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Who is controlling the propaganda in the media? (vanity)
self | 12/11/05 | self

Posted on 12/11/2005 2:43:28 AM PST by starbase

Who is controlling the propaganda in the media?


Not who, what. It all goes back to a dirty period in world history. What we're dealing with today is a kind of Frankenstein's monster, lumbering around the countryside of its own accord. Where did it come from? To know that, we need to look back in time.

The darkest turn in human history can be called the two headed snake of Nazism and Communism, both left-wing socialist enterprises. Both are horrendous, both are responsible for mass death, and both are scientific methods for the acquisition and retainment of power.

One of the key pillars for the establishment of both cultures was a mastery of propaganda, one of the most powerful forces in human affairs. Joseph Goebbels is supposed to have told Adolf Hitler that if they controlled the media, they wouldn't need an army. Nazism was, of course, defeated militarily. Communism, and the Soviet Union, went on to fight the Cold War with the United States for nearly seventy two years.

The heart of today's problems with a propaganda drenched media took form during the 1960's generation. This generation, as is well known, was heavily influenced by drugs, rebellion, anti-Americanism, and anti-establishmentism, in other words, they were a generation drawn in and soiled by Soviet attempts at the destruction of the United States and the achievement of world dominion.

During the 1980s this rebellious generation largely fell into obscurity, and conservatism had its finest, in fact, its defining hour, in the persons of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, culminating in the collapse and defeat of the Soviet Union.

However, many poisonous seeds had already been sown and as the 1990's progressed the 1960's generation came into their own, and began taking over positions of responsibility. They are now dispersed throughout society. Many of them retain their anti-American hatreds and are in positions to act on them.

But they are not alone. One of the most important activities for both Nazism and Communism was to convert young people to their cause. These groups also look for all around perverts, who help diminish everything, and "useful idiots", people who can be used in certain situations.

But, where is the proof of this subversive, propaganda-driven behavior? Well, it's everywhere.

Without much effort we can identify numerous examples of subversion and propaganda:

1. One list of currently used propaganda techniques can be found HERE. The reader of mass media will immediately recognize many of these techniques.

2. During the Clinton administration our highest nuclear secrets were stolen by the Chinese. Given the sorry state of security at our labs, it is difficult to believe this was not intentional.

3. U.S. corporations were allowed to improve Chinese missile technology during the 1990's to the extent that Chinese missiles made improvements in a few years which should have taken decades.

4. Dan Rather's open attempt to derail a CURRENT presidential election with flagrantly falsified documents broadcast nationwide on the EVE of voting.

5. Jane Fonda, John Kerry, and so many others like them undermined the United States with lies and distortions in the 60's and 70's.

6. JUST LAST WEEK John Kerry made a bizarre claim that "our soldiers are terrorizing Iraqi children and women", a complete lie.

7. Senator Dick Durbin broadcast worldwide comments comparing our own soldiers and their mission to restrain and destroy global terrorism to the Nazis and their death camps, as well as to Soviet gulags and Pol Pot's Cambodian genocide.

Soviet and Nazi subversion techniques are an attempt to artificially speed up the natural aging of societies to the point that the society dies. Degrading the schools, art, religion, military, and government causes people to care a bit less about each one of these, to defend them less, to remember them less, and to question whether they really have any relationship with others in their "society".

Regular insults to all these institutions appear on TV, in movies, music, and in newspapers. But these insults are not designed to actually insult the institutions, rather they are designed to make a few more people turn away from something that now seems "worthless". Each put-down, and each act of turning away, is one more broken bond. As more people participate in this kind of assault, and as more bonds snap, the society moves faster and faster towards dissolution.

This occurs naturally as a result of time. The greatest societies ever made cannot last forever. But a process that should take centuries can be speeded up until it takes only decades. Through constant irritation, the natural death of a society can be artificially accelerated and provoked.

The society will one day be more dead than alive. At that time any subversive groups can make an attempt to take over a socially incohesive region with a dictatorship, keeping themselves in power as long as they can, doing whatever they want to anyone or anything. This has happened historically (Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, China, etc.). Dictatorship is the ultimate goal of all this subversion.


But how could people who try to undermine all these organizations on a regular basis possibly agree on how to divide up the spoils if they ultimately succeed? Well, they don't need to agree. How much each individual contributer will get depends on how close they are to the front of the line when the society finally falls.
And all along the way, each one of these participants can have a constant feeling of power over everyone who doesn't understand what the goal is. Having that feeling of power is part of the widespread attraction of this effort.

Bottom feeding perverts and people who are just being used by this "system" (like Cindy Sheehan) will also get (or be) a piece of meat, even if they just use up a neighbor or a friend.

No one is directing it, rather, for a variety of reasons, all participants have their eyes on one goal. So you can see that this effort is a monster without a head.

And the road to achieve this goal of a society's early destruction is propaganda. Propaganda techniques work, and have worked many times in the past.

So to answer the question from the title of this piece, a system. A system is controlling the propaganda in the media, and its purpose is to accelerate the death of a society.

The way to defeat this effort is first to be aware of it, second to understand it, and third to work everyday to drive these types of forces out of all organizations responsible for the continuation of culture; schools, religion, art, military, and government.

One should understand the everyday attacks on these organizations as being the lubricant which makes this dark system work. The attacks always focus only on things which successfully continue culture.

Purposefully continuing one's culture makes it immune to this dark system. All one needs to know is that their cultural icons are well cared for and functioning at peak performance. Making sure this is true is what protects the culture from any hidden assaults.

Propaganda pays huge dividends for a tiny investment. Neutralizing this will neutralize any effort against our society from these old techniques.

By stopping their use of propaganda with education, and by working actively to propagate the cultural aspects which we value, people of the subversive mindset will ultimately be suffocated. Then this second shock wave from the dark days of inhuman societies will burn itself out once and for all, to live on only in the history books.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: benedictarnolds; liberalmedia; mdm; msm; propaganda
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
It's not even about ratings. The MSM adheres to a recipe shown to produce declining ratings. Hollywood eschews more lucrative productions for those that embrace today's anti-American liberal culture. In short, ideology uber alles.

Same goes for corporations. For example Banks are falling all over themselves to make loans to illegals. That can't possibly be sound fianancial operation.

41 posted on 12/11/2005 7:16:08 AM PST by yarddog
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To: starbase

Interesting. [bookmarking to read more later]


42 posted on 12/11/2005 7:18:33 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: starbase

Well done, starbase!


43 posted on 12/11/2005 7:22:17 AM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: starbase
Something you didn't specifically mention although it is covered in some of the activities mentioned, is simple Pavlovian conditioning.

I suspect it is the basis for brainwashing although I have never really studied it.

As Pavlov conditioned his dog to salivate when a bell was rung by ringing the bell and feeding it at the same time, leftists are doing the same thing.

Conservative politician on TV sitcom, character is evil. Do this a few thousand times and when you see a conservative politician, what do you think?

Same thing is done with minorities always portrayed as better than Whites etc.

44 posted on 12/11/2005 7:24:22 AM PST by yarddog
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To: starbase; PeaceBeWithYou; nicmarlo; null and void
"No one is directing it, rather, for a variety of reasons, all participants have their eyes on one goal. So you can see that this effort is a monster without a head."

I disagree. There is a head; a director. And it is the same one who directed Nazism and Communism and every other evil regime and empire in human history. He has a name. Satan. He controls these systems.

"The way to defeat this effort is first to be aware of it, second to understand it, and third to work everyday to drive these types of forces out of all organizations responsible for the continuation of culture; schools, religion, art, military, and government."

You do a good job of pointing out what to do, but not how. Only by returning to the God that made us great as a nation because of our faith in Him can we hope to drive this evil out from among us and become, once again, the "shining city on the hill." We do not have the power apart from Him.

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. (Eph. 6:12)

But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love. (1 Corin. 13:13)

Very thoughtful article though. I enjoyed reading it.

45 posted on 12/11/2005 7:32:49 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: starbase

You need to submit this to USAToday and other papers. Also, see if you can get it published on some of the conservative web sites.


46 posted on 12/11/2005 7:33:59 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
n't Joseph Goebbels put on trial, found guilty and executed for his 'journalist actions'?

No.

47 posted on 12/11/2005 7:37:00 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: manwiththehands

"The America-hating hippie/socialist subculture that started in the 60's is now in power in the MSM and DemocRat party."

and they are the teachers in our schools and colleges. That's where the masses are taught to "rightfully" expect to see the tripe published in their news as "fact".

That sub-culture was hiding out in colleges, and never left.


48 posted on 12/11/2005 7:41:53 AM PST by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: lrb111

Yep. Forgot about the teachers and college professors.


49 posted on 12/11/2005 7:49:26 AM PST by manwiththehands ("Have a RamaHanuKwanzMas" - Glenn Beck (And Merry Christmas!))
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To: MillerCreek
"The public schools in the U.S. are saturated, SATURATED, with communist/marxist/socialist ideology and 'values,' if they can be called that."

Absolutely. If we could accomplish the complete privatization of education, we could go a long way to neutralize the evil designs of the left. Well, perhaps "designs" is giving them a bit too much credit. They're more like pawns of Satan really. Not an original idea in their tortured minds.

50 posted on 12/11/2005 7:56:27 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: purpleland
Which representatives from the MEDIA establishment have become "more coherent"??? More objectively critical?

No, I meant more orchestrated -- more like all playing off the same sheet of music.

51 posted on 12/11/2005 8:00:02 AM PST by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: sweetliberty

Bingo.


52 posted on 12/11/2005 8:14:19 AM PST by null and void (Peace on Earth. Death to the Terrorists...)
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To: cgbg

Nozick

He was one of my favorite profs--a diamond in the rough at the Kremlin on the Charles. :-)

*WOW! How fortunate you are to have had Robert Nozick for a professor. It's a wonder that true free thinking Nozick could survive at the "Kremlin on the Charles." I wonder if he ever entered into debates with Chomsky the Convoluted?


53 posted on 12/11/2005 8:21:16 AM PST by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: Bitsy

"I hope commie katie falls flat on her face!"

If nobody is tuned into CBS, and commie katie falls flat, will anyone hear it?


54 posted on 12/11/2005 8:23:49 AM PST by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: Paul C. Jesup; Chickensoup
"Wasn't Joseph Goebbels put on trial, found guilty and executed for his 'journalist actions'?"

No. He never went to trial.

He took the coward's way out and committed suicide while also taking the lives of his wife and little children.

Hermann Goering did go to trial...and eventually escaped the hangman's noose when cyanide was smuggled into his cell.

55 posted on 12/11/2005 8:24:46 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: GermanBusiness
"And it is true that a single car bomb in New York City would undo the efforts of 4 years of leftist propaganda."

I'm not so sure about that. Oh sure, those of us who have seen it all along would be saying, "see, I told you so," but the leftists would find a way to blame the adminsistration, conservatives and Christians in much the same way as they have done pretty much every evil that has befallen us since their golden boy predator president left office.

You've got to remember that these are the same people whose souls are so empty that they cheer when an assault rifle is shoved in the face of a terrified 7 year old boy on Easter morning, who blame their own countrymen when their offices and those of their mouthpieces in the media are targeted with Antrax threats, who can make the preposterous statement that somehow or other our own president was behind the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon, and who can look at a natural disaster and the suffering in its wake and accuse the president and the federal government of deliberately weakening the levees to target the poorest and blackest parts of New Orleans.

If a single individual made statements such as these to a psychiatrist, he'd be locked up and medicated. Yet we have these lunatics in positions of leadership and then wonder why we have such degradation in our culture. These people are pathologically deranged. Their mental growth has clearly been stunted and they possess the emotional maturity of the average 5 year old. Their lack of manners and self-discipline is deplorable and brings to mind the old saying, "children should be seen and not heard."

If a child behaved the way these liberal politicains do, their parents wouldn't take them out in public, certainly not into polite company, but we give them the national stage with which to make an international mockery of our internal problems, as well as to give our enemies in general, and terrorists in particular, lots of clues as to our weaknesses, suggestions for defeating us and assurance that they're on their side. Do you really think a silly little thing like a car bomb on a city street will alter their delusional perceptions? Well, perhaps if it was THEIR street in front of their own home, but I wouldn't even bet on that.

56 posted on 12/11/2005 8:32:09 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: starbase
In a hurry here -- but if anyone wants to know what's really going on in Iraq and Afghanistan, read the posts on anysolier.com. While the site was set up to send items to our hero soldiers fighting for us, there are some very interesting messages back from them. Go to "where to send" and start reading to the left. On 8 December 2005, Tobias C. Meister sent the following (only quoting part of his message to us):

Friday was the opening of the Fatima Girls School. This project has been a pain since I got here, but finally we have it completed and will be opening it soon. This is one of those projects started by the previous team about a year ago and dropped on me with little direction. The problems transcended the norm, you know…’where the contractor says it will take so long, and then it takes twice as long’. The contract and monies used for funding were screwed up, but Uncle Sam found a way to make things right, and did.

There was also two highschool girls that spoke. Both’s hands shook as they read from the speech they wrote out. One girl, poor thing, her whole body shook as she spoke. They were scared to death, not really of speaking, but, to me, what might happen to them for speaking. I was sitting on stage next to Rubie, our CAT-2 (American Citizen) Terp. She told me what the girls were saying. One of them asked that her brothers not take away the gift (the school) given to her, that they not beat her for wanting to learn, that they not keep her ignorant anymore. The other girl recited a poem she wrote. I’ll probably get it wrong, but it went something like the following. “We are coming out of a dark winter. The school is my spring. Here we will plant flowers and grow.” Then she mentioned something about her hands being bloodied since as long as she has known, but now the coalition brought her a cloth to wash her hands with, and then she asked that her brothers help her wash the blood from them.

There are those things you never forget. This is one.

***

When the ‘American’ reporter asked our CAT-2 Terp (interpretor) if she was disgusted by having to work with American troops doing such ‘terrible things’ to ‘her’ country, she replied shortly, “Are you kidding?”.

He and other heros have posted so much more. I/we owe them big time. My heart is full of love for those guys and gals over there.

57 posted on 12/11/2005 8:33:39 AM PST by EverOnward
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To: Puddleglum

"Which representatives from the MEDIA establishment have become "more coherent"??? More objectively critical?"

No, I meant more orchestrated -- more like all playing off the same sheet of music.

*Hell, they've always played off the same sheet. That was the first clue 30 years ago. The MEDIA has always presented the news as cohesive puppet acts featuring anchor fronts. If I wanted to get the leftist viewpoint and the dysinformative focus of the day, I had a wide choice of unithink sources: Rather, Jennings, Brokaw, Cronkite, et al.


58 posted on 12/11/2005 8:36:23 AM PST by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: starbase
Good observations: It DID start with the Communist machines in the twenties, gained power during the 50's at State, the UN, and socialized Europe.

Then into the universities and colleges - where "truth" became Pravda" ... So the student are taught, and the professors BELIEVE (as religious-level faith) in their form of "truth".

The media, the culture is now in lockstep.

Question is: Can we avoid the blood and games (bread and circuses) that were typical of the fall of Greece and of Rome?
59 posted on 12/11/2005 8:41:42 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: yarddog

"Something you didn't specifically mention although it is covered in some of the activities mentioned, is simple Pavlovian conditioning."

Pavlovian conditioning explains the reflexive dyscognitive verbosities of both mad-as-a-hatter Howard Dean and UnFit Maoist John Kerry.


60 posted on 12/11/2005 8:44:18 AM PST by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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