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Man's best friend shares most genes with humans
The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Carl T. Hall

Posted on 12/08/2005 7:12:49 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger

Scientists are publishing today the complete DNA sequence that makes a dog a dog, and it turns out to be uncannily close to what makes a person a person.

Genome sequencers at Harvard University, MIT and their affiliated Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research in Cambridge, Mass., led an international team of scientists through a unique landscape of doggie DNA.

About 2.4 billion chemical units of DNA define a species uniquely shaped by people ever since dogs left the wolf pack and joined our human ancestors at least 15,000 years ago. Accurately mapping the dog genome took about two years and $30 million. Canis familiaris is the latest species to have its genetic code mapped, following that of the rat, mouse, fruit fly and, most famously, the human.

A report on the work appears today in Nature, the British science journal.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: animal; canine; creation; crevolist; design; dog; doggene; doggieping; evolution; gene; pets
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So wait, now humans share DNA similarities with chimps AND dogs? I can understand a silly fallacy like the chimp DNA (which actually isn't as similar as they first said) being thought true because of their similar homology, but....dogs?

And if that isn't all, we're also very similar to the fruit fly!

1 posted on 12/08/2005 7:12:51 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger
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To: gobucks; mikeus_maximus; MeanWestTexan; JudyB1938; isaiah55version11_0; bondserv; plain talk; ...
(((Creationist Ping)))



You have been pinged because of your interest regarding matters of Creation vs. Evolution - from the Creationist perspective. Freep-mail me if you want on/off this list.

Colossians 1:16 "For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him."

2 posted on 12/08/2005 7:14:00 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger ("As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, while God is marching on.")
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To: DaveLoneRanger

"So wait, now humans share DNA similarities with chimps AND dogs?"


And a lot of other mammals... It's a really high percentage for rats too.


3 posted on 12/08/2005 7:14:31 AM PST by gondramB ( We don't get no government loan and no one sends a check from home-we just do what what we wanna)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I predict no more than 10 replys before the man-dog picture is posted.


4 posted on 12/08/2005 7:14:32 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper
I predict no more than 10 replys before the man-dog picture is posted.

You mean like BARF! from Spaceballs?
5 posted on 12/08/2005 7:16:56 AM PST by TOWER
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Already Posted Here
6 posted on 12/08/2005 7:18:23 AM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won’t back down)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
"Scientists are publishing today the complete DNA sequence that makes a dog a dog, and it turns out to be uncannily close to what makes a person a person."

No biggie!

We're also told that man shares a full 50% of the same genes as a banana!

Both organisms need a method of reproduction, etc.

7 posted on 12/08/2005 7:18:35 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Wow! That explains why my Mother-in-Law looks very similar to her English Bull Dog! Can't wait to share this info with my wife!
8 posted on 12/08/2005 7:18:43 AM PST by moasicwolf
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Man sharing genes with dogs? Yes, I believe it -- reminds me of Billy Clinton. Anywhere on anything -- never bothered Billy Boy.


9 posted on 12/08/2005 7:18:56 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: DaveLoneRanger

That clears it up - we evolved from dogs. I wonder when we branched off from the apes that also must have evolved from dogs???


10 posted on 12/08/2005 7:19:52 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: avg_freeper

11 posted on 12/08/2005 7:19:55 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Yes, and all cars are the same, too.


12 posted on 12/08/2005 7:20:40 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: TOWER

13 posted on 12/08/2005 7:21:09 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Scientists are publishing today the complete DNA sequence that makes a dog a dog, and it turns out to be uncannily close to what makes a person a person.

The Darwinists never fail to amuse me.

14 posted on 12/08/2005 7:21:23 AM PST by jla
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To: DaveLoneRanger

> I can understand a silly fallacy like the chimp DNA (which actually isn't as similar as they first said) being thought true because of their similar homology

Well, that and the same recognizable remnants of retroviral intrusions into our common gene code...

See here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1469072/posts?page=20#20


15 posted on 12/08/2005 7:23:11 AM PST by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: Dallas59

Blast! 11 replys! That's what I meant to say.


16 posted on 12/08/2005 7:23:11 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Don't be obtuse. Dogs share a very similar gene set (they are mammals after all). Chimpanzees share a 98% identical sequence. Those two things are vasty different.
17 posted on 12/08/2005 7:23:22 AM PST by Sols
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To: DaveLoneRanger

They also share food, couches, chairs, beds and toilet bowls.


18 posted on 12/08/2005 7:23:25 AM PST by bella1
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To: Dallas59
Rarely does a day go by that I don't get a real "Belly Laugh" from some of the posts on FR. Thanks Dallas59.
19 posted on 12/08/2005 7:23:25 AM PST by moasicwolf
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20 posted on 12/08/2005 7:23:56 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

21 posted on 12/08/2005 7:23:59 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I'd rather share my house with a dog than a monkey anyday.


22 posted on 12/08/2005 7:25:43 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: trebb

Don't be stupid.


23 posted on 12/08/2005 7:26:01 AM PST by Sols
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To: Dallas59

Me either.

A chimpanzee on the other hand..


24 posted on 12/08/2005 7:26:34 AM PST by Sols
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To: jla
The Darwinists never fail to amuse me.

The creationists never fail to amuse me by being unable to tell the difference between the science of genetics and the science of evolution.

25 posted on 12/08/2005 7:27:37 AM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I like to say, "If there is no God, then nature does one hell of an imitation."


26 posted on 12/08/2005 7:28:24 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Guess that setteles the question as to why dog owners look like their pets.


27 posted on 12/08/2005 7:30:55 AM PST by chemicalman (Many have skeletons in their closets. In New Orleans, we have skeletons in our attics.)
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To: Sols
Not to be disrespectful, but you're illustrating a problem in the 'advancement' of evolution. Namely, you missed the latest news, so you're still stuck repeating what they've told you before.

In fact, Chimp genome sequence is very different from man.
28 posted on 12/08/2005 7:42:45 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger ("As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, while God is marching on.")
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To: staytrue
The creationists never fail to amuse me by being unable to tell the difference between the science of genetics and the science of evolution.

Are you implying that they are exclusive of each other? Is that more convenient to you?

29 posted on 12/08/2005 7:43:09 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Sols
Don't be stupid.

Don't make such scientifically astute arguments - you might get a swollen ego when you get placed on the pedestal of scientific insight.

Woof!

30 posted on 12/08/2005 7:45:15 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Sounds like all of life was designed by the same creator.


31 posted on 12/08/2005 7:53:34 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: HairOfTheDog

ping


32 posted on 12/08/2005 7:54:13 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Lying About My Sign-Up Date Since 1998)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; Flyer; technochick99; sinkspur; annyokie; Scott from the Left Coast; 88keys; ...
This story is getting a lot of play this morning...

Ping!


Other articles with keyword "DOGGIEPING" since 12/29/04

33 posted on 12/08/2005 7:58:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Oh I apologize, I forgot the exact figure.

So 94% is very different? Did you know that the difference between mice and rats is 10 times that? Did you know that if you ignore insertions and deletions, their genomes are 99% similar? Did you know most of the differences are not considered biologically significant?


34 posted on 12/08/2005 7:59:29 AM PST by Sols
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To: trebb

This story is about genetics, not evolution.

While the two are related, they are very distinct.


35 posted on 12/08/2005 8:07:50 AM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Pointing to genetic similarities between species may just mean certain sequences are necessary for carbon based life. Sort of like noticing similarities between boats built by different builders on different sides of the planet.
36 posted on 12/08/2005 8:19:56 AM PST by fso301
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To: staytrue

Scientists are amusing. We're similar to chimps, dogs, fruit flies, but no chance at all we had the same creator. LOL I would expect real scientists to be more logical.


37 posted on 12/08/2005 8:21:21 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: billorites

Why did you post a picture of Helen Thomas?


38 posted on 12/08/2005 8:39:20 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Note for visitors at Arafat's grave - first dance, THEN pee.)
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To: trebb

The strange part of this is that most of our elected officals have a vast amount of genes traced back to the Doo-Doo bird. Soory to insult the Doo-Doo bird but the truth must be told.


39 posted on 12/08/2005 8:40:08 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: chiefqc

Mammalian systems are remarkably similar, hence it's not surprising that we should share many genes. From a broader perspective, all life on planet earth coexists in the same environment and hence would share genes to various degrees.

Many Japanese cars also have many parts in common (ie digital clocks, etc), yet nobody wants to argue that they arose from a common ancestor.

Similarity of design does not imply similarity of origin unless you presuppose evolutionary theory to be true.


40 posted on 12/08/2005 8:45:33 AM PST by Old_Mil (Vive la Frog!)
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To: Dallas59

Best picture of Dr. Phil so far!!!

41 posted on 12/08/2005 8:48:00 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: chiefqc

Is the Doo-Doo bird in any way related to the Ooh-Ooh bird?


42 posted on 12/08/2005 8:53:55 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Oh, you said "genes."

43 posted on 12/08/2005 8:54:27 AM PST by shezza (63 days!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

What's really interesting is that leading Democrats (the Clintons, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Algore, et al) have all been found to share 99.99999% common genes with the typical horse's ass......


44 posted on 12/08/2005 9:15:32 AM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: fso301
Pointing to genetic similarities between species may just mean certain sequences are necessary for carbon based life. Sort of like noticing similarities between boats built by different builders on different sides of the planet.

Exactly, and that's why God used those genetic sequences, because they were so efficient. That certainly was INTELLIGENT of Him wasn't it?
45 posted on 12/08/2005 9:18:26 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: nightdriver

And a chair shares alot of the characteristics of a table, etc. Why should anyone be surprised that the things that make organisms work would be similar throughout all of them?
susie


46 posted on 12/08/2005 9:42:44 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: mlc9852

That's what it kinda points to to me. I was wondering exactly how to say that. Thank you!
susie


47 posted on 12/08/2005 9:45:27 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Well, the same anticholineesteratics work on both[phosphororganic pesticides on flies and sarins/VX'es on humans], since the underlying biochemistry is shared - and so are the genes encoding it. And this is merely a salient example.


48 posted on 12/08/2005 9:48:01 AM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

Well, can't argue with that!


49 posted on 12/08/2005 10:01:25 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Sols
A chimpanzee on the other hand..

Will leave you with a messy hand...

50 posted on 12/08/2005 10:22:06 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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