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Project Serpo Website (UFO Alert - Nov '05 - Really Weird)
Project Serpo - Red Book ^ | Nov 2005 - Ongoing | Bill Ryan

Posted on 12/08/2005 8:45:27 AM PST by add925

The purpose of this site

This site is not authored by anyone with direct access to confidential information. Rather, its purpose is to present to the public information that has been released, and to examine that information in a clear, balanced and intelligent light.

The background of the information

The information began to be released on 2 November 2005 by a retired senior official within the US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) who calls himself “Anonymous”. Until he chooses to make his name known, this is the way he will be represented here. Anonymous reports that he is not acting individually and is part of a group of six DIA personnel working together as an alliance: three current and three former employees. He is their chief spokesman.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aliens; artbell; billryan; eben; ebens; kooktokookam; projectserpo; ryan; serpo; tinfoilalert; ufo
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Whoaaaa...at first I laughed (another moonbat conspiracy) then kept reading. Regardless, its the latest for you Space/Scifi fans.
1 posted on 12/08/2005 8:45:28 AM PST by add925
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Makes for a good Hollywood script but,

there is zero discution of what really matters,

propulsion , unlimited energy and how it works.

Take that and add that it supposedly takes 9 months to travel 37 light years ? How? By sheer speed ? If so then travelling that fast would mean a tiny speck of dust would slice through a ship like a hot knife through butter.


2 posted on 12/08/2005 8:49:37 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

*discussion


3 posted on 12/08/2005 8:50:04 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Yep, if the ship actually "travels" through the medium and somehow doesn't jump, as in a wormhole, Stephen Hawkings type deal.


4 posted on 12/08/2005 8:51:44 AM PST by add925
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To: add925

Fires the imagination.
Nothing wrong with that.


5 posted on 12/08/2005 8:53:20 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: add925

“Anonymous”.

Ya gets whatcha ya pay for.


6 posted on 12/08/2005 8:53:46 AM PST by bkepley
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To: Para-Ord.45

"How? By sheer speed ?"

Wormhole/warp technology?
Who knows. There are a lot of things we don't know yet.
There was a time we thought going faster than 50mph would kill a man.


7 posted on 12/08/2005 8:55:27 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: brownsfan
Fires the imagination.

Could've been a good screenplay sold to Hollywood or fiction novel...wonder why someone is doing it for free?

8 posted on 12/08/2005 8:56:05 AM PST by add925
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To: add925

Contact was better -- flame away, but I enjoyed the movie.


9 posted on 12/08/2005 8:56:46 AM PST by durasell
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To: bkepley
Ya gets whatcha ya pay for.

Yes, thats the main gotcha, sofar. Be interesting if there is ever a reveal of the author(s).

10 posted on 12/08/2005 8:57:32 AM PST by add925
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To: durasell
Ya gets whatcha ya pay for.

Did you read on the website that Sagan was supposedly brought into Project Serpo and may have based his novel on his experience?

11 posted on 12/08/2005 8:58:53 AM PST by add925
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To: brownsfan


wormhole !?

ok,you go first and if you don`t come out the other side looking like a 300 mile long string of spaghtti,I`m in.

Worping space to "jump" it requires the energy of something like a few millions stars.Or some ridiculous number like that.

My opinion,can`t be done.No such things as martians.
Beings from other dimensions yes,as in biblical demons here to deceive.


12 posted on 12/08/2005 8:59:52 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: add925

No, I missed that part. However, I do know that Sagan wrote the book for money (and because he had little to lose). He was already terminally ill and wanted to provide for his family.

I'm somewhat fascinated by the wacky stuff, not because I believe it, but because it acts as kind of a funhouse mirror that can -- though not always -- offer some insight to what people are thinking.


13 posted on 12/08/2005 9:01:57 AM PST by durasell
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To: add925

bump


14 posted on 12/08/2005 9:03:20 AM PST by Dark Skies (" For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. " Matthew 6:21)
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To: durasell
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2) One of the principal home-based scientists (astronomer) contracted to assist us was Dr. Carl Edward Sagan. Initially, he was the biggest skeptic of the group. But as information was slowly analyzed, Dr. Sagan came back to the middle. I can't say he fully accepted every single piece of data, but he did agree on the final report.

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[FAST FACTS ON Dr CARL E SAGAN: (Victor Martinez) Born in Brooklyn, NY on 11-9-'34 and died in Seattle, WA on 12-20-'96 of bone marrow cancer. He was an American astronomer, educator and planetary scientist and was the Director of the Laboratory for Planetary Studies at Cornell University. CONNECTING THE DOTS: "Project SERPO's" final report was written in 1980 with Dr Sagan having been brought in half way through the project. It is believed that he wrote his 1985 bestseller, CONTACT, based on his insider knowledge of the most secret project in human history: a human-alien exchange program of which he signed off on its final report! Years later, his book was made into the 1997 movie CONTACT starring Jodie Foster.]

15 posted on 12/08/2005 9:05:15 AM PST by add925
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To: Para-Ord.45

"My opinion,can`t be done.No such things as martians. "

No doubt, the Mars rovers proved that!
This is harmless. I don't have a horse in this race. I find it interesting, that's all.
If you see it as a bunch of BS. Fine. (Probably is BS. LOTS of hucksters have been selling different versions of this).
BUT, it's fun. So, to speculate, imagine, wish... all ok as long as it doesn't cost me anything.


16 posted on 12/08/2005 9:06:25 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

My opinion,can`t be done.No such things as martians.


BS! -- you chill a reasonable glass, coat inside with vermouth and then add chilled Bombay Saphire with an olive...drink and repeat process.


Oh, wait, you said martians. Never mind.


17 posted on 12/08/2005 9:11:14 AM PST by durasell
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To: brownsfan


Yup,

Make a fine movie if done with a sense of realism. Meaning the nitty-gritty of living on a hot dusty planet. Team members dying in an accident,some members deciding to stay,watching aliens trying to play baseball,taking a poop,etc.

That would be way better than any post-modern super special effects Star Wars movie any day.


18 posted on 12/08/2005 9:16:11 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: brownsfan
all ok as long as it doesn't cost me anything.

You're right. thats why this site is interesting...no bookseller click-thru links, no commercial activity whatsoever.

Not even a link to DUmmieville!

19 posted on 12/08/2005 9:16:23 AM PST by add925
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To: Las Vegas Dave; KevinDavis

Ping!


20 posted on 12/08/2005 9:19:28 AM PST by Dengar01 (Go White Sox!)
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To: Para-Ord.45
That would be way better than any post-modern super special effects Star Wars movie any day.

Perhaps a reason for this website was this story was shopped around to publishers and Horrywood (sic) producers to no avail. Not enough glitz nor anti-Bush stuff, a sure-fire loser in the entertainment media.

21 posted on 12/08/2005 9:20:22 AM PST by add925
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To: bkepley
“Anonymous”

Reminds me of the anonymous "Aussie" who was predicting a huge comet hitting the earth...IIRC last year.

22 posted on 12/08/2005 9:20:29 AM PST by all4one (The Islamic Homicide Bombers are really helping to spread the message about the real nature of Islam)
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To: add925

Was this written by Ray Bradbury?
Interesting I must say....convincing.....who knows?

Would our government keep something like this from us?? You bet?? Would our government package people who release information as part of the lunatic fringe? You bet!


23 posted on 12/08/2005 9:22:23 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: o_zarkman44
Would our government keep something like this from us?? You bet?? Would our government package people who release information as part of the lunatic fringe? You bet!

While not a moonbat, I fully believe we have/will have no idea about some of the real technology hidden away.

Partly, not to get a technical advantage into the public domain, partly not to upset economic processes or established government bureaucracies.

If we all had flying carpets, able to go anywhere, anytime, any place, the need for borders or individual big-government entities would vaporize.

24 posted on 12/08/2005 9:27:43 AM PST by add925
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To: add925

Sounds like a lot of the readers and posters on that website have good imaginations.


25 posted on 12/08/2005 9:29:14 AM PST by Dengar01 (Go White Sox!)
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To: Dengar01
Yes, what struck me also is its not as moonbatty as I have seen elsewhere.....National Enquirer-type "My Father was an Alien" schtick.

Not bad scifi, no Anti-Bush Star Wars crapola, and they're giving it away...Merry Christmas, I guess.

26 posted on 12/08/2005 9:34:38 AM PST by add925
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To: add925
Tom Cruise? Is that you?

:)
27 posted on 12/08/2005 9:44:04 AM PST by Daus
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To: Para-Ord.45
If so then travelling that fast would mean a tiny speck of dust would slice through a ship like a hot knife through butter.

Not if you divert power from the phasers to the main deflector array.

28 posted on 12/08/2005 9:49:34 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: add925

It would make a good movie though.


29 posted on 12/08/2005 9:50:13 AM PST by Dengar01 (Go White Sox!)
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To: Dengar01
It would make a good movie though.

I thought so initially, but there is no major left-wing component/moral to it, so Horrywood (sic) would likely flush it.

30 posted on 12/08/2005 9:53:17 AM PST by add925
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To: Daus
Tom Cruise? Is that you?

Nope, I think Tom is a Xenu (sp?) type of dude. His aliens are from a different species altogether ;)

31 posted on 12/08/2005 9:55:15 AM PST by add925
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To: add925
Stop! stop! It's a cookbook....

Actually, an interesting read.

32 posted on 12/08/2005 9:59:35 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: add925

I find it interesting as well.
Bookmarked for later entertainment.

mc


33 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:33 AM PST by mcshot (And much it grieves my heart to think what the Dems claim to believe.)
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To: mcshot

Interesting & a freebie! Merry Christmas to us!


34 posted on 12/08/2005 10:01:47 AM PST by add925
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To: Para-Ord.45

Conspiracy trumps physics - pass it on


35 posted on 12/08/2005 10:03:40 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: add925

a,
Thanks for posting this. I only got to hear the first 30 minutes or so of George Noory last night.

One question I always had about the so-called Roswell Incident, is this:

If an alien society were technologically advanced enough to design, build, and operate a conveyance that physically travelled between insanely distant planets, how come it crashed in bad weather?

As for a film version of this Serpo stuff, arguably it's been done with "Close Encounters". Another idea though is to do it like "Never Cry Wolf", but instead of a lone reseacher in the Yukon studying wolves, it's 12, they're on another planet, and they're- as another poster put it- watching aliens.


36 posted on 12/08/2005 10:21:30 AM PST by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: Gefreiter
If an alien society were technologically advanced enough to design, build, and operate a conveyance that physically travelled between insanely distant planets, how come it crashed in bad weather?

Not sure about that, only read there were 2 crash sites, which some speculate related to a navigation accident.

This website portrays them as technologically advanced, but living simply, some died in accidents there.,

While thinking about it, what if it we were visited sometime in the past? Could we ever be given the info without upsetting religions, governments, etc.,?

I'd guess the less we know, the safer some psychologists, politicians, theologians, etc., think we'll be. Kinda the Mushroom Principle.

37 posted on 12/08/2005 10:33:51 AM PST by add925
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To: brownsfan
I printed the bulk of this web sitge and read down through ten fine print pages before concluding that this doesn't pass the smell test. Provided that something may have been presented beyond my stopping point that would change my opinion, here is my simple reason why this stuff is BS.

There is a complete lack of a sense of utter amazement and wonder regarding the findings of 12 people travelling and living with another civilization located 38.43 light years from earth. I have read more exciting stuff about the Chicago Auto Show than from these pages.

Thee actual descriptions of the alien world are linear and convention (and booooorrrrriiiinnnnggg). Most people I know come back from summer vacation with more exciting stories to tell. The aliens were dull, the food was dull, didn't see anything particularly new, it was awfully hot, electric razors worked fine with the eben system, time didn't matter, the ebens went to church, they had funerals, there food tasted like potatoes, the humans had to boil the eben water before drinking it, families had a mommy and a daddy and two kids, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

38 posted on 12/08/2005 11:40:40 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Smokin' Joe
It sort of places Former Canadian Defense Minister Hellyer's comments from a few weeks ago in an interesting context. He was the minister during the early to mid 60's. He was speaking about the government's refusal to admit ET contact and was pretty quickly dismissed as a nutbar but this makes one think...

I'm highly skeptical about this stuff but it was an interesting read.

39 posted on 12/08/2005 11:56:24 AM PST by mitchbert (Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: all4one
Reminds me of the anonymous "Aussie" who was predicting a huge comet hitting the earth...IIRC last year.

Did that not hit? I thought I missed it because I was lying on the floor with a paper bag over my head.

Isn't that what you do when the world is about to end?

40 posted on 12/08/2005 12:03:03 PM PST by Dementon (You're unique! Just like everyone else!)
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To: Dementon
"Did that not hit? I thought I missed it because I was lying on the floor with a paper bag over my head."

LOL! Nope, somehow his amazingly researched and knowledgeable information did not come to pass.

41 posted on 12/08/2005 12:14:02 PM PST by all4one (The Islamic Homicide Bombers are really helping to spread the message about the real nature of Islam)
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To: Gefreiter
If an alien society were technologically advanced enough to design, build, and operate a conveyance that physically travelled between insanely distant planets, how come it crashed in bad weather?

Excellent point. If the Roswell incident is true, the answer might be that they wanted to make contact in a way that made themselves seem less threatening. Ergo, "oops, well I guess you have found me out."

Now read what Whitley Strieber says about the visitors in Transformation...

"I felt an absolutely indescribable sense of menace. It was hell on earth to be there [in the presence of the entities], and yet I couldn't move, couldn't cry out, couldn't get away. I'd lay as still as death, suffering inner agonies. Whatever was there seemed so monstrously ugly, so filthy and dark and sinister. Of course they were demons. They had to be. And they were here and I couldn't get away."

42 posted on 12/08/2005 12:18:27 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Dark Skies

"There is a complete lack of a sense of utter amazement and wonder regarding the findings of 12 people travelling and living with another civilization located 38.43 light years from earth. "

Like I said, this stuff has been peddled in different packages many times over.
That is a good call, I didn't put my finger on it, but it all seems like: Yep, we met some aliens. Rather than: Oh my gosh, there's someone else! Look at this!

Your BS meter seems to be functioning very well.


43 posted on 12/08/2005 12:19:08 PM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Dark Skies

I've never read any of his anal-probe stuff. But I am familiar with "Warday" and "Nature's End", both of which I enjoyed mucho.

If you poke around the Serpo site, you'll find that the amiable aliens our team visited said that there were malevolent species in the stars, they had contact with them, had exterminated at least one, and managed to avoid the others.


44 posted on 12/08/2005 12:24:54 PM PST by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: durasell

[i]No, I missed that part. However, I do know that Sagan wrote the book for money (and because he had little to lose). He was already terminally ill and wanted to provide for his family. [/i]

I doubt it. Contact was published in 1985, 11 years before Sagan's death. I don't think he was terminally ill that long.


45 posted on 12/08/2005 12:27:29 PM PST by Bubbatuck ("Hillary Clinton can kiss my ass" - Tim Robbins)
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To: brownsfan; Dark Skies

Oh, I dunno. Consider the composition of the team: military officers and ultra-specialists in brainy fields.

THe level of reporting we read on the Serpo site is about what I'd expect from such a collection.

Not that I think it's true, one word of it. I'm just saying that I would expect any such group to produce a work about the most astonishing discovery in the history of humankind such that it would require a stiff chair and a thermos of robust coffee to get through.


46 posted on 12/08/2005 12:29:00 PM PST by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: Gefreiter; Dark Skies

I don't believe it. But, like I said, it doesn't cost to entertain the possiblity. It's great fun, and cheap entertainment.
Besides, I personally believe there are others out there, somewhere. Now if there has been contact, that's a whole different story.
I personally enjoy the speculation that we are "seeded" here, chariots of the gods type stuff.
And not that doesn't preclude a belief in God, I just don't believe every word of the Bible is to be taken literally.


47 posted on 12/08/2005 12:37:15 PM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: brownsfan
After having read John Mack's experiences with abductees, I lean rather strongly toward believing these people had extremely traumatic experiences. However, I am not so sure that I think they are visiters from another planet or solar system so much as from another dimension.

Additionally, their interaction with humans has been far from benign. Abductees are psychological scarred from being plucked against their will over a long period of time and for what seems to be sexually oriented experimentation with a possible goal of genetic engineering. All abductees described the experience as "rape."

I ascribe more to the theory that these visitors are the same creatures that have been visiting earth (or humans, at least) since the beginning of recorded time. Even Genesis and the apocryphal Book of Enoch makes mention of such creatures.

Long story short, some people believe, from their MO of abduction and genetic manipulation that they are "the fallen" who are hurriedly trying to create a hybrid we might otherwise know as "the Beast" or "the AntiChrist."

Boo!

48 posted on 12/08/2005 12:47:29 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: add925

Bump for later read


49 posted on 12/08/2005 1:01:53 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Gefreiter

One thing that always bothered me about the Roswell Incident was why Major Marcell was never given a competancy hearing and forced to resign from the Air Force.

I mean c'mon.. he misidentified a weather balloon for a flying saucer? Coupled with the fact he was THE Intel officer at the base? It was his JOB to know every single thing that flew in the air. That's what an Intel Officer does.


50 posted on 12/08/2005 1:04:21 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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