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To: DarkSavant
Creation, on the other hand, is the radical causing of the whole existence of whatever exists. To cause completely something to exist is not to produce a change in something, is not to work on or with some existing material. If, in producing something new, an agent were to use something already existing, the agent would not be the complete cause of the new thing. But such complete causing is precisely what creation is.

This means that Intelligent Designer is seemingly a demotion for the Creator, putting Him on the same level as the intelligent saboteur Satan.

11 posted on 12/07/2005 1:25:28 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (Hoc ad delectationem stultorum scriptus est)
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To: Dumb_Ox
This means that Intelligent Designer is seemingly a demotion for the Creator

It seems to me that the Creator must also be the ultimate Designer. Nevertheless, the notion may also be acceptable to non-monotheistic faiths.

16 posted on 12/08/2005 5:59:34 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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