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Bill Clinton Revises History in Montreal
postchronicle ^ | Dec 10, 2005 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 12/10/2005 6:16:16 AM PST by ncountylee

The US economy does not have to suffer if there is an effort to use existing clean energy and energy conservation technologies in America, former US president Bill Clinton told the United Nations climate change conference in Montreal. Bill Clinton was invited to the final day of the Nov. 28 - Dec. 9 UN summit at the invitation of the Sierra Club of Canada. While a summit usually lasts a few days, the UN officials needed almost two weeks in the colorful Canadian city. And what better person than Bill Clinton to end a summit attended by a bunch of pikers living the good life on someone else's dime.

Clinton received enthusiastic applause when he said if clean energy technologies are used, the Kyoto targets could be met and surpassed without economic harm. However, the long-winded ex-president never told his enraptured listeners how the Kyoto Protocol would not negatively impact upon the US economy.

"There's no longer any serious doubt that climate change is real, accelerating and caused by human activities. We are uncertain about how deep and time of arrival of the consequences, but we are quite clear that they will not be good," said Clinton.

He denigrated the main US fear about Kyoto -- that it would hurt the economy by chaining it to greenhouse gas reductions that were not achievable.

"...If we had a serious disciplined effort to apply on a large-scale, existing clean energy and energy conservation technologies -- we could meet and surpass the Kyoto targets easily in a way that would strengthen, not weaken, our economy," said Clinton to applause from the delegates.

(Excerpt) Read more at postchronicle.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: globalism; globalwarming; idiots; junkscience; kyoto; leftistagenda; propaganda; revisionism; un; unitednations; x42

1 posted on 12/10/2005 6:16:17 AM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

""...If we had a serious disciplined effort to apply on a large-scale, existing clean energy and energy conservation technologies -- we could meet and surpass the Kyoto targets easily in a way that would strengthen, not weaken, our economy," said Clinton to applause from the delegates."

Spoken by a man whose business acumen would fit easily in a thimble.


2 posted on 12/10/2005 6:19:25 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: ncountylee

He will die and find a truth that he fears so much now.


3 posted on 12/10/2005 6:20:47 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: ncountylee
If the MSM ever correctly refers to Clinton as the disgraced ex-Prisident, I'll faint. Even the Post Chronicle doesn't.
4 posted on 12/10/2005 6:22:06 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

And by the jerk that put 'off limits' a large supply of our cleaner coal so his contributors could sell same to us from overseas!


5 posted on 12/10/2005 6:22:34 AM PST by litehaus
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To: ncountylee
Bill's 'gonna appease the moonbats... and Hil's 'gonna keep moving to the right in hopes to keep the Dem, 2008 trainwreck from happening.

It's a strategy anyway... more than any of their parties 2008 'hopefuls' have.

6 posted on 12/10/2005 6:23:14 AM PST by johnny7 (“You have a corpse in a car, minus a head, in the garage. Take me to it.”)
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To: ncountylee

One could almost conclude the BJ Bill, who after all traveled extensively in the for Soviet Union, might be on Putin's payroll. BJ, who the President has treated well, continues to undercut President Bush's policies to the detriment of our country.


7 posted on 12/10/2005 6:29:00 AM PST by hgro (A)
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To: ncountylee

Where ever that POS speaks, he revises history


8 posted on 12/10/2005 6:30:07 AM PST by sticker
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To: sticker
When Clinton's press grab ended in the airport hanger after Bush was sworn in, I thought "thank God that's over and he's gone."

Perhaps the most I've ever been wrong.

9 posted on 12/10/2005 6:30:49 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Spoken by a man whose business acumen would fit easily in a thimble

The same coud be said of his audience--collectively. What a sad state, that a gaggle of the world's dirty street urchins seek to rule America.

10 posted on 12/10/2005 6:34:25 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ncountylee

BJ Clinton must have forgotten about the 95-0 vote on the Byrd-Hagel Resolution in his zeal to blame Bush.


11 posted on 12/10/2005 6:35:54 AM PST by Reform4Bush
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To: hinckley buzzard

BTTT


12 posted on 12/10/2005 6:38:39 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: ncountylee

The U.S. Senate overwhelmingly rejected the Kyoto treaty while Klinton was being serviced in the Oval Office. The Senate was concerned about it's economic impact on the U.S. economy, and presumably knew it was also based on bogus "science".


13 posted on 12/10/2005 6:38:40 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: ncountylee
When Clinton's press grab ended in the airport hanger after Bush was sworn in

I thought the same thing. All I remember is him saying...."we did a lot of good". Still makes me sick.

14 posted on 12/10/2005 6:40:37 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: ncountylee

He cannot touch foreign soil without being critical of his country.

Bill Clinton is a disgrace.


15 posted on 12/10/2005 6:41:08 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Reform4Bush
BJ Clinton must have forgotten about the 95-0 vote on the Byrd-Hagel Resolution in his zeal to blame Bush.

It's not just BJ that forgot. It's every lefty, the MSM and the assorted groups of Bush haters.

16 posted on 12/10/2005 6:45:27 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: ncountylee
And what better person than Bill Clinton to end a summit attended by a bunch of pikers living the good life on someone else's dime.

Ain't it the truth!

17 posted on 12/10/2005 6:45:45 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren (Take back the press!)
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To: ncountylee

I was in the supermarket line, and saw a rag that said "CLINTON DRUG PROBLEM." Who can believe Tabloids, but I can believe the old rapist is suffering from depression.

18 posted on 12/10/2005 6:49:00 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: ncountylee
There's no longer any serious doubt that climate change is real, accelerating and caused by human activities. We are uncertain about how deep and time of arrival of the consequences, but we are quite clear that they will not be good

A flat out lie. Zero evidence has been provided for this assinine assertion.

19 posted on 12/10/2005 6:58:10 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal

Wasn't it Bob Kerry(D-NE) who said that Clinton was " an especially good liar"?

I believe the man could stand in front of a mirror, lie to his mirror image, and convince himself he was telling the truth.

He'd have made a hell of a snake oil salesman back in the 19th century.


20 posted on 12/10/2005 7:04:39 AM PST by Neville72 (uist)
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To: ncountylee

Clinton will go to his grave attempting to revise history.

It will not treat him kindly.


21 posted on 12/10/2005 7:09:00 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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To: ncountylee

Don't worry, change the audience and ole billyboy will change his tune.


22 posted on 12/10/2005 7:09:02 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

23 posted on 12/10/2005 7:19:30 AM PST by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: ncountylee

Odd, WJC wasn't half the contemptible scum while in office...that he's become.


24 posted on 12/10/2005 7:52:37 AM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: stephenjohnbanker
a man whose business acumen would fit easily in a thimble.

You're giving Mr. Clinton way too much credit here. His business acumen would rattle around in a thimble.

25 posted on 12/10/2005 7:52:57 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: Hardastarboard

a man whose business acumen would fit easily in a thimble.

You're giving Mr. Clinton way too much credit here. His business acumen would rattle around in a thimble.

We know Clinton after all these years, his business acumen
is nonexistant, his nose for the big CON however is very
sharp. One has to ask, what is it in Kyoto that will line
his pocket?


26 posted on 12/10/2005 7:58:44 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Neville72
Wasn't it Bob Kerry(D-NE) who said that Clinton was " an especially good liar"?...

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Clintoon was NOT a "good liar". He was a protected liar. He knew that whatever he said would be backed up and repeated as fact by the Lamestream Press no matter how dumb it was, and they never failed him. He lied every time his lips moved and they continually covered for him and still do 'til today. You would think that once he was out of office, there would be no need for them to cover for him. I guess they do it now so Hellary won't look bad and will have a better chance of getting to the Presidency. Wonder what they'll do when she loses. And I do mean WHEN.
27 posted on 12/10/2005 8:19:51 AM PST by gooleyman ( What about the baby's "RIGHT TO CHOOSE"?????? I bet the baby would chose LIFE.)
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To: ncountylee

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051210/ap_on_sc/climate_change_clinton;_y150 Nations Agree to Future Climate Talks By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent
Sat Dec 10, 6:53 AM ET



MONTREAL - More than 150 nations agreed Saturday to launch formal talks on mandatory post-2012 reductions in greenhouse gases — talks that will exclude an unwilling United States.






For its part the Bush administration, which rejects the emissions cutbacks of the current Kyoto Protocol, accepted only a watered-down proposal to enter an exploratory global "dialogue" on future steps to combat climate change. That proposal specifically rules out "negotiations leading to new commitments."

The parallel tracks represented a mixed result for the pivotal two-week U.N. conference on global warming, doing little to close the climate gap between Washington on one side, and Europe, Japan and other supporters of the Kyoto Protocol on the other.

"These countries are willing to take the leadership," Swiss delegate Bruno Oberle said of the Kyoto nations. "But they are not able to solve the problem. We need the support of the United States — but also of the big emerging countries," a reference to China and other poorer industrializing nations not obligated under Kyoto.

But the Canadian conference president, Environment Minister Stephane Dion, said the decisions taken here amounted to "a map for the future, the Montreal Action Plan, the MAP."

The Montreal meeting was the first of the annual climate conferences since the Kyoto Protocol took effect last February, mandating specific cutbacks in emissions of carbon dioxide and five other gases by 2012 in 35 industrialized countries.

A broad scientific consensus agrees that these gases accumulating in the atmosphere, byproducts of automobile engines, power plants and other fossil fuel-burning industries, contributed significantly to the past century's global temperature rise of 1 degree Fahrenheit.

Continued warming is melting glaciers worldwide, shrinking the Arctic ice cap and heating up the oceans, raising sea levels, scientists say. They predict major climate disruptions in coming decades.

Former President Clinton, a Kyoto supporter, appeared at the Montreal meeting on its final day and urged nations to unite to confront the threat.

The United States is the world's biggest greenhouse-gas emitter, and Clinton's vice president, Al Gore, was instrumental in negotiating the treaty protocol initialed in 1997 in Kyoto, Japan — a pact the Senate subsequently refused to ratify.

When Bush rejected Kyoto outright after taking office in 2001, he said its mandatory energy cuts would harm the U.S. economy, and he complained that major developing countries were not covered.

The protocol's language required its 157 member nations at this point to begin talks on deeper emissions cuts for the next phase, which begins when Kyoto expires in 2012.

In days of tough negotiation, the Kyoto nations settled on a plan whereby a working group would begin developing post-2012 proposals. The agreement set no deadline for completing that work, except to say it should be done early enough to ensure that no gap develops after 2012.

That would guarantee an uninterrupted future for the burgeoning international "carbon market," in which carbon reductions achieved by one company can be sold to another to help it meet its target.

At the same time, the host Canadians tried to draw in the Americans on the parallel track, under the umbrella 1992 U.N. climate treaty, which does not mandate emissions cuts or other actions on global warming. As the days wore on, the language offered the Americans, and finally accepted by them, weakened.

"It's clear the Bush administration isn't willing to accept its responsibility," climate expert Bill Hare of Greenpeace International said of the continued U.S. rejection of global negotiations and emissions controls.

Explaining that stand earlier in the week, U.S. delegation chief Paula Dobriansky said the Americans "believe firmly that negotiations will not reap progress, as indicated, because there are differing perspectives."

Instead, the U.S. delegation said it favors voluntary efforts and bilateral and regional arrangements to tackle climate change. It repeatedly pointed to U.S. government spending on research and development of energy-saving technologies as a demonstration of U.S. efforts on climate.

In a news conference after his speech, Clinton suggested the Europeans and others not try to force Kyoto-style "targets" on Washington, but look for agreement on specific energy-saving projects.

"If we just keep working with the administration, we'll find some specific things we can do that are consistent with the targets," he said, but "without embracing the targets."


28 posted on 12/10/2005 8:33:09 AM PST by digger48
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To: ItsForTheChildren

see # 28, they ain't done yet!


29 posted on 12/10/2005 8:34:18 AM PST by digger48
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To: ncountylee

They'll do it if Hillary asks them to.


30 posted on 12/10/2005 8:35:39 AM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: Reform4Bush

bttt


31 posted on 12/10/2005 8:35:44 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: numberonepal
"climate change is real, accelerating and caused by human activities"

And speaking of zero evidence, did you hear, human activities are responsible for the extinction of the dinosaur? Never mind the fact that humanity and the dinosaurs were never on the earth at the same time, it's still our fault . . . some how we did it. We are bad. We should just shut up and let smart people like Bill and Hillary Clinton tell us what to do.

oops my sarcasm button isn't working.
32 posted on 12/10/2005 8:38:40 AM PST by adgirl
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To: ncountylee
Bill Clinton Revises History in Montreal

And this is newsworthy because . . . . . ???
33 posted on 12/10/2005 8:49:12 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment
And this is newsworthy because . . . . . ???

Enjoy watching cockroaches scatter in the light.

34 posted on 12/10/2005 8:54:58 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: digger48
"a map for the future, the Montreal Action Plan, the MAP."

That's it. We're screwed. They've got... The Acronym.

35 posted on 12/10/2005 9:00:06 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren (Take back the press!)
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To: ncountylee
Enjoy watching cockroaches scatter in the light.

LOL!!!!
36 posted on 12/10/2005 9:05:57 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: ncountylee

Going by the quotations of the speech in Montre'al, Clinton turns logic on its head. Not the first time that's happened. I guess he sees no advantage in posing as a moderate anymore. But I don't see how acting like a "respectable" Howard Dean is going to help advance his status or "Project Hillary".


37 posted on 12/10/2005 9:44:34 AM PST by dr_who_2
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To: DustyMoment

I prefer it when they're lethargic. Easier to kill them.


38 posted on 12/10/2005 9:45:37 AM PST by dr_who_2
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