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Angry Republicans request meeting with governor over appointment
San Diego Tribune ^ | 12/7/05 | Tom Chorneau

Posted on 12/08/2005 3:53:30 PM PST by SierraWasp

Angry Republicans request meeting with governor over appointment

By Tom Chorneau ASSOCIATED PRESS

5:39 p.m. December 7, 2005

SACRAMENTO – Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's decision to hire a prominent Democrat as his chief of staff has sparked a growing uprising among Republican Party loyalists, who have requested a meeting with Schwarzenegger to hear him explain the choice. The governor has agreed to meet next Thursday with leaders of the California Republican Party to hear their concerns that Susan Kennedy, an aide to former Gov. Gray Davis, is now positioned to learn critical details of GOP campaign strategy and political policy.

Some Republicans said they want the governor to rescind the appointment and warn that Schwarzenegger's support in the upcoming re-election campaign could be jeopardized if their concerns are not addressed.

California Republican Party Chairman Duf Sundheim said he is optimistic the differences can be resolved without a major rebellion.

"Every indication is that this will be a constructive meeting," Sundheim said. "The two major things people want to understand is what her role will be in the campaign. To what extent will we be interacting with her, or will there be others that we can discuss things with? You understand that we are concerned about races other than the governor."

Rob Stutzman, the governor's communication director, said Republicans have raised legitimate concerns but added that Schwarzenegger is not inclined to consider rescinding Kennedy's appointment.

"Any elected official has the right to hire the person he believes will best help him accomplish his mission," Stutzman said. "This is not something for a political party to decide.

"There are obviously understandable concerns given Susan's work prior to coming to the administration, and that makes it a good story," he said. "But my caution to Republicans that are talking about rather drastic measures (is) they are overreacting. They should judge the governor on how he governs, and that's all that matters."

Kennedy, 45, served as cabinet secretary to Davis and campaigned for her former boss during the 2003 recall election that brought Schwarzenegger to power. She also is a former director of an abortion rights group and a former staff aide to Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

Kennedy will replace Patricia Clarey, who will leave as chief of staff Jan. 1.

Clarey was deputy chief of staff to former Gov. Pete Wilson and was one of several Wilson aides who caught on with Schwarzenegger's team during the 2003 recall election.

Kennedy's appointment comes after Schwarzenegger lost badly in the November special election, seeing voters reject all four of the ballot measures he promoted.

Republican legislative leaders said they share the same concerns over Kennedy as their party leaders, but said the directors acted on their own in forcing next week's meeting with the governor.

Assembly Republican leader Kevin McCarthy of Bakersfield said he does not support the Kennedy appointment: "I think it is a step backward."

Senate Republican leader Dick Ackerman of Tustin said it sent "the wrong message." Still, Ackerman said he would not ask that the appointment be rescinded.

"That's up to the governor to decide," he said.

Several Republicans said they are watching for signs that the governor has moved to the left on policy issues, some of which will arise next month. Those include the 2006-2007 budget and his State of the State speech, in which he will lay out his agenda for the coming year.

More immediately, however, is the governor's decision on a clemency appeal from condemned inmate Stanley Tookie Williams, a co-founder of the Crips gang who was convicted of murdering four people in 1979. The hearing is Thursday, and Schwarzenegger's decision is expected this weekend.

Some believe that if the governor grants clemency, it could further undermine his support from inside his own party.

"I'd be very surprised if Schwarzenegger would commute the sentence," Republican analyst Allan Hoffenblum said. "But if he did, it would certainly exacerbate his problems."

Hoffenblum said he was not sure if it would result in a call for a new nominee to represent the party next year.

"But he might find that he has lost so much of his base, he might not be able to put a winning team together," he said.

Indeed, Sundheim said the people most upset with the Kennedy appointment are those who put in the most time working for the party. Other observers said they do not view the uprising over the Kennedy appointment as a serious threat.

"This brouhaha will not hurt him in the long run," said Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a political scientist at the University of Southern California.

Jeffe said the biggest concerns are being raised by the party leaders, not rank-and-file members. She noted that leaders typically are those who put in the most time on the campaign and are also likely to be the party's most conservative members.

"I suspect that early on, Republicans fell into line simply to get rid of Davis," she said. "What I find astonishing is that they believed that Arnold Schwarzenegger was a conservative. He is not, never has been."

Stutzman agreed.

"This is a governor who repealed a $4 billion car tax, brought the state back from insolvency without raising taxes, fixed workers comp and helped create 425,000 new jobs," he said. "He also just got done waging a campaign on some issues that Republicans have waited years to be brought to the ballot.

"But at the end of the day, he is a centrist," Stutzman said. "He will have Republicans and Democrats around him."


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This is as out of place as the attempted Harriet appointment to the SCOTUS and in many ways even worse!!!

I'm pretty well fed up with those who don't think Party Primaries and Party Leadership matter that much! I don't want any third parties when we can't even get our danged elected officials to honor the Parties we have, nor their stated platforms!!!

1 posted on 12/08/2005 3:53:31 PM PST by SierraWasp
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To: SierraWasp

The California Republican Party making threats to the elected Governor?

He is successful, and they are not.


2 posted on 12/08/2005 3:58:53 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; FOG724; calcowgirl; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; ...

Are we letting these "leaders" in on what each of us thinks about this?


3 posted on 12/08/2005 3:59:57 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: truth_seeker

He is successful at exactly WHAT???


4 posted on 12/08/2005 4:00:48 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Jeffe said the biggest concerns are being raised by the party leaders, not rank-and-file members.

???Send this boob a membership in FRee Republic...

6 posted on 12/08/2005 4:10:11 PM PST by tubebender (You can't make Chicken Salad from Chicken Bleep...)
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To: truth_seeker
"This brouhaha will not hurt him in the long run," said Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a political scientist at the University of Southern California.

I think Miss Bebitch Jeffe is right.

Governor Schwarzennegger is Governor to ALL Californians; not just Republicans or conservatives. Last election proved and made clear a number of issues, IMHO.

That being said -- There is no money in the world sufficient to have me wish to be in Susan Kennedy's position: A Dem and working with THIS Repub Governor. This is the wrench on her, not the other way around, IMHO.

"There are obviously understandable concerns given Susan's work prior to coming to the administration, and that makes it a good story," he said. "But my caution to Republicans that are talking about rather drastic measures (is) they are overreacting. They should judge the governor on how he governs, and that's all that matters."

Stutzman is right.

Several Republicans said they are watching for signs that the governor has moved to the left on policy issues, some of which will arise next month.

I don't think he will; I do foresee some "feints", however. And if folks can stop with the kneejerk reactions, and watch the hidden "other" hand, they might begin to see some sense. (I'm not hopeful of seeing that here in FR, nonetheless, lol...)

"This is a governor who repealed a $4 billion car tax, brought the state back from insolvency without raising taxes, fixed workers comp and helped create 425,000 new jobs," he said. "He also just got done waging a campaign on some issues that Republicans have waited years to be brought to the ballot.

7 posted on 12/08/2005 4:15:47 PM PST by Alia
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To: doodlelady

Meant to ping you to post #7.


8 posted on 12/08/2005 4:18:02 PM PST by Alia
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To: SierraWasp
"This is a governor who repealed a $4 billion car tax, brought the state back from insolvency without raising taxes, fixed workers comp and helped create 425,000 new jobs," he said. "He also just got done waging a campaign on some issues that Republicans have waited years to be brought to the ballot.

A California state Senator is on record warning the Austrian to be truthful to the electorate. Of the four claims offered by Stutzman, only one, job growth, has any basis in fact; and only because Stutzman used the term helped.

9 posted on 12/08/2005 4:18:41 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: William Creel
Posted by me on another thread on this issue:

I suspect Schwarzenegger and McCain are preparing to reactivate the Reform Party under different management and a different name. (I think they'll go back to early American history and revive the old Federalist Party label.)

10 posted on 12/08/2005 4:19:37 PM PST by Publius
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To: SierraWasp

Not sure what he was thinking.
I also would not trust her around the party information.
They have demonstrated they would do anything to win


14 posted on 12/08/2005 4:28:19 PM PST by Roverman2K
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To: William Creel
I'm in agreement with your observation.

The role of third parties in US political history has chiefly been to refocus the intentions of the two major parties. They serve the same useful purpose that is the basis of traffic citations.

15 posted on 12/08/2005 4:31:19 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: SierraWasp
He is successful at exactly WHAT???

Exactley WASP...Arnold is not only foolish, he is also arogant...ie("He has agreed to meet with them")

Your damn right you had better meet with them Arnold...you rhino pos...

Proud to have not voted for this fool.

16 posted on 12/08/2005 4:33:57 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: William Creel
Let's go back to Perot. Had he not jumped out of the race and then jumped back in, Perot would have won the '92 election with as little as 39% of the vote. His Reform Party had no working ideology, no big names (except for Perot), and the money came from people in small denominations.

All it had going for it was the fact that the American people were fed up with the radical left-wing nominating electorate of the Democrats and the radical right-wing nominating electorate of the Republicans. Neither party could think outside the box for solutions. Perot created a party of the Radical Middle, conservative on economic issues, but libertarian on social issues. By not being tied to the Religious Right, the unions or the blacks, Perot's party of the Radical Middle was in a position to push truly radical changes to American problems.

Granted, with no Reform Party folks running for House or Senate, President Perot would have been greeted by a Congress that would have worked 24/7 to destroy his presidency. Governing would have been impossible.

But to say that third parties never work is to be ignorant of our history. The Republicans started as a third party when the Whigs lost their way over slavery.

While Schwarzenegger is constitutionally unable to run for president, McCain is the most popular politician in the country, except possibly for Rudy Giuliani. A movement of the Radical Middle could split both the Democrats and the Republicans and upend the system entirely.

If you build a political movement out of independents, RINO's and DINO's, you have an electoral majority.

17 posted on 12/08/2005 4:35:04 PM PST by Publius
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To: SierraWasp
Schwarzenegger hasn't shown any desire to allow the CA GOP to benefit from any of his coattails. He didn't campaign for anyone in 2004 (except for liberal Steve Poisner), he didn't even announce his 2006 candidacy from the GOP convention.

Now, he's taking away an opportunity to groom a future GOP governor! What was he thinking? It's not so much that he has a former Gray Davis Chief-of-Staff for his own (well, it is, really), but that he isn't taking the opportunity to let a CA GOP person take that position to be groomed to run for Governor one day! What better place is there for someone to get to intimately know the workings of Sacramento, to build a network of supporters, to learn the issues, than the Chief-of-Staff slot?

Why would Schwarzenegger deny the CA GOP the benefits of holding that position?

-PJ

18 posted on 12/08/2005 4:35:39 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: William Creel

Not as you'd think, or as her personality would indicate.

:-D )))

Pretend it's spelled "Bebbitch".


19 posted on 12/08/2005 4:41:12 PM PST by RichInOC (Dear God: Flood Sacramento. Please.)
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To: SierraWasp

As some jerk says, the governor has a right to appoint whoever he wants.

What he fails to mention is that the voters and/or the party have a right to throw him out next chance they get.


20 posted on 12/08/2005 4:42:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Alia

I think you need to start all over and get your mind RIGHT!!! Good grief!!!


22 posted on 12/08/2005 5:01:36 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Alia
"I'm not hopeful of seeing that here in FR, nonetheless"

For the life of me, I can't imagine what you would be hopeful of seeing here in FR!!!

This very little here that even comes close to melding with your overly moderate and mushy views, from what I have seen you post!!!

Looks to me like you're another one of those that thinks the idea of partisan politics is what's wrong with not only CA, but America as well!!!

I know... You want to be a moderate so you can appear to everyone as being the smartest, most open minded and "fair" FReeper on the board, right???

23 posted on 12/08/2005 5:08:22 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Why would Schwarzenegger deny the CA GOP the benefits of holding that position?

Probably for the same reason he won't empower the Republicans in the legislature by vetoing the bloated budgets that Democrats send him.

Schwarzenegger doesn't trust Republicans because he's not one of them. His political registration is a matter of convenience, not loyalty or philosophical agreement.

24 posted on 12/08/2005 5:09:49 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Publius
"I don't want any third parties when we can't even get our danged elected officials to honor the Parties we have, nor their stated platforms!!!"

Posted by me in Reply #1 on this thread!!!

25 posted on 12/08/2005 5:10:59 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: tubebender

I just think her middle name is just so appropriate!!!


26 posted on 12/08/2005 5:12:12 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

I've written letters before, but not on this issue specifically. I'm disappointed that Party leaders are more upset about this single issue because it might effect a future campaign strategy when they have shown no disappointment in all the other leftist moves the Governor has taken, in fact, giving him support throughout much of it.

Given that the same big donors that support Schwarzenegger also are the dominant funders of the CA GOP, do you think advising them of our discontent will do any good? I don't have the money to buy an ear.


27 posted on 12/08/2005 5:13:06 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: William Creel
The CAGOP would have to revoke it's premature endorsement before we could ever have any kind of legitimate Primary Election!!!

And that's exactly what I think they should do if he doesn't recant this violation of partisan public trust!!!

There is NOTHING on Earth wrong, incorrect, or unsavory about political partisanship!!!

28 posted on 12/08/2005 5:15:27 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
They should judge the governor on how he governs, and that's all that matters."

One of the most significant elements in how a person governs is the appointments they make.

29 posted on 12/08/2005 5:18:39 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: Alia
I think Miss Bebitch Jeffe is right.

If she is, that would be a first.

30 posted on 12/08/2005 5:21:25 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: Publius
"independents, RINO's and DINO's, you have an electoral majority."

My goodness! What a perfect formula for pussey thinking!!! (groan... gag... barf...)

Tell me now... Precisely how many of the above described "independents, RINO's and DINO's have ever gone down in history as ever accomplishing ANYTHING meaningful to anyone in this nation? Name ONE!!! (And if you say Earl Warren, I'm gonna puke!)

31 posted on 12/08/2005 5:23:09 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: William Creel
If we promise to primary him, I think he'll start to listen.

Oh, please. A couple days ago, you were saying:

If his referendums passed, he wouldn't be doing this.

There is absolutely no indication (none, zippo, nada!) that he has any intention of supporting the Republican platform or the platform that he ran on. He has taken leftward step after leftward step. Go back to the list again and ask yourself, if they weren't promoted by a celebrity, were these good moves for Republicans or Conservatives?

32 posted on 12/08/2005 5:24:49 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Publius
Perot would have won the '92 election with as little as 39% of the vote

Would have won? Too bad you didn't qualify your statement with "in my opinion," because there is absolutely no way you could know such a thing for certain. There is no evidence to demonstrate your assertion is factual. It is merely hypothetical.

33 posted on 12/08/2005 5:25:33 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: Wolfstar

I've been reading her stuff for quite a number of years. I've seen her be right a number of times. I've seen her be wrong, too.


34 posted on 12/08/2005 5:25:50 PM PST by Alia
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To: SierraWasp
Tell me now... Precisely how many of the above described "independents, RINO's and DINO's have ever gone down in history as ever accomplishing ANYTHING meaningful to anyone in this nation? Name ONE!!! (And if you say Earl Warren, I'm gonna puke!)

Well to be fair Gray Davis didn't commute a single death sentence. Unlike it seems the current moron.
35 posted on 12/08/2005 5:25:55 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: SierraWasp

Your comments are duly noted, Mr. SierraWASP.


36 posted on 12/08/2005 5:26:51 PM PST by Alia
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To: SierraWasp

Don't have a cow, man.


37 posted on 12/08/2005 5:27:23 PM PST by Alia
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To: Political Junkie Too
You're right! Even Governor Moonbeam had enough sense to make Gray Davis his COS to prep him for a magnificent run as CA's goofiest Gubernor with Arnold subsequently out-doing Davis at dubiousness at every turn!!!

We are truly headed in entirely the wrong direction in Governorship in CA!!!

38 posted on 12/08/2005 5:27:33 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Schwarzenegger hasn't shown any desire to allow the CA GOP to benefit from any of his coattails. He didn't campaign for anyone in 2004 (except for liberal Steve Poisner), he didn't even announce his 2006 candidacy from the GOP convention.

Schwarzenegger may call himself a Republican, but he has acted in a nearly hostile manner toward both the CAGOP and national GOP, toward President Bush, and -- as you point out -- toward candidates here in the state. He acts almost ashamed to be a Republican.

39 posted on 12/08/2005 5:29:27 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: William Creel

hehehee.. Yep. I wondered that myself...years ago. Suffice to say, it's pronounced exactly like you are thinkin'..


40 posted on 12/08/2005 5:31:10 PM PST by Alia
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To: SierraWasp
But my caution to Republicans that are talking about rather drastic measures (is) they are overreacting. They should judge the governor on how he governs, and that's all that matters."

Yep. That's all that matters. Record spending increases, record borrowing, a leftist environmental platform (taxpayer subsidized hydrogen highways, taxpayer subsidized solar roofs, global warming, etc.), "assault weapon" bans, less than 50% Republican judicial appointments, attack on property rights (Sierra Nevada Conservancy), leftist appointments (Reiss, Tamminen, Henning, Kennedy), etc.

41 posted on 12/08/2005 5:31:58 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Alia
"Don't have a cow, man."

Are you kiddin? With my waspish waiste, I ain't built for THAT!!!

42 posted on 12/08/2005 5:33:12 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SierraWasp; truth_seeker
He is successful at exactly WHAT???

Ditto to that question. I'm interested in the response.

43 posted on 12/08/2005 5:33:41 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Publius
"Let's go back to Perot."

Let's just don't and they say we did, ok? Geeze! Are you series? (snort!)

I din't enjoy them Bill & Hitlery years much, did you?

45 posted on 12/08/2005 5:35:11 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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McCain is the most popular politician in the country, except possibly for Rudy Giuliani.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

47 posted on 12/08/2005 5:35:50 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: antaresequity
"Proud to have not voted for this fool."

You and me both!!!

48 posted on 12/08/2005 5:36:17 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Wolfstar
"One of the most significant elements in how a person governs is the appointments they make."

Precisely! And their view of the proper role of government in the citizen's/people's lives!!! (or out of their lives)

49 posted on 12/08/2005 5:38:41 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
I don't want any third parties when we can't even get our danged elected officials to honor the Parties we have, nor their stated platforms!!!

Over the past 30 years, the party platforms have been drawn up by the fringes of each party. People in the practical world of politics who have to run for office tend to run away from these platforms the way Dole did in ‘96.

Precisely how many of the above described "independents, RINO's and DINO's have ever gone down in history as ever accomplishing ANYTHING meaningful to anyone in this nation?

That question is irrelevant. Since Jackson and Van Buren instituted our modern party system in the 1830's, the goal of American political parties has been to win and wield power, not to necessarily accomplish anything meaningful. Whenever parties try to accomplish something meaningful, we end up with things like civil war (Lincoln) or galloping democratic socialism (FDR and LBJ).

The American electorate averages out in the Great Middle, and that middle won’t go for candidates of the extremes unless there is an extreme situation, like the Great Depression. People don’t like radical change unless there is an obvious crisis.

I din't enjoy them Bill & Hitlery years much, did you?

Polling studies done after the ‘92 election showed that Perot did not elect Clinton. What Perot did was deny Clinton a majority, which destroyed any chance Clinton had of claiming a mandate. In that sense, Perot did the Republicans a favor by tying Clinton’s hands.

50 posted on 12/08/2005 5:38:46 PM PST by Publius
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