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Dean fires back at GOP on Iraq
tallahassee.com ^ | Dec 10 2005 | Bill Cotterell

Posted on 12/10/2005 2:41:41 AM PST by jmc1969

Dem chairman says party stands for 'moral values'

Stung by a Republican charge that his party wants to surrender in Iraq, Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said Friday night that Democrats stand for "moral values" at home and winning the war on terror.

About 2,000 wildly applauding Florida Democrats turned out for a pep rally at Walt Disney World, on the eve of their state conference, to hear Dean and other national party leaders blast President Bush and Republican policies in Congress. Earlier in the day, the GOP had posted an Internet advertisement featuring a white flag - with sound bites from Dean and Sens. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., and John Kerry, D-Mass., sharply attacking military policies in Iraq.

"We want no more walls with 55,000 names of courageous Americans who were let down by their government," said Dean. "Democrats are united - we are united in our belief that we can and must win the war on terror."

The GOP advertisement featured a quote in which Dean said the Iraq war cannot be won by American forces. In his speech, he distinguished between Iraq and a broader terror war - saying 50,000 National Guard and reserve troops should be withdrawn within six months and that 20,000 others should be deployed to Afghanistan.

Dean also said American forces should "be stationed in the region, but not in Iraq" to deal with insurgents.

Panhandle Rep. Jeff Miller, and Congressman Tom Feeney, issued statements blasting Dean's estimate that the Iraq war can't be won. Miller said his comments were "a direct attack on the morale" of American troops and "bordered on treasonous."

Feeney said Democrats show "liberal rhetoric and defeatist mentality" in dealing with serious issues.

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To: coconutt2000
Howard Dean is desperate. He's about to lose his job.

The Democrat Party is more desperate than Dean
If they fire him they will anger their base, the local party officials who voted him in
If they are smacked down from on high by the party bigwigs, they will be demoralized
And a demoralized base will not vote.

I'm almost, but not yet, to the point of rooting for his firing for the schism that would ensue as a result.
Plus, not being head of the DNC would free Mad How up for a 2008 run.

101 posted on 12/10/2005 7:46:03 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Ken Blackwell for Governor, Ohio 2006)
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To: freema

Feel free to use what you wish.


102 posted on 12/10/2005 7:47:19 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: jmc1969
"We want no more walls with 55,000 names of courageous Americans who were let down by their government," said Dean.

Is he kidding? Those responsible for the VN wall and the names engraved upon it are RATs like JFK and especially LBJ who not only got us into the war in the first place, but also applauded its demise through failure to vote for funds in Congress (all RATs voted against funding) and then blaming the Republicans. RATs are morons with zero knowledge of history.

103 posted on 12/10/2005 7:52:11 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: jmc1969
Dean - "Democrats stand for "moral values"

Moral values like you should get a "do-over" if you screw around and get yourself pregnant...or you should be free to have sex with anyone you want anytime you wish without any societal repercussions...those kind of moral values.

104 posted on 12/10/2005 7:55:37 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: Reactionary

Looks like we picked the same 2 out of three moral values!


105 posted on 12/10/2005 7:56:31 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: jmc1969
What's he getting mad at us for? It's not like we told him to turn into a cheese eating surrender monkey. Sheesh!
106 posted on 12/10/2005 7:57:34 AM PST by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: ez
"Looks like we picked the same 2 out of three moral values!"

Greatness knows no limitations, my friend.

107 posted on 12/10/2005 8:03:44 AM PST by Reactionary (The Stalinist Media is the Enemy)
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To: coconutt2000

When he does lose his job it will further illustrate how incredibly insane and inept the democratic party has become.


108 posted on 12/10/2005 8:10:43 AM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: jmc1969

Dean is trying to use the new Jim Wallis playbook. I don't think it is working.


109 posted on 12/10/2005 8:15:18 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: All

That's funny. Moral values..irreligion, gay marriage, abortion, government controlling every aspect of our lives, love of murderers, political correctness dictating all domestic and policy, international cowardice, prejudice against non approved groups. This guy should have taken Johnny Carson's place.


110 posted on 12/10/2005 8:18:01 AM PST by Luke21 (Political correctness is the insane religion of our rulers.)
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To: jmc1969; bitt; Boazo; End_Clintonism_Now
Florida Democrats turned out for a pep rally at Walt Disney World..... What better place for Dean to meet his mentor?


111 posted on 12/10/2005 8:19:22 AM PST by Bassfire (freepin with a smile)
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To: jmc1969
Dean fires back at GOP on Iraq

Dean is unarmed.

112 posted on 12/10/2005 8:20:18 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("For lunch, Ken crouches down in the road and rubs gravel into his hair.")
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To: jmc1969
Good morning.
"We want no more walls with 55,000 names of courageous Americans who were let down by their government," said Dean."

I really hate it when draft dodging SOBs like Dean invoke the Vietnam Memorial to support their antiwar stand.

Howie is the stereotypical draft dodger. Gets a deferment for a bad back and then goes skiing.

Dean, like most DemocRATs is our enemy.

Michael Frazier
113 posted on 12/10/2005 8:30:08 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: highlander_UW

I seem to recall that just before the invasion of Afghanistan leaflets were dropped by us that said something to the effect of 'We are here to avenge our dead. Surrender is your only option to survive'. I really liked the sound of that.


114 posted on 12/10/2005 8:32:51 AM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: ncountylee
Good morning.
"He has the thinnest skin of any politician I can remember."

Thin skin and a thick head. It's not a good combination for the DemocRATs, but it helps us.

Michael Frazier
115 posted on 12/10/2005 8:33:11 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: coconutt2000
"Howard Dean is desperate. He's about to lose his job."

I hope not. The man is a GOP gold mine as DNC Chairman. Not only is he inept at raising money, not able to get even 1/3 of what Ken Mehlman raises, but he's also always good for a stupid quote every time he opens his mouth.

116 posted on 12/10/2005 8:40:59 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: jmc1969
Dean also said American forces should "be stationed in the region, but not in Iraq" to deal with insurgents.

General Howard Dean, the brightest military tactician and strategist of all times. Why the Pentagon could not come up with this most innovative idea to defeat the terrorists?! (sarcasm that exceeds all imagination).

117 posted on 12/10/2005 8:51:21 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: ItsForTheChildren
Are you questioning the infallible wisdom of General Howard Dean the greatest military strategist and tactician in history?! :)
118 posted on 12/10/2005 8:59:20 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: coconutt2000

I think he is too cocky (and perhaps a little stupid) to realize that he is about to lose his job.

Side effect of 'the short man's syndrome'.


119 posted on 12/10/2005 9:08:02 AM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: jmc1969
I love Howard Dean.

Who better to be the chairman of the democRAT party, than a mentally ill, left wing moonbat?? This is a marriage made in heaven.

If poor Howard is ever removed from his chairman position, I hope he runs for President. That should guarantee GOP majorities in Congress for decades and decades.......

GO HOWIE GO!! :-)
120 posted on 12/10/2005 9:17:57 AM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: Voter#537

I agree. We shouldn't try to shut up this left wing moonbat. We need to give him a microphone and a TV camera for Christmas and have him talk 24/7/365...... :-)


121 posted on 12/10/2005 9:20:07 AM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: jveritas

But it's okay for Dean to spout this nonsense, because "General" Murtha said it first. And Comrade Pelosi BACKED him up!


122 posted on 12/10/2005 9:46:13 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: Bassfire

123 posted on 12/10/2005 9:49:14 AM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: jmc1969

I would recommend duct tape for Howard but he has become such an asset for the right with his lunatic antics I refrain from doing so.


124 posted on 12/10/2005 9:52:10 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: coconutt2000
Howard Dean is desperate. He's about to lose his job.

He certainly is firing off wildly in all directions. The man's basic mental instability is beginning to assert itself more with each passing outburst.

125 posted on 12/10/2005 9:54:52 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

I think Dean has been informed by the rest of his Party that if he doesn't start scaring up some campaign contributions for their races, they'll be thinking about replacing him. They have another month to decide if they're going to can him and replace him. After a month, it will be hard for them to switch chairs and run an effective fundraising campaign.

To some it may seem that Defective Dean is preferable to a change at the hand that stirs the pot. I certainly hope they wait to long and don't change him out, but I doubt the Democrats can really put up with the damage he's causing to their party.


126 posted on 12/10/2005 10:06:20 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: jveritas
I think Howie literally agreed, as a measure to allow formation of the DNC coalition with him as its Chairman, that he would allow his recognized volatility to be set aside in favor of the DNC/Borg collective wisdom (ptui!), thereby allowing him to serve as Chairman. Since he was already a surgeon, he was familiar with what it would mean to lobotomize himself and replace his policy thinking with that of the Borg focus-grouped sound-bite generator.

He's the supreme Max Headroom, spouting differentiations "[t]he press want[] to focus on," but then he's left without having memorized the deeper underpinnings of the polling so as to come up with rational-sounding characterizations of the Borg's output.

With these puzzle pieces in such disarray, Dean wakes up afresh to each new day, unencumbered by any history behind the freshly steaming DNC talking points. Being truly without scruples, willing to ride any extreme sound-bite to regaining their power, "out it comes!"

This problem was predictable to anyone who knew Deano and the Faustian deal he made to be the DNC Chairdummy.

HF

127 posted on 12/10/2005 10:18:32 AM PST by holden (holden on'a'na truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: jmc1969
Re:Democrats are united - we are united in our belief that we can and must win the war on terror."

"Accept in iraq, where we won in 2003"

He's not "firing back" he's digging his hole deeper.

Other than Reagan, Howard Dean is the best thing that ever happened to the Conservative movement.

128 posted on 12/10/2005 10:23:42 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Bassfire

Is that Goofy on the left?


129 posted on 12/10/2005 10:27:54 AM PST by Godzilla (Jesus - The REASON for the SEASON)
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To: jmc1969

Howard Dean's Big Head -- 12/10/2005

Old Deanie is really intense,
You can't say he sits on a fence,
He states his opinion
But never can win in
A race, 'cause his ego's IMMENSE.


130 posted on 12/10/2005 10:44:25 AM PST by syriacus (People who seem "nutty" can STILL be dangerous bombers -- Edw. Leary firebombed NYC subway 1994)
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To: highlander_UW

Thanks. I'm going to start collecting them.


131 posted on 12/10/2005 10:57:39 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: jmc1969

I guess Dean forgot who was in charge of our government that sent troops to NAM that created the need for a monument with 55,000 names on it!

And the JERK says our President needs a History lesson


132 posted on 12/10/2005 11:17:04 AM PST by not2worry (What Goes Around Comes Around!)
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To: ChadGore
Other than Reagan, Howard Dean is the best thing that ever happened to the Conservative movement.

Mad How is the gift that keeps on giving

133 posted on 12/10/2005 11:18:42 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Every time Howard screams the GOP picks up a seat)
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To: jmc1969

Just cause you say it, Howard, don't make it so.


134 posted on 12/10/2005 11:19:57 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: whershey

No, but he might be making a side trip to Key West for the hurricane delayed "Festival Day". Now that's one totally disgusting use of civil rights!


135 posted on 12/10/2005 11:24:59 AM PST by not2worry (What Goes Around Comes Around!)
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To: Godzilla

LOL....hard to tell... must be twins?


136 posted on 12/10/2005 12:30:23 PM PST by Bassfire (freepin with a smile)
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To: jmc1969

General Scream is leading the Defeatocrats to yet another reversal in the 2006 midterms. I'd call it a "forced march" if so many in the party weren't running to overtake him. Lead on, Scream, lead on!


137 posted on 12/10/2005 2:05:21 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: highlander_UW

Bill the drill Klintoon and Barney Fag...yes, the Dems stand for IMmoral values alright Howie. BTW, how many babies has your party killed with their moral values? Only DIMwits on KoolAide believe anything this lying weasel says.


138 posted on 12/10/2005 2:08:09 PM PST by Cautor
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To: not2worry
To the extent there's any legitimacy to Dean's 25,000 number, I trust it has to do with the (roughly half-way, say, '68 as embodied among the Left by the time of the McGovern/Chicago convention) stage at which he and his Leftist cohorts had amassed the momentum they believed should grind the VN conflict into a pull-out. That hostilities went on a few more years and during that time cost another 25,000 lives is most likely Dean's treasonous point.

HF

139 posted on 12/10/2005 3:00:20 PM PST by holden (holden on'a'na truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: coconutt2000
Howard Dean is desperate. He's about to lose his job.

Yep, he probably is. But not for his big and hateful mouth, directly, but because he can't raise money.

140 posted on 12/10/2005 3:46:05 PM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: mainepatsfan

My thoughts exactly! Keep attacking him and he's gonna blow a gasket.....this is the psyche of a desperate idiot....


141 posted on 12/10/2005 4:12:00 PM PST by halfright (3 Days post Hanoi (Jihadi) Jane... 2200hrs meeting to urinate on her grave...Semper Fi !)
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To: ncountylee

If he hadn't blown up in Iowa he very well could have been the Dem nominee last year. Then he would have blown up during the campaign which would have been even sweeter.


142 posted on 12/10/2005 4:47:54 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: jmc1969
"We want no more walls with 55,000 names of courageous Americans who were let down by their government," said Dean.

So why is Howard Dean doing everything he can to make sure that our government lets down our troops in Iraq?

143 posted on 12/10/2005 4:56:00 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood (left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
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To: mainepatsfan
If he hadn't blown up in Iowa he very well could have been the Dem nominee last year.

Nah, he was dead before the scream. The major Dem players had decided he couldn't beat Bush, so he was done. Just like what happened to Janet Reno. And what may even happen to Frau Clinton in '08.

144 posted on 12/10/2005 5:09:21 PM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

Possibly. He should have known that the party wasn't going to let him win in Iowa.


145 posted on 12/10/2005 5:23:11 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: jmc1969

I wonder if his time is limited as party Chairman, I thought he promised he would not get into politics, but concentrate on fund raisers and etc......can always trust Ol'Dean.


146 posted on 12/10/2005 5:25:24 PM PST by Burlem
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To: Heatseeker

Sort of a "Republicans for Howard Dean". I like it; it has a ring.


147 posted on 12/10/2005 5:29:26 PM PST by SuzyQue
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