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To: Aussie Dasher
I have never seen lord of the rings; I always believed it has witchcraft, but here they say it has a Christian message? Can somebody tell me if this is the truth?
25 posted on 12/10/2005 6:10:31 AM PST by gedeon3
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To: gedeon3

Tolkien was deeply Christian, and a member of the Inkling's along with C S Lewis. While Lewis intended to write an allegory with his Narnia series, Tolkien's aim with the Lord of the Rings was to write a heroic myth for England. So TLOTR is not specifically Christian

Having said that, Tolkien's faith can be seen throughout his books. The main characters all exhibit Christ like self sacrifice for others, evil is fought at great cost, there is no compromise with evil, etc. His book the Silmarillion with the creation story for Middle Earth is a little more obviously Christian ( or at least theistic)


27 posted on 12/10/2005 6:29:04 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: gedeon3
Lord of the rings is standard good triumphs over evil stuff, which I guess is one of the themes of every religion on the planet, past and present. As regards to witchcraft, magic is used by both sides.

It could be that Tolkien was a Christian (I don't know and honestly don't care) and if so it would be a shame if any particular group hijacks his work to further their own agenda, especially in the case of Tolkien and Lewis, who are no longer alive to argue for or against.
28 posted on 12/10/2005 6:31:42 AM PST by toadthesecond
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To: gedeon3
Yes, I suppose in the liberal mind of today Lord of the Rings would qualify as having themes that are similar to religious themes...The stuggle between good and evil. But, that's as far as it goes.
30 posted on 12/10/2005 6:34:15 AM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: gedeon3
I have never seen lord of the rings; I always believed it has witchcraft, but here they say it has a Christian message? Can somebody tell me if this is the truth?

Lord of the Rings is an epic tale of Good and Evil. The Good figures -- a wizard, some elves, a handful of men, and especially two "halflings" -- benefit from an occasional supernatural phenomenon. The forces of Evil -- mutant creatures, a vain wizard, corrupted kings of men, and a looming shadow of Ultimate Doom -- have their share of magical powers too.

But the conflict is between innocence, faith, and love versus treachery, tyranny, and lust for power. The Good Guys win.

Is that about witchcraft?

38 posted on 12/10/2005 6:58:59 AM PST by IronJack
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To: gedeon3
I have never seen lord of the rings; I always believed it has witchcraft, but here they say it has a Christian message? Can somebody tell me if this is the truth?

Let the Professor speak for himself:

Replying to Father Robert Murray, who read Lord of the Rings before publication and was left with "a strong sense of 'a positive compatibility with the order of Grace,'" and compared Galadriel to the Virgin Mary:

I think I know exactly what you mean by the order of Grace; and of course by your references to Our Lady, upon which all my own small perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded. The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like 'religion', to cults and practices, in the imaginary world.

There are several more statements to the same effect in The Letters of JRR Tolkien, from which I drew my example, as well as Tolkien's opinions on the Church and some of his theology. (Not to mention his priceless reply to the Nazis when asked if he had any Jewish blood!)

As for witchcraft, well, there is a Witch-king. Which King? The King of Angmar. bada-boom

45 posted on 12/10/2005 7:32:22 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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