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Washington furious over Martin's climate change comments
CBC News ^ | Fri, 09 Dec 2005 14:57:23 EST | CBC News

Posted on 12/09/2005 12:04:23 PM PST by fanfan

The White House has officially complained about Prime Minister Paul Martin's comments this week at the climate change conference in Montreal.

Paul Martin's made his comments this week at the climate change conference in Montreal.

Jim Connaughton, chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality, has told Canadian Ambassador Frank McKenna that Martin's comments are the worst slight against President George W. Bush since Germany's Gerhard Schroeder suggested Bush's stance against the Kyoto Protocol was responsible for hurricane Katrina.

"My understanding is that Mr. Connaughton made very clear his unhappiness over Mr. Martin's comments and particularly singling out the United States," a State Department official said, the Canadian Press reported.

"There is such a thing as a global conscience," Martin said Wednesday at the UN Conference on Climate Change.

"Now is the time to listen to it. Now's the time to join with others in our global community. Now is the time for resolve, for commitment and leadership and, above all, now is the time for action. Because only by coming together can we make real and lasting progress."

In October, outgoing chancellor Schroeder said: "I can think of a recent disaster that shows what happens when a country neglects its duties of state towards its people ....

"My post as chancellor, which I still hold, does not allow me to name that country, but you all know that I am talking about America."

Later today, Martin will be meeting with former U.S. president Bill Clinton at the conference.

Bernard Etzinger, a Canadian embassy spokesman in Washington, told Canadian Press that McKenna asked Connaughton for the meeting as part of their regular encounters.

"We asked for the meeting to talk about the (climate-change) proposals and how the U.S. was responding," Etzinger said.

CBC News correspondent Neil Macdonald said he has been told that the Americans are watching the election campaign, and if there is too much anti-U.S. rhetoric, that it would an impair progress on sensitive political issues between the countries.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushhaters; canada; canadianelection; canuckistan
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1 posted on 12/09/2005 12:04:24 PM PST by fanfan
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To: fanfan

Canada Ping!

Please FReepmail me to get on or of this Canada ping list.


2 posted on 12/09/2005 12:05:15 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan

Later today, Martin will be meeting with former U.S. president Bill Clinton at the conference.
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Is this any surprise? Hardly.


3 posted on 12/09/2005 12:07:26 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: fanfan
Later today, Martin will be meeting with former U.S. president Bill Clinton at the conference.

I swear I think this guy travels the globe to undermine the USA. Didnt he hit the European capitals and meet with most of their leaders shortly after President Bush took office? One can only imagine what was said in those meetings.

4 posted on 12/09/2005 12:08:13 PM PST by capydick ("A good conscience is a continual Christmas")
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To: fanfan
Later today, Martin will be meeting with former U.S. president Bill Clinton at the conference.

Irrelevant, meet irrelevant. "Nice to meet you!"

5 posted on 12/09/2005 12:09:04 PM PST by DGray (http://nicanfhilidh.blogspot.com)
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To: EagleUSA
Birds Turkeys of a feather.....
6 posted on 12/09/2005 12:09:12 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan

Maybe I'm missing it ... but what exactly did PM Paul Martin say that has everyones knickers in a knot?


7 posted on 12/09/2005 12:09:52 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: capydick

bill clinton is an irrelevant man who needs to feel important. by speaking with foreign leaders, it must make him feel good when reality it means absolutely nothing. poor, insecure, pathetic man.


8 posted on 12/09/2005 12:11:27 PM PST by philsfan24
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To: fanfan
Now is the time to listen to it. Now's the time to join with others in our global community.
Translation - we want your money.
9 posted on 12/09/2005 12:14:38 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: fanfan

How do these intellectual midgets manage to get themselves elected to high office? What does it say about Democracy if this is the caliber of leadership that the people choose for themselves?

Since we're talking about Canada, here is Steyn's take on the subject...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1536327/posts


10 posted on 12/09/2005 12:16:13 PM PST by marron
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To: BluH2o
"To the reticent nations, including the United States, I say there is stuch a thing as a global conscience, and now is the time to listen to it."
11 posted on 12/09/2005 12:19:09 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: marron

Thanks.


12 posted on 12/09/2005 12:20:08 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan
Martin is a blubbering idiot. I remember seeing him frothing at the mouth last year over gay marriage rights and how they shouldn't be excluded from the general population.

With the upcoming election, we'll see if the Canucks have grown a pair since the last election.

13 posted on 12/09/2005 12:21:19 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: fanfan

Just amazing stuff. Used to be, people would accuse each other of witchcraft, if a crop withered, and now, hundreds of years later, people are still this stupid. Unbelieveable. The sun is very hot- it has been known to warm things. Man oh man.


14 posted on 12/09/2005 12:26:04 PM PST by emiller
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To: fanfan
OK. Since the limp wrist left-wing anti-Americans to the north say we are the cause of the idiot global warming scam, we should cut off all trade with the idiots and stop all import of the cars and other devices they manufacture and send south. Also stop them from using our medical facilities as they are polluting by driving so far since their own medical services are crap.
15 posted on 12/09/2005 12:26:27 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: fanfan

Where is this Connaughton person from? That is not a real common name. I have cousins with that name, so would like to know. This could be a second cousin.


16 posted on 12/09/2005 12:26:33 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: fanfan

Didnt one of the Kennedy "Royals " say basically the same thing? I thought Martin was on his way out the door, I guess he is just taking a cheap shot on the way out

Also I read somewhere that although we didnt sign up for Kyoto we had a better record last year than Canada.


17 posted on 12/09/2005 12:27:24 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Windsong

US/Canada relations back to the deep freeze.


18 posted on 12/09/2005 12:27:36 PM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: marron
How do these intellectual midgets manage to get themselves elected to high office?

They are the only ones with enough shameless mendacity to lie to everyone, all the time. They lack the intellectual capacity to comprehend that their lies might actually do damage (see Democratic Leadership; Iraq). ;)

19 posted on 12/09/2005 12:29:53 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When government does too much, nobody else does much of anything." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: fanfan
Now is the time for resolve, for commitment and leadership and, above all, now is the time for action.

GWB has shown all the above. This is gonna look so absurd to people in the future (if there is any)...
20 posted on 12/09/2005 12:30:27 PM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel)
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To: fanfan

Martin needs to complain about a polluter a little closer to home:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1527140/posts


21 posted on 12/09/2005 12:30:52 PM PST by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: fanfan

Global conscience? This is just more Franco-German elitism. They are becoming an increasingly irrelevant political entity. Nations that can't defend themselves will lose meaningful power, but not their bully pulpit it looks like.

I'm hoping that the next GOP administration, whenever that happens, will pull the rest of the troups out of western Europe. Perhaps repeal the Monroe Doctrine, at the same time.

Europe's democracies are adolescent, and they don't even have a EU constitution yet. They are a couple of hundred years of experience behind the U.S. in that regard. The best thing for intransigent teenagers to set them off on their own, and force them out of home. Let the petulant youngster make it on his own.


22 posted on 12/09/2005 12:32:53 PM PST by Frank T
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To: fanfan

Did he recognize that his country puts out more emissions per capita than the US?

And that his country has been putting out emissions at a much faster rate than the US since they've adopted Kyoto?

Hypocrites!


23 posted on 12/09/2005 12:33:43 PM PST by Sometimes A River (Your hands and feet are mangoes, but you're gonna be a genius anyway)
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To: fanfan

Is this McKenna fellow the same one that used to be Premier (or governor or whatever you call them there) of New Brunswick? I can remember being in NB some years ago, maybe 15 or so, and seing signs everywhere about how you couldn't trust McKenna. In 2 languages, no less!! Not sure what that was all about.


24 posted on 12/09/2005 12:33:51 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: YOUGOTIT

Can us Canadians with Conservative memberships still come?


25 posted on 12/09/2005 12:34:30 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: philsfan24

On one level I know that you're correct and I agree that he is a pathetic vessel roaming the Earth. However, when world leaders open their doors to him and, the world wide, America hating media report these meetings, it gives the appearance to the uninformed that Xlinton cares more about everything than President Bush. And it acts as a reminder that if they want the Toon redux, they can do so by putting Hitlery in office.


26 posted on 12/09/2005 12:34:53 PM PST by capydick ("He who has no Christmas in his heart will never find Christmas under a tree")
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To: ridesthemiles

Sorry, I don't know.


27 posted on 12/09/2005 12:35:00 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: sgtbono2002
I thought Martin was on his way out the door,

He will be, if us Canadian Conservatives have anything to say about it.

Jan. 23/06.

Also I read somewhere that although we didn't sign up for Kyoto we had a better record last year than Canada.

I believe I read that too.

28 posted on 12/09/2005 12:37:32 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Buck W.

LOL!

Good for Alberta!


29 posted on 12/09/2005 12:38:34 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Acts 2:38
lol.

He's the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada.


'nuff said.

30 posted on 12/09/2005 12:40:13 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Premier, and yes.


31 posted on 12/09/2005 12:41:12 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; ...

Maybe it would help if I pinged the whole list...not just myself!

Canada Ping!


32 posted on 12/09/2005 12:44:26 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan

It's fashionable to bash the US...and they know they can get away with it b/c there are no consequences.

You never see them bashing other countries though, because there would be hell to pay if they did.


33 posted on 12/09/2005 12:55:50 PM PST by Sometimes A River (Your hands and feet are mangoes, but you're gonna be a genius anyway)
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To: YOUGOTIT

You got it! :)


34 posted on 12/09/2005 12:57:25 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: fanfan; All
Seen this one?

US scientist on his experience at Montreal Kyoto conference -- Safely inside the comfortably heated convention center, I marveled at this massive, UN-guided, international effort to avert global catastrophe. The effort has been gathering momentum for about fifteen years, and now has taken on a life of its own.

 The people at COP-11 are well-fed, well-dressed, have been transported half way around the world by fossil-fueled aircraft, and are totally dependent upon myriad goods and services that require access to affordable energy. But that hasn't seemed to cross their minds.

35 posted on 12/09/2005 1:06:26 PM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Logic eludes them.


36 posted on 12/09/2005 1:14:10 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: BluH2o
Isn't that a diplomatic faux pas when an ex-president mmets with sitting heads of states? Shouldn't it be someone from the PMO's office or a minister as opposed to the Prime Minister?

Me thinks a Photo op was not missed by Mr Dither

37 posted on 12/09/2005 1:28:59 PM PST by bubman
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To: fanfan
While we're on the subject...

The Oil-for-Food Scandal – the Canadian Connection

38 posted on 12/09/2005 1:35:27 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: fanfan

One can contact Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin at:

pm@pm.gc.ca

From: http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/contact.asp


39 posted on 12/09/2005 1:42:54 PM PST by RJL
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To: fanfan
He will be, if us Canadian Conservatives have anything to say about it.

Unfortunately, Canadian Conservatives have the deck stacked against them. You've got the corrupt Liberals, the pinko NDP, and the Bloc. Hopeless. You deserve better than that.

40 posted on 12/09/2005 1:52:06 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: You Dirty Rats
You deserve better than that.

Thanks.

41 posted on 12/09/2005 2:04:11 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Buck W.
Martin needs to complain about a polluter a little closer to home:

A good read on emissions

If the full article doesn't open (sometimes Globe and Mail wants you to subscribe), just Google the title and you can get it.
42 posted on 12/09/2005 2:21:17 PM PST by proud_yank (Experience Tolerance: tell a liberal you own guns and drive an SUV!)
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To: All

It's never been clear to me why liberal Americans who are concerned that US economic activity is responsible for global warming do not take action themselves. Senators and Congressmen from blue states need only step forward and tell businesses in their state to reduce activity and they can have an effect on global warming.

Then come election day we need not hear from them again.


43 posted on 12/09/2005 2:26:13 PM PST by Owen
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To: fanfan


Former U.S. President Bill Clinton (L) listens to Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin during a news conference at the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Montreal December 9, 2005. REUTERS/Chris Wattie
44 posted on 12/09/2005 2:30:42 PM PST by maggief
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To: fanfan

I guess if we had just signed Kyoto and ignored its requirements like everyone else we'd be more popular.


45 posted on 12/09/2005 2:32:33 PM PST by sanemom
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To: fanfan

Hey, CBC -- the White House does not "officially complain" you idiots. The President may issue a statement or hold a press conference, but he does not hold a ceremony or sign a document "to complain."

How do today's journalists get through Eng Comp: 101?


46 posted on 12/09/2005 2:50:24 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Their Liberal professors give them an A+ ?


47 posted on 12/09/2005 2:51:43 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; Ryle; albertabound; mitchbert; ...
Canada ping.

Canada ratified Kyoto whereas the US did not.

Canada breached its obligations under Kyoto almost before the ink was dry on the ratification and it continues in breach.

Canada was obliged to reduce carbon emissions. it increased carbon emissions by 20 percent.

The US undertook no such obligation, yet it increased carbon emissions by only 14 percent.

If there really is "such a thing as a global conscience" on carbon emissions, China and India should not be getting a free ride under Kyoto and Martin should be complaining about them instead of the Bush.

48 posted on 12/09/2005 3:10:50 PM PST by Clive
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