004

-snip- These are the last people anyone worried about. The poor, the homeless, the aged, the infirm. People with nowhere to go and no way to get there. Stranded and frightened, they finally found shelter in the Louisiana Superdome and rode out Hurricane Ivan in a joyless night, uncomfortable, but at least safe. "This isn't the place I want to be, but it's the place I'm very grateful to be," said Leonard Cooper, a homeless man.

The Red Cross, which once set up shelters in New Orleans, will no longer do so for storms ranked higher than a Category 2. The organization ruled the city, which lies well below sea level, unsafe for bigger storms and said evacuation was the only sure was to survive such hurricanes.

In New Orleans that leaves a large population of poor, those who rely on public transportation, and the homeless stranded when hurricanes threaten.

"I wanted to evacuate," joked Fred Wilson. "But my chauffeur was off today."

The city opened part of the Superdome for medical refugees Wednesday morning. It opened up for general refugees between 3 p.m. and 5 p.m. Dome officials kept the doors open until 6:30. But that time 1,100 people were in the 72,000-seat stadium.

They were confined to one end zone and the concourse behind it. Although they were told to bring food, drinks and blankets with them, only a few families did. The majority of the refugees were homeless and had nothing to bring.

Superdome general manager Doug Thornton laid down the ground rules early: be polite, put trash in the bins, keep the restrooms clean, smoke only in the designated area.

The sheriff's office sent over spaghetti and meatballs for dinner. It was served with a slice of white bread.

"This is the best I've eaten in a while," said Joe Maris, as he lined up for thirds.

Catholic Charities sent over a big supply of bottled water which was available in the concourse. There were also oatmeal bars, chips, orange juice, snack-size pudding and 8,000 packages of cheese crackers. Dome officials worried about the trash and decided to give each person a bag of food in the morning as they left rather than distribute it immediately.

The concourse was constant activity. People went in and out of the bathrooms, smokers headed in and out to smoke, children wandered around looking. A man with one shoe on walked up and down holding his enlarged stomach. An old man asked a National Guardsman if he could get a cane.

"I lost mine and sometimes I fall over without one," he said. People smiled and talked. A woman helped the old woman next to her spread out a blanket. Another held a baby for the mother so she could eat.

At 9 p.m. Thornton got on his cell phone trying to get a doctor to come from the medical evacuation area to the general area. Two men were having seizures, suspected to be from drug withdrawal. Charmaine Wallace was worried about her 7-month-old baby, Charel.

The baby had a 101 fever, was coughing and had a rash on her cheeks.

An hour later mother and baby were loaded into an ambulance and taken to Charity Hospital, just blocks away. The two men left in other ambulances.

Arthur Feldman left on his own. He didn't like the food and the Superdome was too cold.

The temperature was 65 degrees. The building was being cooled for the Saints game against the San Francisco 49ers on Sunday.

"If we warm it up, we won't have enough time to cool it back down before the game," said Thornton, who was besieged by shivering refugees with questions about the promised blankets.

Thornton and Gen. Ralph Lupin began phoning the National Guard headquarters and the Red Cross headquarters, trying to secure blankets.

At 9:30 a representative of the Office of Emergency Preparedness agreed to deliver them if someone would take responsibility for making sure they were returned. The general and Thornton agree to pay for any not turned back in.

The only other time the Superdome was used as a shelter, in 1998, people raided the luxury suites before leaving, taking furniture and televisions. This time 300 National Guardsmen were on patrol and there were no problems.

At 11 p.m. the blankets arrived. By 11:15 people began finding places to sleep.

The lights were dim in the seating area. People there wrapped themselves in blankets and tried to get comfortable. Because the armrests don't move, people had to sit in one seat and drape their legs over the armrest into another. Others lay on the floor in front of the seats.

"I should have stayed home," said LaShone Johnson. "This is the first time I ever came to a shelter and I'll never do it again. A lot of these people haven't bathed in a while. It doesn't smell too good in here."

In the concourse the lights were bright. National guardsmen patrolled as people lay on the brick floor along the wall outside the restrooms. John Davis wrapped up behind the beer counter.

"At least no one will step on me here," he said.

Just down the isle, a man lay talking to himself in a loud voice as he has been all evening.

By midnight people had settled down. It was not quiet. Babies cried, mothers yelled at youngsters, sleepers moaned and shouted as dreams or discomfort prompted, a constant parade of people climbed up and down the steps going to the bathrooms.

The hours crept by until the National Guard started bringing in the breakfast bags and people began getting up, looking tired and uncomfortable. Blankets were turned in. Many of the homeless hurried off to the agency that hires temporary workers each morning. Families gathered their belongings and headed to the street, waiting for the buses to take them back to their neighborhoods. They were greeted by bright sunshine and gentle breezes, Ivan had bypassed the city.

"I'm glad we could come," said D'Artagnan Wilson, who came with his wife, mother-in-law and five children. "We wanted to evacuate, but we both had to work right up until yesterday. And my wife didn't think our apartment would be safe in a big storm. It was uncomfortable, but at least it was safe."
42 posted on 12/06/2005 4:44:14 PM PST by LA Woman3 ("Don't blame me......I voted for Jindal" www.lagop.com)
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I'm sick of these whiners. Maybe if they spent all the hours a day they whine about "racism" doing something productive they wouldn't be stuck in the situation they have found themselves in.

This though is the predictable result of decades of liberal policy. It creates adult children who look to the government for everything, and who rather than work to improve their situation would rather sit around and blame others for not giving them more and more handouts. Nothing is their fault. Drop out of school? Blame whitey! Have a kid at 18? Blame whitey? Don't have a good job! Blame whitey! Not enough blacks volunteer for the red cross? Blame whitey!


43 posted on 12/06/2005 5:00:35 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: pepperhead

Another great story from the Ass(ociated) Press.


44 posted on 12/06/2005 5:01:51 PM PST by Luke21 (Political correctness is the insane religion of our rulers.)
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To: Centurion2000

While I agree there was an appalling lack of personal responsibility by some prior to Katrina hitting New Orleans, I'm curious as to just what town, 12 miles away, you are referring. Food and shelter could have been found possibly 120 miles away, but most certainly NOT 12 miles.


45 posted on 12/06/2005 5:03:10 PM PST by Ima Lurker
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To: quantim
"No one is going to tell me it wasn't a race issue," said New Orleans evacuee Patricia Thompson

It wasn't a race issue.

46 posted on 12/06/2005 5:04:54 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: quantim

Here we go again. Wanna bet if this had happened during the Clinton administration there would be no cry of racism? Don't you just wanna puke?


47 posted on 12/06/2005 5:06:03 PM PST by ladyinred (RIP dear Texas Cowboy, you will be missed.)
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

How dare you say that about McKinney - with all she and her family have done to curb anti-semitism in this country.


48 posted on 12/06/2005 5:06:36 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: billhilly
That was the single most uncivilized hearing I have ever seen in the Congress of the United States. It was also insulting.

When even Christopher Shays turns down a chance to stab the GOP in the back by agreeing with their wild accusations, it should tell these people something.

49 posted on 12/06/2005 5:09:11 PM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: rdcorso

"If the shelters were anything like the concentration camps these idiots would be dead."

Concentration vitims were "worked" to death, they weren't 300+lb. folks that sat on their duffs waiting to be fed. There is no comparison here at all.


50 posted on 12/06/2005 5:14:51 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2008, if elected YOU DESERVE HER (and HIM! AGAIN!))
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