U.S. accuses 7 of eco-sabotage(more details)

The Oregonian ^ | December 09, 2005 | BRYAN DENSON and MARK LARABEE

[crazyhorse691]

The devices used for the arson are similar to the ones that Tre Arrow(who is in custody in B.C. awaiting extradition for 2 other arsons)is reported to have used. The Oregon FBI Joint Terrorism Task force comes through again. Too bad the city of Portland pulled out of the force earlier.

[ncountylee]

an escalation in tactics against capitalism

Oh my God....another ISM.

[gamer guy]

I'm glad they got busted! People like that don't deserve to be free.

[wvobiwan]

If you want to imagine the potential of these scumbags if they ever get serious financing (and honestly, how many rich enemies does the US have?), read Michael Crichton's book State of Fear. I wouldn't be surprised if they're already being enlisted Al Queda...I understand Bin Laden is a big greenie...

[bikepacker67]

HAYDUKE LIVES!

[crazyhorse691]

Additional details on some of the arrests in Arizona;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1537568/posts

[Treader]

hey- what's your word on this- wwfb?

[crazyhorse691]

There are still crazies out there. I went to one of the freakazoid sites and someone had posted the mailing addresses of two of the "environmentalists"; the Lane County Jail. ROFLMAO

[SteveMcKing]

Authorities arrested Chelsea D. Gerlach, 28, Wednesday in Portland. Also arrested, according to prosecutors, was Kevin M. Tubbs, 36, in Springfield; Stanislas G. Meyerhoff, 28, in Charlottesville, Va., where he attended Piedmont Community College; and Sarah K. Harvey, 28, in Flagstaff, where she was a student at Northern Arizona University. The government also arrested Daniel G. McGowan, 31, of New York, and William C. Rodgers, 40, of Prescott, Ariz.

Teenagers. Literally teens and 20-somethings from the 1990s who never left that decade.

They're still laying in bed, alternately crying to Pearl Jam albums and "rocking out" to Nirvana.

[BenLurkin]

[Prime Choice]

charging seven people with a series of arsons and vandalism

I say charge them with conspiracy as well. And it might be a good thing to toss in some good ol' fashioned Patriot Act on their idiot butts.

[308MBR]

If Ma and Pa had have applied some belt to their behinds, they wouldn't be acting this way now.

[endthematrix]

"If we can't save the trees, we'll BURN 'em down!"

[BlazingArizona]

Cool! Did the cops find any blue-ringed octopi on the suspects?

[libstripper]

I get a real laugh out of the idea that they are all grouped in dispersed cells that don't communicate with each other and don't mutually plan. It looks like these folks did a lot of planning. If they are convicted and given some really hard time a few might even be willing to talk to the authorities and tell them what's really happening and rat out the rest of the consiprators.

[cf_river_rat]

Chelsea Gerlach

Sarah Harvey

William Rodgers

Kevin Tubbs

Credit for the mug shots here: Answers sought in UW arson (Seattle Times)

[who_would_fardels_bear]

I agree with Swanson:

"These are serious crimes. Frankly, they're just criminals and they need to be treated as such."

Since these attacks were coordinated around the country it was right for them to be hunted down by the FBI.

Whether or not they should be considered terrorists is another question.

They are not doing things to create terror, they are doing things to stop what they consider to be environment-harming activities.

Terrorists blow up random targets killing some and terrorizing countless others who ask "But for the grace of God..."

These were targeted criminal attacks.

I am concerned when a law is created to fight crime X and then is later used to fight crime Y.

For example, the RICO act which is used against abortion protestors.

[Treader]

Organized criminal enterprise is prosecuted under RICO- no matter who is doing the perpetrating. Regardless, you care more for animals & Gaia, than humans- correct? Or is your stance, that humans are no better than animals and Gaia is the higher being?

[who_would_fardels_bear]

I am not a supporter of Earth First or any other eco-fascist organization.

But I am also opposed to the creeping police state.

RICO is bad law.

If the police and FBI can't find each person who commits a crime guilty of that crime, then they need to get new jobs.

Finding people guilty of working together with others to commit crimes is anti-constitutional. The fact that people get together is perfectly legit. What they do after they make plans or what they specifically plan to do is what should be prosecuted.

If five people get together and decide to torch a lumber yard, then each of them should be found guilty of either torching a lumber yard or planning to torch a lumber yard. They should not also be found guilty of associating with others to torch a lumber yard.

[Treader]

Your sensitive understanding is truly wonderful. All the best to ya...