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Diebold insider blows whistle
volesoft ^ | 07 December 2005 | Nick Farrell

Posted on 12/07/2005 6:38:58 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

WHISTLEBLOWER interviewed by voting rights advocate Brad Friedman [www.BradBlog.com] has claimed that the electronic voting machine maker Diebold is involved in all sorts of skullduggery.

The Diebold insider said he was once a staunch supporter of electronic voting but was stunned by seeing repeated efforts by Diebold to evade meeting legal requirements or implementing appropriate security measures.

(Excerpt) Read more at volesoft.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: blackhelicopter; conspiracytheory; diebold; electronicvoting; libloonies
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*sigh* Be prepared to see this on the liberal media very shortly. With this making the rounds of all the whacko blogs it'll be picked up by the press very shortly.

I hope we're all prepared for the chatter and insanity.

1 posted on 12/07/2005 6:39:00 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Yeah, I believe this as much as I believe John Kerry... self-proclaimed Vietnam hero.


2 posted on 12/07/2005 6:40:46 PM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

so far he hasn't really said anything. But the Daily Kos and the DUmmies will pick this up.


3 posted on 12/07/2005 6:41:47 PM PST by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

John Kerry was in Vietnam? You know you would think he would have mentioned that!


4 posted on 12/07/2005 6:42:23 PM PST by Holicheese (Would you like a beer? No thanks, I will have a bud light.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Lets at least get the headline right...

Pi$$ed off loser ex-employee of Diebold throws company under bus as revenge...


5 posted on 12/07/2005 6:42:51 PM PST by xcamel (a system poltergeist stole it.)
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To: Perdogg

I know.

It's not the nature of the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge.


6 posted on 12/07/2005 6:43:37 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What was the role of this Diebold "insider"?


7 posted on 12/07/2005 6:44:26 PM PST by oblomov
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Of course Diebold is rigging all the voting machines. It is part of the Bush plan to destroy the United States and turn us into U.N. slaves.

Well, at least this is what two people on this website believe.

8 posted on 12/07/2005 6:44:28 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

We should be used to it by now. The "other side" is mostly chatter and insanity.

A pretty big article title for an article that says nothing, too.


9 posted on 12/07/2005 6:44:29 PM PST by Theresawithanh (You'll get me to stop posting on FR when you wrench my laptop from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Did I miss it or was the "whistleblower" not named?


10 posted on 12/07/2005 6:44:32 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Subheadline:

DUmmies suffer near fatal orgasm over shocking revelations of rigged voting machines...


11 posted on 12/07/2005 6:45:17 PM PST by xcamel (a system poltergeist stole it.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
This story has been around for a year and a half.

An invisible unnamed possible source who may or may not have worked for Diebold makes nebulous accusations of possible alleged foul play.

It won't be on the news, unless Dan Rather finds a job.

12 posted on 12/07/2005 6:45:32 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The Diebold insider said he was once a staunch supporter of electronic voting but was stunned by seeing repeated efforts by Diebold to evade meeting legal requirements or implementing appropriate security measures

Sounds like he's one of those phony seminar callers to C-SPAN who always start out by saying that "I've been a conservative Republican for twenty five years, but George Bush and his Zionist masters have finally gone too far and so I must speak out against him"...

13 posted on 12/07/2005 6:46:01 PM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: xcamel

LMAO...too good.


14 posted on 12/07/2005 6:46:04 PM PST by indcons ("You are perceptive...you're so right." El Rushbo to indcons (12/7/2005))
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To: Holicheese
The Dems will do anything to keep paper. They can fill out the required paper ballots weeks after the fact while watching Oprah, then conveniently "find" them in a warehouse. E-Voting compresses the time available for such shenanigans to nil.
15 posted on 12/07/2005 6:47:17 PM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Ah! So that's how they (Democrats) were able to manipulate the voting machines in Philly!


16 posted on 12/07/2005 6:49:26 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

save


17 posted on 12/07/2005 6:51:18 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

If you read this thing closely, and it's an effort, you'll see that it really doesn't say anything.

Try it. Go through and pick out the "bullets," if you can.


18 posted on 12/07/2005 6:51:27 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I wouldn't doubt that some of these machines *are* rigged. For the democrats.


19 posted on 12/07/2005 6:51:33 PM PST by Theo
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Mysteriously Georgia voted in its first Republican Governor. . .

Nothing mysterious about it, of course. . .

The real mystery here is 'why is it always the sleaze Party that 'discovers' sleaze. . .believe this is the Liberal version of 'sow. . .reap'. . .

20 posted on 12/07/2005 6:52:35 PM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

A number of computer security people have come out against E-voting machines.


21 posted on 12/07/2005 6:54:13 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: xcamel

They have orgasms?


22 posted on 12/07/2005 6:54:52 PM PST by neodad (My ex-wife is stuck on stupid.)
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To: COEXERJ145
Of course Diebold is rigging all the voting machines. It is part of the Bush plan to destroy the United States and turn us into U.N. slaves.

Just because an alleged attempt was made, does not imply that the attempt was successful.

For example, if the software were written such that if 150 thousand votes had been tablulated, each 10,000 democratic vote causes the total Democratic votes to be multiplied by 1.15 (up 15%), while each 10,000th vote by the Republicans causes the total Republican votes to be multiplied by 0.85 (down 15%).

This number would be high enough such that only an intensive (ie. non-humanly verifieable) testing method would catch it; and the total numbers at the end of the night would make 'sense' with the recorded number of voters.

Perhaps President Bush 'really' won 68% of the total vote, instead of 51%.

23 posted on 12/07/2005 6:55:32 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

24 posted on 12/07/2005 6:55:54 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: oblomov
What was the role of this Diebold "insider"?

Toilet janitor, fourth floor.
You can't believe the conversations you overhear at the urinals.

25 posted on 12/07/2005 6:55:59 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Unfortunately the patch was not approved by the state of Georgia and it didn't actually repair one of the things that were wrong with the machine. Mysteriously Georgia voted in its first Republican governor. Diebold's chairman Wally O’Dell is a key fundraiser for President Bush.

As if the extreme leftist ideology on the national DemocRAT party had nothing to do with voters in Georgia voting for a Republican governor.

26 posted on 12/07/2005 6:56:06 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
A real news story would be a disgruntled ex-employee who insisted Diebold was scrupulously honest
27 posted on 12/07/2005 6:56:34 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Theo
I wouldn't doubt that some of these machines *are* rigged. For the democrats.

Except in Washington state, where they simply 'manufacture' enough ballots to win after the votes are counted and tabulated the night before.

28 posted on 12/07/2005 6:56:42 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The shelf life of these tinfoiled hat theories just amazes me. They go away and then are resurrected with a new twist. I think that the Rats have an Office of Recycled Theories located next to the Office of Recycled Demagogues.
29 posted on 12/07/2005 6:56:48 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Gee, you think if we claim that Herr Friedman is involved in underhanded skullduggery (and offer absolutely no evidence to back it up) that those same people who take Herr Friedman's word as gospel will take our charges seriously?

Uh-huh...I didn't think so.

30 posted on 12/07/2005 6:56:58 PM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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To: Theo
I wouldn't doubt that some of these machines *are* rigged. For the democrats.

We cannot be surprised here. . .not even as to how they craft this into a Republican strategy. . .

I am sure Hillary is counting on these machines and a number of other machiavellian machinations - no doubt already in the works. . .to guarantee her power seat.

31 posted on 12/07/2005 6:56:59 PM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
After following the links and reading the actual complaints, I'm not really seeing any allegations that add up to anything more than incompetence.

Which is a problem, of course. I'd be more inclined to worry about illegal votes from people who shouldn't be allowed.

Like felons. Or the dead.

After we tighten the screws on outright voting fraud, then I'll worry more about garden variety incompetence from equipment manufacturers.

32 posted on 12/07/2005 6:57:07 PM PST by Steel Wolf (* No sleep till Baghdad! *)
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To: SandRat

^^^^^^^^^Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?^^^^^^^^^^

Family.


33 posted on 12/07/2005 6:57:45 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I like to tell liberals every now and then that I used to work for diebold and helped rig elections.

Scary part is, they are always really quick to believe me.

34 posted on 12/07/2005 6:58:03 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The other headline on this page is "Cats in Halifax, Nova Scotia have a very high probability of having six toes!"


35 posted on 12/07/2005 6:59:27 PM PST by DGray (http://nicanfhilidh.blogspot.com)
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To: Paleo Conservative

How hard can it be to write a program that records votes? It's not splitting the atom.


36 posted on 12/07/2005 6:59:28 PM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Actually, whether or not Diebold is actually doing anything nefarious or not, there's nothing wrong with improving the security, transparency and integrity of the voting system. And hysteria over the issue is a useful way to justify and motivate whatever needs to be done to reduce/eliminate the sort of election fraud that Democrats are famous for.

And whenever Republicans lose elections they should have won, this story provides great ammunition to throw in the faces of the Dhims.

37 posted on 12/07/2005 7:01:18 PM PST by sourcery (Either the Constitution trumps stare decisis, or else the Constitution is a dead letter.)
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To: Charles Henrickson; KJC1; commonguymd
How will DU get the word of Diebold vote fraud out with out (verified paper ballots) ANDY!!!

Tune in next week for the newest "I Believe" soap opera on DU!

Will John Kerry finally become president?

Will George bush finally be impeached?

Will Tom Delay be convicted?

Will Karl Rove be frog marched to jail?

Stay tuned kids.... it will be a nail biting week of highs and lows on the DU!

This update is sponsored by Zoloft, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Lexapro, Celexa, and Prozac.

For times when you just can't face the reality of being well.... a DUmmie!

38 posted on 12/07/2005 7:03:07 PM PST by Repub4bush (("We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail."-Pres George W. Bush, Sept 20, 2001))
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To: ozoneliar
A number of computer security people have come out against E-voting machines.

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Yeah Dude. Like I heard that the Dude that invented the Internet is even opposed to E-voting man.

39 posted on 12/07/2005 7:07:10 PM PST by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I love this line:

This corroborates a claim by Diebold contractor Rob Behler that a program patch titled 'rob-georgia.zip'

Makes it sound like the patch was "riggedgeorgiaelection.zip" when its probably his own rejected design.

40 posted on 12/07/2005 7:16:45 PM PST by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: Hodar

I was being sarcastic and making fun of a couple of people here who actually believe it.


41 posted on 12/07/2005 7:30:30 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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To: cripplecreek

"Did I miss it or was the "whistleblower" not named?"

Not named. Calls himself Dieb Throat.


42 posted on 12/07/2005 7:31:56 PM PST by strategofr
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To: Steel Wolf

"After following the links and reading the actual complaints, I'm not really seeing any allegations that add up to anything more than incompetence."

Nonetheless, I think it would be good if voting machines were manufactured via an "open" model---i.e.--all hardware and software made public.

This would raise the price since the manufacturer would not lose competitive advantage over any features included in the machines. But it would be worth it.

Trust in the electoral process is central (even though the Dems do systematically cheat.)


43 posted on 12/07/2005 7:37:22 PM PST by strategofr
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

If W is reelected again in 2008-I would say these loonies may have a legitimate case.


44 posted on 12/07/2005 7:45:41 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
A POINT (or two) OF CONTENTION HERE, FROM AN INSIDE SOURCE:

I WAS one of the network technicians for Diebold in Georgia during the '04 elections. We tested, retested, and then restested these machines again. With double-blind test cards. Jeezus, we were meticulous in making sure everything went off without a hitch, right down to verifying the integrity of the remote connections we'd have to establish to the Secretary of States's office to send the final tallies. (We smoked their server and had to wait a week for them to upgrade the modem bank before we tried again.) And none of us were 'career' Diebold employees with a vested interest in rigging the voting - we were guns-for-hire with every manner of political persuasion and from every background. These machines are sealed, tagged, and stored in a secure place (such as a courthouse) between every election. No one is alone with them. Every machine is tracked. They can't be spirited away in the middle of the night. If Diebold was applying patches, or altering the software, it would take a conspiracy on multiple levels to even attempt it.

Given the souce of this story, WTF am I even trying to defend the system again for? It's just more Area 51 bullshit from the tinfoil hat crowd that are bored watching their X-Files DVD's in Mama's basement.


45 posted on 12/07/2005 7:54:21 PM PST by Viking2002 (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: artscenter

"Are you ready to give up all your voting rights and eventually to have ALL elections decided by ONE person's vote?"

Yes. It would save a lot of wasted worker productivity on election day.


47 posted on 12/07/2005 8:02:27 PM PST by frankjr
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Ya know, Diebold has about 60% of the domestic US market in ATMs. I would think that a company in a market in which its customers are concerned about honest, secure transactions would be very careful about doing something that would damage their reputation.


48 posted on 12/07/2005 8:03:54 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: artscenter

Sorry, the alternative is marking an 'X' on a piece of paper and that ain't gonna happen.

After watching the Democrat fools from Palm Beach County count every freakin' chad that they could, I'm convinced that electronic voting can be safer and more foolproof than the paper alternatives.


50 posted on 12/07/2005 8:09:21 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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