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Katrina Death Stats Contradict Racial Complaints
NewsMax.com ^ | Dec. 12, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 12/12/2005 9:00:53 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax

The popular perception that African-Americans living in New Orleans were disproportionately victimized by the government's botched Hurricane Katrina rescue effort turns out not to be true - at least according to preliminary death statistics released by the state of Louisiana.

On Wednesday, Congress heard dramatic testimony from black Katrina survivors, who complained that racism drove the federal rescue efforts and resulted in an unnecessarily high number of African-American deaths.

"People were allowed to die," storm survivor Leah Hodges testified, telling a House panel that black residents of New Orleans had been victims of "genocide and ethnic cleansing."

But preliminary figures compiled by the morgue in St. Gabriel, Louisiana, which is the primary facility handling the bodies of Katrina deceased, show that a majority of the dead in New Orleans and surrounding parishes were actually not black.

Of the 883 bodies processed so far by medical examiners at St. Gabriel, 562 have been identified by race. Slightly less than half that number - 48 percent - are African-American.

Forty-one percent are white, 8 percent unknown and 2 percent Hispanic.

The remarkable numbers, which undermine claims that Katrina rescue efforts were somehow infused by racism, have been completely ignored by the national media, with only the Lousiana-based news web site, The Bayou Buzz, devoting any coverage at all to the story.

The surprisingly low death rate for black Katrina victims comes despite the fact that New Orleans itself was more than two-thirds black [67 percent] when the storm hit. White residents made up less than a third [28 percent] of the city's population, according to U.S. Census bureau numbers.

The two hardest hit areas were Orleans parish, which is the city itself - with 720 people killed by Katrina - and St. Bernard parish, with 123 dead.

St. Bernard parish is 88 percent white, but the total population before the storm was just 65,554 people. The city of New Orleans, on the other hand, had 484,674 people before the storm, 67 percent of whom were black.

The two populations combined were still over 60 percent black - twelve points higher than the percentage of black residents killed by Katrina.

To view the statistics on Katrina dead released by the state of Louisiana, go to: http://www.dhh.louisiana.gov/offices/publications/pubs-145/DECEASED%20Victims%20released_11-14-2005_publication.pdf


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; genocide; katrina; katrinaprobe; racism; stgabriel
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1 posted on 12/12/2005 9:00:54 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax
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To: Carl/NewsMax

It's great to have this statistic. So much for the Bush administration let blacks die. I see that more whites died than black in New Orleans during Katrina and won't forget that tidbit the next time we hear some leftist complaining about Republican bigotry in responding to natural disasters.


2 posted on 12/12/2005 9:03:09 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
We'll have to see how Big Media reports the alarming news.

Hope the guys at Accuracy in Media keep us informed.

3 posted on 12/12/2005 9:04:45 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Carl/NewsMax
White residents made up less than a third [28 percent] of the city's population... of 562 [that] have been identified by race... Forty-one percent are white...

It only shows nature is racist. It killed more whites than it should.

4 posted on 12/12/2005 9:11:35 AM PST by paudio (Merry Christmas)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Some of the bodies were "African-American"?

How could they tell they weren't visiting from Africa or some other place?

How can you tell where someone is born, with out an ID card?

Could some of been African-Africans?

5 posted on 12/12/2005 9:12:23 AM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

BTTT


6 posted on 12/12/2005 9:12:34 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Excellent work, Carl.


7 posted on 12/12/2005 9:16:31 AM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Here's the link to Louisiana's Dept of Health and Hospitals with statistics on hurricane related deaths. It was updated on Friday, Dec. 9th.

Katrina Statistics - Louisiana
8 posted on 12/12/2005 9:18:07 AM PST by elc
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Katrina Death Stats Contradict Racial Complaints

Facts ALWAYS contradict racial compaints.
Democrat's complaints, too.
But I repeat myself.

9 posted on 12/12/2005 9:18:25 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: Ellesu; caryatid; CajunConservative

*Ping*


10 posted on 12/12/2005 9:23:12 AM PST by LA Woman3 ("Don't blame me......I voted for Jindal" www.lagop.com)
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To: Mark was here

Some could have been Black-Creole and they look down on African-Americans.


11 posted on 12/12/2005 9:23:24 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Mark was here
Some of the bodies were "African-American"?

Well, I thought 'hispanics' were white... stupid me... When did 'hispanic' become a race? How is someone from Spain racially different than someone from Portugal or France?

12 posted on 12/12/2005 9:23:47 AM PST by killjoy (Same Shirt, Different Day)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

What a relief. How horrible it would have been if more of the dead had been black. Since so many whites were killed, I guess it's not as bad.

Hmmm?


13 posted on 12/12/2005 9:25:38 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: paudio

no no no... it shows nature is 'progressive'


14 posted on 12/12/2005 9:25:50 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: killjoy
Well, I thought 'hispanics' were white... stupid me... When did 'hispanic' become a race? How is someone from Spain racially different than someone from Portugal or France?

I happened to see a box of Wheaties the other day. It had a picture of Roberto Clemente on the front, with the words "First Hispanic inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame." I always thought that Roberto was Black. Silly me!

15 posted on 12/12/2005 9:29:22 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism cannot survive in a free and open society.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Orleans-Louisiana.html

Population (year 2000): 484,674, Est. population in July 2004: 462,269 (-4.6% change)
Males: 227,094 (46.9%), Females: 257,580 (53.1%)

Median resident age: 33.1 years
Median household income: $27,133 (year 2000)
Median house value: $87,300 (year 2000)

Races in New Orleans:
Black (67.3%)
White Non-Hispanic (26.6%)
Hispanic (3.1%)
Vietnamese (1.5%)
Two or more races (1.3%)
Other race (0.9%)
American Indian (0.5%)
16 posted on 12/12/2005 9:29:57 AM PST by LA Woman3 ("Don't blame me......I voted for Jindal" www.lagop.com)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Of course, this stat ingnores the hundreds that died in Mississippi, probably most of them white.


17 posted on 12/12/2005 9:32:00 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Santa Claus is an illegal alien.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
"Of the 883 bodies processed so far by medical examiners at St. Gabriel, 562 have been identified by race. Slightly less than half that number - 48 percent - are African-American."

Oopsies. Do you think the liberal fanatics in the media will issue an apology to white America?

18 posted on 12/12/2005 9:33:07 AM PST by Reactionary (The Stalinist Media is the Enemy)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Of the 883 bodies processed so far by medical examiners at St. Gabriel, 562 have been identified by race. Slightly less than half that number - 48 percent - are African-American.

Uh...well.. that 52% musta' gotten in the way of that 48% that Bush wanted to kill.

19 posted on 12/12/2005 9:41:52 AM PST by mikeus_maximus (Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still evil.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Free Tookie!!! Free Tookie!!! DOn't be Kill'in a man of peace!!! Free Tookie--

or else I'm gonna put a cap in your a__ B--ch!!!

ah-ight?


20 posted on 12/12/2005 9:43:14 AM PST by emiller
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To: Carl/NewsMax

George Bush hates white people too? Who knew?

/sarcasm


21 posted on 12/12/2005 9:44:07 AM PST by FEARED MUTATION
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To: Cowboy Bob
How is someone from Spain racially different than someone from Portugal or France?

They're not, but that IS a separate race... known scientifically as Yellow Spined Pacifists. Some have settled in this country too, mostly on the east and wests coasts.

22 posted on 12/12/2005 9:44:32 AM PST by mikeus_maximus (Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still evil.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Thank you.


23 posted on 12/12/2005 9:45:38 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: Peach

I certainly don't believe racism was a motivating factor, but don't expect these numbers to convince anyone. The actual deaths are largely nursing home residents. The reason many of them are white is because while New Orleans is mostly black, there are many whites in the suburbs who tend to go into the city, as they do for most things except affordable housing in safe neighborhoods, for nursing homes.

The complaint about racial discrimination is not focussed on who died, or allegations that they were lifting out white people but not black people. Rather, the notion is that the federal governments' response would have been better if the people at risk were wealthier or whiter. And yes, many poor black people do conflate race and economic class, believing that rich/white people would do more for poor people if they were more like themselves. And Republicans hurt themselves if they treat this association as illogical; there's a lot of poor white people, but what inner-city blacks see of the world is poor black people and the rich, white people who drive past them.

Further, New Orleans is, itself, a city known for poor, black people. Its residents will compare itself to the wealthy "white" people of lower Manhattan. The presence of non-white immigrants in lower Manhattan doesn't help Manhattan to be seen as a less white city. And Harlem in the North of Manhattan simply isn't the same city.

Republicans aren't going to make any headway against this argument that they are uncaring rich, white people this way. Nor will they by attacking Nagin. (His failures are self-evident to anyone who might be swayed.) Rather, they simply need to emphasize what they did do, but that people don't know that they did... like the air left of so many people to safety (what was it, 80,000?), the plans to fortify the levees which the city rejected, and the successful efforts of the non-governmental actions. Let's not forget that we are the party of concerned, God-fearing people voluntarily doing what we can, against the party of "leave it all up to the government."

"The nine scariest words in the English langauge [are] 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'... Government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem."

-- Ronald Reagan.


24 posted on 12/12/2005 9:57:13 AM PST by dangus
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To: Carl/NewsMax
You mean there weren't any mass graves and concentration camps?
25 posted on 12/12/2005 10:05:01 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Limbacher's kinda late.

We Freepers knew this back in October:

.........Forty-two percent of the identified victims were black, 37 percent white and 3 percent Hispanic, the report said. The remaining 18 percent weren't identified by race or ethnicity......

BREAKING NEWS - ((Wonder why it wasn't in the headline??)

In a city 68% black, 42% of the victims were black!

Jesse, turn your bus around, no more race baiting in NOLA!




4 posted on 10/24/2005 1:48:42 PM EDT by aShepard


26 posted on 12/12/2005 10:14:03 AM PST by aShepard (I ben lookin at dat fine plasma set in da window!)
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To: dangus

"the notion is that the federal governments' response would have been better if the people at risk were wealthier or whiter. And yes, many poor black people do conflate race and economic class, believing that rich/white people would do more for poor people if they were more like themselves."

Sometimes there's not much incentive for elected officials in poor black municipalities to work constructively with an administration. They get called sell-outs by political rivals. How do you get re-elected when you're Hitler's house negro?

If those municipalities would be friendlier to the federal government, then yeah, the government's response might be better than if there was an adversarial relationship.


27 posted on 12/12/2005 10:35:22 AM PST by james500
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To: Carl/NewsMax
But preliminary figures compiled by the morgue in St. Gabriel, Louisiana, which is the primary facility handling the bodies of Katrina deceased, show that a majority of the dead in New Orleans and surrounding parishes were actually not black.

I hate when this happens. Imagine, the MSM ignoring facts and figures.

28 posted on 12/12/2005 10:39:57 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

And don't forget: While blacks may be a minority of the entire US population-they are a substancial majority (or were) in the city of New Orleans.


29 posted on 12/12/2005 10:43:27 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign surprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: Mo1

Unfortunately the bodies all washed out into the gulf and sharks ate the evidence.


30 posted on 12/12/2005 10:48:41 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign surprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Oh


31 posted on 12/12/2005 10:49:31 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1

LOL!


32 posted on 12/12/2005 10:51:54 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign surprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

But... but... Kanye West SAID Bush doesn't care about blacks, so that must be true!

/sarcasm

Thanks for the thread!


33 posted on 12/12/2005 10:54:18 AM PST by Capagrl (Never argue with stupid people; they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
This story is just like what happens when you feed a stray cat. It never goes away.


34 posted on 12/12/2005 11:02:16 AM PST by rdb3 (I have named my greatest pain, and its name is Leftism.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Of the 883 bodies processed so far by medical examiners at St. Gabriel, 562 have been identified by race. Slightly less than half that number - 48 percent - are African-American.
Forty-one percent are white, 8 percent unknown and 2 percent Hispanic.


-----So much for just letting the blacks die. Now what excuse are they going to use.
*****Give them a few minutes, they are running out of them.


35 posted on 12/12/2005 12:08:47 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Carl, I doubt this important statistic will mute the debate. The race baiters don't care how many died, they claim the response was slow because NO is heavily black or at least has the perception of being a "black town". The perception led to the racism that kept help from being generated. Libs are never concerned with results, only perceptions and appearances. If they have to be accountable for results, well, they might have to get a real job.

This stat will never see the light of day in the media because it mitigates their argument (which mitigates their power) and will end up reducing the amount of money they can extort out of the Fed.

36 posted on 12/12/2005 12:31:55 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: rdb3

Isn't that the truth. There's been so many lies, distortions and agenda driven madness that the truth has been severely mangled.

Too many people died and it doesn't matter what their race or gender was either. In this day and age the fact that over 1000 people perished in the US from a hurricane is sad.


37 posted on 12/12/2005 12:38:36 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: paudio

Sorry, it just shows that they who were in charge, they who were responsible and those who were SUPPOSSED to be accountable didn't care for the underpriveleged any more than they cared for them on the streets, when they were being preyed on by their peers.


38 posted on 12/12/2005 12:39:21 PM PST by Safetgiver (Noone spoke when the levee done broke, Blanco cried and Nagin lied.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax; abb; alnick; Bitsy; bigeasy_70118; Bogey780; CajunConservative; caryatid; ...
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39 posted on 12/12/2005 12:46:31 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: CajunConservative
Isn't that the truth. There's been so many lies, distortions and agenda driven madness that the truth has been severely mangled.

Indeed. And that goes for both the Left and Right.


40 posted on 12/12/2005 12:57:57 PM PST by rdb3 (I have named my greatest pain, and its name is Leftism.)
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To: rdb3

Oh I agree that both sides are guilty of agenda driven "news".


41 posted on 12/12/2005 1:29:19 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: killjoy

"Well, I thought 'hispanics' were white... stupid me... When did 'hispanic' become a race? How is someone from Spain racially different than someone from Portugal or France?"

I think this started with the Clinton administration. I first noticed it then. They do some really goofy things wtih race quotas on federal applications, etc. Mixing up ethnicity with race for example.


42 posted on 12/12/2005 1:56:36 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: dangus
Rather, they simply need to emphasize what they did do, but that people don't know that they did...

exactly right!

43 posted on 12/12/2005 4:37:01 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: LA Woman3

So whites died in disproportionate numbers to their actual numbers in the city?


44 posted on 12/12/2005 4:40:26 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
So whites died in disproportionate numbers to their actual numbers in the city?

It appears that way....
45 posted on 12/12/2005 4:52:36 PM PST by LA Woman3 ("Don't blame me......I voted for Jindal" www.lagop.com)
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To: Howlin
So whites died in disproportionate numbers to their actual numbers in the city?

Careful. Someone might call you a racist. ;)

46 posted on 12/12/2005 5:24:48 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Cowboy Bob; Kirkwood
I happened to see a box of Wheaties the other day. It had a picture of Roberto Clemente on the front, with the words "First Hispanic inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame." I always thought that Roberto was Black. Silly me!

I guess 'hispanic' is more politically correct than 'mullato'. Here in Thailand, I am so happy I don't have to put up with this crap. I have run into a few uber-liberals from the US here and it is a lot of fun to see how angry they get when put into an extremely un-PC environment.

47 posted on 12/12/2005 6:09:13 PM PST by killjoy (Same Shirt, Different Day)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Great statistic to use for future arguments. Thanks.


48 posted on 12/12/2005 8:57:28 PM PST by StarFan
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Seems that blacks in New Orleans were a lot more self sufficient than folks tried to make them.


49 posted on 12/13/2005 8:11:04 AM PST by Shade2
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To: Carl/NewsMax
The remarkable numbers, which undermine claims that Katrina rescue efforts were somehow infused by racism, have been completely ignored by the national media,

That ought to be the real story.

susie

50 posted on 12/13/2005 1:08:01 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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