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U.S. IDs Remains From 1968 Vietnam Attack (A Hero Comes Home)
AP ^ | 12/8/05 | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 12/08/2005 3:28:36 PM PST by USMC79to83

WASHINGTON - Nearly four decades after 11 American servicemen were killed by North Vietnamese commandos at a secret radar site in Laos, U.S. investigators have made the first identification of remains — with the help of two of the commandos.

The breakthrough is one of the most remarkable achievements in the U.S. military's decades-long effort to find and identify the remains of hundreds of U.S. serviceman missing in action from the Vietnam War.

Yet the recovery and identification of the remains of Air Force Tech. Sgt. Patrick L. Shannon, of Owasso, Okla., also created a new mystery. On the mountain ledge where his remains were found, U.S. investigators discovered boots, clothing fragments and other personal items that indicated that some of the other missing Americans had been on the same ledge. None has been seen or heard from since the attack.

Eight of the 19 Americans at the radar site when it was attacked in the early morning of March 11, 1968, were rescued several hours later by CIA helicopters. One of the eight died en route to a base in Thailand.

The capture of the mountain facility marked the start of a major communist offensive in then-neutral Laos. The CIA said in a 1995 study of the episode that it was the beginning of the end for the noncommunist forces in Laos, which today is one of the world's last communist countries — and one of its poorest.

Larry Greer, a spokesman for the Defense POW-MIA Office, said U.S. investigators plan to return to the area, although no date has been set. The area is in Houaphan Province, about 25 miles from the provincial capital of Samneua, then a stronghold of the communist Pathet Lao and a gateway between Laos and North Vietnam.

In 1966, the U.S. installed a navigation radar atop Phou Pha Thi mountain, above a landing site known as Lima Site 85. In 1967, it was upgraded with a bombing-control radar to direct U.S. bombers to their targets in North Vietnam. The site was guarded by about 1,000 local Hmong troops advised by CIA paramilitary officers.

The Americans who operated the site were known as Circuit Riders, Air Force technicians operating under civilian cover. The 1995 CIA study said the men proved to be no match for the North Vietnamese commando team that attacked the site, apparently by scaling a 5,600-foot ridge line to reach the radar site.

With the help of the Vietnamese government, two of the commandos were located, interviewed and taken to Lima Site 85 with U.S. investigators in March 2003. The two showed the investigators three places atop the mountain where they said that after overrunning and killing the Americans, they threw the bodies off the cliff.

The investigators then threw mannequins off the cliff at each of those three locations and videotaped the path of the mannequins from a helicopter hovering nearby. That led them to the ledge, about 540 feet below the radar site, where they found human remains later identified as those of Shannon.

"It's a miracle, it's amazing news," said Pamela Shannon, 48, of Oklahoma City, who regards her father as a hero — a 13-year Air Force veteran who was 30 years old at the time he was killed. She said her family was notified of the identification the day before Thanksgiving.

"It was a great holiday. It was shocking," she said in a telephone interview.

Greer said the investigators also found several personal items on the ledge, including boots, survival vests, a canteen and clothing fragments that indicated the presence of all least three other Americans besides Shannon. It has not been possible to tell from those personal items which Americans they belonged to, Greer said.

DNA matching was used to identify Shannon's remains, Greer said. The remains will be returned to his family for burial with full military honors.

Since the end of the Vietnam war in 1975, 771 missing American servicemen have been accounted for, including 199 lost in Laos. There are 1,812 still listed as missing from the war.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: laos; mia; powmia; remains; vietnamwar; welcomehome
Another Hero comes home. May God bless them all.
1 posted on 12/08/2005 3:28:37 PM PST by USMC79to83
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To: USMC79to83

Welcome home.


2 posted on 12/08/2005 3:31:57 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: SAMWolf; USMCBOMBGUY; snippy_about_it; Valin

Welcome home ping


3 posted on 12/08/2005 3:40:35 PM PST by Professional Engineer (God smiled upon me this morning. ;-))
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To: USMC79to83

Welcome home, Sgt. Patrick L. Shannon.


4 posted on 12/08/2005 3:43:19 PM PST by Balata
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To: USMC79to83

Great news!


5 posted on 12/08/2005 3:43:30 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: USMC79to83; 2witty; A Jovial Cad; AmerRepb; amigatec; Amityschild; Angry_White_Man_Syndrome; ...
Are they going to bring Sgt. Shannon back to Oklahoma? Does anyone know?

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6 posted on 12/08/2005 3:56:12 PM PST by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: USMC79to83

Welcome home Sgt. Shannon. Rest in Peace.


7 posted on 12/08/2005 4:30:54 PM PST by Khurkris ("Hell, I was there"...Elmer Keith.)
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To: USMC79to83

Welcome home, Bro.


8 posted on 12/08/2005 4:36:52 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: USMC79to83

Welcome home...


9 posted on 12/08/2005 4:44:11 PM PST by in the Arena
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To: USMC79to83

Welcome home, Hero! My heart always feels one shade happier when we find one of our POW/MIA.


10 posted on 12/08/2005 4:44:55 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: USMC79to83

Welcome home Sgt. Patrick L. Shannon. An American Hero. Rest In Peace.


11 posted on 12/08/2005 4:49:58 PM PST by ramseye
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To: USMC79to83

I've been fascinated by this story for some years since I ran across a CIA afteraction report at this url:

http://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/95unclass/Linder.html

I think two CIA medals were awarded as the result of this action.

Now there is more information in a new non-fiction book: http://www.pjsinnam.com/VN_History/VN_Documents/LS85_Castle_Book.htm


12 posted on 12/08/2005 5:11:32 PM PST by wildbill
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To: USMC79to83

I have a good friend whose father is still missing. He crashed a spad in '66, they never found a body at the crash site.


13 posted on 12/08/2005 5:13:14 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Christmas is annoying, Happy Festivus)
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To: Professional Engineer

Bump


14 posted on 12/08/2005 9:22:54 PM PST by Valin (Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege)
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To: Professional Engineer

Laos, which today is one of the world's last communist countries — and one of its poorest.

Why am I not suprised.


15 posted on 12/08/2005 9:23:49 PM PST by Valin (Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege)
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To: 2Jedismom

BTTT


16 posted on 12/09/2005 3:09:03 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: wildbill
I've been fascinated by this story for some years since I ran across a CIA afteraction report at this url:

http://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/95unclass/Linder.html

Great read and a damn shame we lost these men.

17 posted on 12/09/2005 10:25:27 AM PST by USMC79to83
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To: USMC79to83

I'm a writer and after finding out about this have been toying for some years with writing a fictionalized version of this action--with the guys who went missing off the cliff surviving.

But it's been so long, do you think there would be any interest in the SE Asia subject.


18 posted on 12/09/2005 10:52:22 AM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill
But it's been so long, do you think there would be any interest in the SE Asia subject.

Well, John Kerry made Vietnam the bedrock of his campaign, so apparently a lot of people still retain interest.

19 posted on 12/09/2005 11:10:32 AM PST by ErnBatavia (403-3)
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To: wildbill

wildbill,

I am very familiar with this operation. The choppers referred to in your link were assigned to the 40th ARRS, as was I. We were forward deployed to Long Tieng (LS20) when LS85 was attacked. FACS were put into the area, but the choppers were told to standdown as the CIA said they had it 'handled' until they realized they had underestimated the size of the NVN force. At that time they requested assistance but when we arrived the perimeter had already been breached. As we approached we saw personnel running toward the chopper, not knowing if they were our Hmong friends, or the NVN. After that was sorted out we were able to pick up about 25 and return to LS20. The whole place was in chaos. The Sandys couldn't lay in any ordnance in the site because we knew there were still AF guys in there somewhere.

I think if the spooks had requested assistance from the beginning, this would have ended differently.


Welcome Home, Sergeant


20 posted on 12/09/2005 11:57:07 AM PST by sargunner
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To: wildbill
I think there would be interest - it seems to me that enough time has passed that the story would have a "historic" feel, yet still be relevant.

Besides, how can you beat a well written, well researched story where the good guys win?

21 posted on 12/09/2005 12:58:24 PM PST by USMC79to83
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To: USMC79to83

I'd like to say thanks to everyone who has read this. Patrick Shannon was my grandfather, and although he disappeared before my time, he is still one of my personal heroes. He will be home soon. We are bringing his remains back to Oklahoma. He belongs here with him family, and finally he'll be safe at home with us. Once again, thanks for the support.
Alicia Guerra


22 posted on 01/15/2006 5:59:30 PM PST by Alicia Guerra
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