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Iranian Alert - December 13, 2005 - Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran
Regime Change Iran ^ | 12.132005 | DoctorZin

Posted on 12/12/2005 5:28:05 PM PST by DoctorZIn

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Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran


ISRAEL’S armed forces have been ordered by Ariel Sharon, the prime minister, to be ready by the end of March for possible strikes on secret uranium enrichment sites in Iran, military sources have revealed.

The order came after Israeli intelligence warned the government that Iran was operating enrichment facilities, believed to be small and concealed in civilian locations.

Iran’s stand-off with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) over nuclear inspections and aggressive rhetoric from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, who said last week that Israel should be moved to Europe, are causing mounting concern.

The crisis is set to come to a head in early March, when Mohamed El-Baradei, the head of the IAEA, will present his next report on Iran. El-Baradei, who received the Nobel peace prize yesterday, warned that the world was “losing patience” with Iran.

A senior White House source said the threat of a nuclear Iran was moving to the top of the international agenda and the issue now was: “What next?” That question would have to be answered in the next few months, he said.

Defence sources in Israel believe the end of March to be the “point of no return” after which Iran will have the technical expertise to enrich uranium in sufficient quantities to build a nuclear warhead in two to four years.

“Israel — and not only Israel — cannot accept a nuclear Iran,” Sharon warned recently. “We have the ability to deal with this and we’re making all the necessary preparations to be ready for such a situation.”

The order to prepare for a possible attack went through the Israeli defence ministry to the chief of staff. Sources inside special forces command confirmed that “G” readiness — the highest stage — for an operation was announced last week.

Gholamreza Aghazadeah, head of the Atomic Organisation of Iran, warned yesterday that his country would produce nuclear fuel. “There is no doubt that we have to carry out uranium enrichment,” he said.

He promised it would not be done during forthcoming talks with European negotiators. But although Iran insists it wants only nuclear energy, Israeli intelligence has concluded it is deceiving the world and has no intention of giving up what it believes is its right to develop nuclear weapons.

A “massive” Israeli intelligence operation has been underway since Iran was designated the “top priority for 2005”, according to security sources.

Cross-border operations and signal intelligence from a base established by the Israelis in northern Iraq are said to have identified a number of Iranian uranium enrichment sites unknown to the the IAEA.

Since Israel destroyed the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981, “it has been understood that the lesson is, don’t have one site, have 50 sites”, a White House source said.

If a military operation is approved, Israel will use air and ground forces against several nuclear targets in the hope of stalling Tehran’s nuclear programme for years, according to Israeli military sources.

It is believed Israel would call on its top special forces brigade, Unit 262 — the equivalent of the SAS — and the F-15I strategic 69 Squadron, which can strike Iran and return to Israel without refuelling.

“If we opt for the military strike,” said a source, “it must be not less than 100% successful. It will resemble the destruction of the Egyptian air force in three hours in June 1967.”

Aharon Zeevi Farkash, the Israeli military intelligence chief, stepped up the pressure on Iran this month when he warned Israel’s parliament, the Knesset, that “if by the end of March the international community is unable to refer the Iranian issue to the United Nations security council, then we can say the international effort has run its course”.

The March deadline set for military readiness also stems from fears that Iran is improving its own intelligence-gathering capability. In October it launched its first satellite, the Sinah-1, which was carried by a Russian space launcher.

“The Iranians’ space programme is a matter of deep concern to us,” said an Israeli defence source. “If and when we launch an attack on several Iranian targets, the last thing we need is Iranian early warning received by satellite.”

Russia last week signed an estimated $1 billion contract — its largest since 2000 — to sell Iran advanced Tor-M1 systems capable of destroying guided missiles and laser-guided bombs from aircraft.

“Once the Iranians get the Tor-M1, it will make our life much more difficult,” said an Israeli air force source. “The installation of this system can be relatively quick and we can’t waste time on this one.”

The date set for possible Israeli strikes on Iran also coincides with Israel’s general election on March 28, prompting speculation that Sharon may be sabre-rattling for votes.

Benjamin Netanyahu, the frontrunner to lead Likud into the elections, said that if Sharon did not act against Iran, “then when I form the new Israeli government, we’ll do what we did in the past against Saddam’s reactor, which gave us 20 years of tranquillity”.

TEHRAN MINISTER MET MILITANTS BEFORE NEW OFFENSIVE

Iran’s foreign minister met leading figures from three Islamic militant groups to co-ordinate a united front against Israel days before a recent escalation of attacks against Israeli targets shattered fragile ceasefires with Lebanon and the Palestinians, writes Hugh Macleod in Damascus.

The minister, Manouchehr Mottaki, held talks with leaders of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah in Damascus on November 15.

Among those who attended the meeting were Khaled Meshaal, the Hamas leader, and a deputy leader of Islamic Jihad, which claimed responsibility for last Monday’s suicide bombing of a shopping mall in Netanya that killed five Israeli citizens.

Ahmed Jibril, leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine- General Command, was also present. “We all confirmed that what is going on in occupied Palestine is organically connected to what is going on in Iraq, Syria, Iran and Lebanon,” said Jibril.

Seven days after the talks, Hezbollah fired a volley of rockets and mortars at Israeli targets, sparking the fiercest fighting between the two sides since Israel’s withdrawal from south Lebanon five years ago.

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  • Iran Press News reported that the Islamic regime's radio praised Ahmadinejads anti-Semitic comments calling them “accordant with Islamic rule”.
  • Iran Press News reported that political prisoner Mehrdad Lohrasbi suffers grave illness in the horrific Rejaiishahr prison.
  • Iran Press News reported that the Islamic regime publicly executes a man on International Human Rights Day.
  • BBC News reported that a group of Iranian MPs launched an attempt to sack the country's defence minister over the crash of a military plane in Tehran on Tuesday.
  • Mark Steyn, Chicago Sun reviewed the international response to Ahamdinejad's recent statements on Israel.
  • FOX News reported that Iran offered the United States a share in building a new nuclear power plant.
  • Newsweek International reported on the new military capabilities Iran will gain from its billion dollar purchase of Russian weapon systems.
  • Servihoo.com reported that Iran's parliament approved President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's fourth nominee for oil minister, the ministry's current caretaker Kazem Vaziri-Hamaneh, ending a three-month-old dispute over the key post.
  • Dean George, The IndyStar reviewed Ken Timmerman's book: "Countdown to Crisis: The Coming Nuclear Showdown with Iran."
  • And finally, Reuters reported that the Iranian regime is "shocked" by the international reaction to Ahmadinejad's remarks on Israel.


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1 posted on 12/12/2005 5:28:12 PM PST by DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 12/12/2005 5:29:31 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn
“Israel — and not only Israel — cannot accept a nuclear Iran,”

Yep. The mullahs better be nervous, very nervous.

3 posted on 12/12/2005 5:31:35 PM PST by b4its2late (The only substitute for good manners is faster reflexes.)
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To: DoctorZIn

Well if I was getting ready to attack someone you wouldn't be reading about it in adavance :-)


4 posted on 12/12/2005 5:33:23 PM PST by AZRepublican
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5 posted on 12/12/2005 5:35:21 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: AZRepublican

I agree, Why doesn't the media tell the Iranians exactly when Israel is taking off, what routes they will be flying, etc. Jeez !!! This will be a mess !


6 posted on 12/12/2005 5:37:59 PM PST by Pedrobud (Bush- Grow a sack and fight back !!!!!)
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To: AZRepublican

Methinks sometime next month.


7 posted on 12/12/2005 5:39:57 PM PST by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Pedrobud
I agree, Why doesn't the media tell the Iranians exactly when Israel is taking off, what routes they will be flying, etc. Jeez !!!

Oh, don't worry - you can always count on CNN!!
8 posted on 12/12/2005 5:42:49 PM PST by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: Pedrobud

Feed them new info every couple of days. The Iranians will be running around like chickens with their heads cut off.


9 posted on 12/12/2005 5:51:43 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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To: DoctorZIn
There have been a few other threads earlier on making this same announcement. It is misinformation as for as I am concerned.
To begin with Israel has no northern airforce base in Iraq as was made known in the original article posted at FR, and surely the Americans are only serving in Iraq at the pleasure of the IIG. We have no right to authorize over flights by Israel. And surely the Iraqi are not going to authorize the Israelis to use their air space, nor will Saudi Arabia. So this baloney we have been reading about those F15 and F16's now having Israeli designed conformal tanks is all meaningless. The range required to fly down from the gulf of Aqaba into the red sea south into the Indian Ocean then eastward past the gulf of Edan all the way around the bottom of Saudi Arabia into the Persian gulf is OVER 3000 NAUTICAL MILES EACH WAY. Don't believe me. Get a map of this region and a protractor and see for oneself.
Now once within a prescribed area of the Persian gulf their air wings would have to branch out to their targets, some being easily 500 miles plus to and then 500 back to the sea, etc.. So clearly this flight path far exceeds the capabilities of the aircraft in question unless they had refueling tankers circling at prescribed waypoints in the Indian Ocean.
So I don't know why these articles are being produced. They carry no weight. And the Iranians know this.
10 posted on 12/12/2005 5:52:11 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: AZRepublican

From King of the Hill:

(Bobby sees a bully picking on a little kid)
Bobby: Leave him alone!
Bully: Back off. This is none of your business.
Bobby: Well, I'm making it my business.
Bully: What are you gonna do? Are you gonna kick me in the nads?
Bobby: Am I gonna do it? Yes. When am I gonna do it? Don't know. Could be tomorrow...now!
(Bobby kicks the bully in the testicles.)
Bobby: One thing you'll find out about me is that I'm not a very patient person.


11 posted on 12/12/2005 5:53:15 PM PST by JillValentine (To be compassionate to the cruel is to be cruel to the compassionate.)
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To: AZRepublican
"Well if I was getting ready to attack someone you wouldn't be reading about it in adavance :-)"

I suspect that the Israelis are ready to do this tomorrow if necessary and are just giving the lunatics in Iran fair warning. As for Iranian satellites, we've had the ability for years to shoot them down with weapons launched from high flying fighter craft. I would be surprised if the Israelis have not developed a similar capability.

12 posted on 12/12/2005 5:55:04 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
You assume that there are not people in the world that would look the other way to an overflight. Or for that matter the presence of several American training flights of tankers at some key locations along the way. If you think that everyone in Iraq is in love with the idea of Iranians having nuclear weapons, you are sadly mistaken.
13 posted on 12/12/2005 6:00:15 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: DoctorZIn
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14 posted on 12/12/2005 6:04:23 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

The reason that we are not "finishing him off" is because our leaders refuse to acknowledge who the real enemy is. Can you say Islam! We're fighting the symptom and not the disease.


15 posted on 12/12/2005 6:11:05 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Desron13
"If you think that everyone in Iraq is in love with the idea of Iranians having nuclear weapons, you are sadly mistaken." I repect others views. Just pointing out the reality. There is no way the Iraqi government would allow this. And if you remember last month, or perhaps a month plus a week or two, the Iraqi government announced American troops where not permitted to attack Syria from Iraqi soil. Plain and simple.
Unless the IAF where granted overflight across Iraq, this is all just baloney. IF there is some deals going down. GREAT! Semper Fi to the IAF! Love em. That is my take and I stand by the rather terse and non detailed flight paths I described. What some of us have obviously brought out and you probably where amoungst us earlier on, is that they could use sub launched cruise missiles. But that is no promise much damage would be accomplished. Some of us seem to forget if the uranium enrichment process plants have been moved into deep rock strata sites, nothing is going to get at them including the a 20 megaton hydrogen device. But I would grant the idea the breeder reactor could be taken out by conventional airstrikes much like they did back in 81, once the ground air defense networks where taken out and any MiGs/Flankers dropped.
I just question the validity of these supposed future plans as carrying much credence. Perhaps I shall be proven wrong, and that is fine with me.
16 posted on 12/12/2005 6:12:14 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle
"If you think that everyone in Iraq is in love with the idea of Iranians having nuclear weapons, you are sadly mistaken." I repect others views. Just pointing out the reality. There is no way the Iraqi government would allow this. And if you remember last month, or perhaps a month plus a week or two, the Iraqi government announced American troops where not permitted to attack Syria from Iraqi soil. Plain and simple."

Please let me point out that we would be attacking no one. As for the Iraqis, I seriously doubt that they have any ability to know just who is flying through their air space at this time. The lunatics in Iran cannot be allowed to acquire atomic weapons. Do we at least agree on this?

17 posted on 12/12/2005 6:20:35 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Desron13
"... Do we at least agree on this?" Yes. And your statement about the Iraqi's not even knowning what the hell is going on is right on in this regards. Unless their military has been actively using what SAM sites for instance may still be intack to monitor some of their airspace. But S13 would you not agree that if the IAF where to be granted overflight in Jordan then obviously flying over northern Al Anbar flying over north Iraq then splitting up toward northern Iran and downward along the mountain ranges to the southern sites in Iran and those in the far south east, the Iraqi would not know quickly what happened. The Iranians for one would be screaming their nuts off as their radar grid start picking up the air wings on ingress to their targets, as well as their egress paths.
Like I said perhaps some deals are being arranged. GOOD. Yes I would like to see Iran's total military and communications infrastructure totally removed by air strikes. I make no bones about it. Off course Vlad after a few moments at the press condeming the atrocities would as he smiles of mike get out his blackberry and start making calls for new deals to be arranged to rebuild the Iranian air defense nets with new and ahhheeeemmmm improved air defense hardware.
I only question the idea Israel would be brash enough to overfly Iraq without permission. That has been my whole take on the matter.
18 posted on 12/12/2005 6:30:45 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: AZRepublican

I agree- except for one thing:
It's Israel. They seem to need to warn everyone they are going to raise some backlash.


19 posted on 12/12/2005 6:35:57 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: DoctorZIn

Just voted for today. Thanks for the daily reminder. :-)


20 posted on 12/12/2005 6:37:16 PM PST by Reborn
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To: Marine_Uncle
I suspect that they will get tacit permission and the howells of Iran will be hopefully covered up by the mourning of some of their more rabid politicians being killed in the raid. Just how good is our intelligence and just how many Iranians have turned. Thats the real question. If our intelligence services are really as incompetent as they appear, we're in for a bumpy ride anyway.
21 posted on 12/12/2005 6:41:59 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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22 posted on 12/12/2005 6:44:54 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Desron13
Addendum: Most important is our will to kill the people who are planning to kill u;. The survival instinct is very strong among the survivable. If we truly lack it, we wont.
23 posted on 12/12/2005 6:44:59 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: DoctorZIn

One can only pray that Israel doesn't act alone,
and that WE are successful.


24 posted on 12/12/2005 6:46:47 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: b4its2late

Israel should be moved to Europe.

All Israeli's to France. All French to Israel.

Seems like a winner.

Alternately, swap IRAN and Israel?

Or maybe Israel to Zimbabwee (Rhodesia) and Mugabe and all to Israel.

Should help promote diversity.


25 posted on 12/12/2005 6:49:58 PM PST by OldArmy52
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To: Marine_Uncle
I think it is interesting that the conventional wisdom was that Entebbe was too far away for Israel to rescue the hostages... they did it...without gaining permission from nations. Kenya did allow them to refuel on the way back.

Same thing happened in Iraq. They did not seek overflight permission, they retrofitted their aircraft with the fuel tanks necessary to make the trip.

If Israel decides to take out the nukes, they won't seek permission, they will retrofit their aircraft to make the trips, or make a secret deal to refuel somewhere...maybe with their own tankers...

Again, they have flown over enemy territory before, without permission, and without detection...

Never underestimate their ingenuity... their skill...or their determination.

26 posted on 12/12/2005 6:51:05 PM PST by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: Desron13

Did you miss your reply to my post?


27 posted on 12/12/2005 6:57:45 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Desron13
"If our intelligence services are really as incompetent as they appear, we're in for a bumpy ride anyway."
Don't forget our military Intel don't take steps to put our guys in harms way unless they are certain of success. We have our Storming Normans, but they go into hollywood mode once G2 gives the go ahead. Surely Mossad would not deceive the IAF nor the USAF if things where really going down. But I still think these public announcements are misinformation. If the Israelis where planning such a mission no one in the world would have a clue until after the fact. I hope you don't equate the CIA, NSA etc. to our Army,Navy/Marine, Airforce Intel groups. But are we not digressing a bit. The issue is if Israel is really planning an attacked on various nuclear and support facilities in Iran. Like I say I am negative on the accuracy of these articles, but not on the need to lay waste to the Iranian entities short of killing their peoples in nuclear strikes targeting civilian populations. The question remains. How does one take these goons out. Same goes for Syria. Anyone with a little political savy understands we just can't be mashing these countries up without in essense undoing the good this administration is attempting to accomplish in Iraq.
IMHO, Iraq was a very special case, ripe for so many good reasons, with the local geography and proximity to the Persian gulf to pull off what we did. It will not be the same in Iran and Syria. With Iran short of total multi divisions making landings and air drops from the Persian gulf then tanking up to Theran with all that goes with this type ground air warfare, I see little chance of taking these regieme out unless it is done by counter revolution.
28 posted on 12/12/2005 6:59:35 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: carton253
"...Same thing happened in Iraq. They did not seek overflight permission, they retrofitted their aircraft with the fuel tanks necessary to make the trip."
The African deal was far different. A simple commando raid on an airport. The 81 strikes on the Osirik nuclear plant was carefully thought out with the knowledge they would be returning on jet fuel fumes at best. As you probably where aware they flew the whole way once entering northern Saudi airspace just below ground clutter, and and rather low speeds, under 350 knots the whole way in, and not much more on at the higher altitudes I believe over 18K on engress. It was a risk.
This time around it would be an entirely different proposition. One would not be going in with just eight F16s and six F15s, flying at super low altitudes the whole way in. Grant you if they can make arrangements with the Iraqis to overfly as well as with the Jordanians then OK, they can pull it off, at least take out above ground facilities such as the main reactor, but they are not going to eliminate all the stuff that has been moving underground. And the Russkies will just build them another reactor(s).
I just don't think they are going to be given permission from the US to overfly Iraq. It would really piss off the Iraqis at this point. And greatly undermine what we are trying to do in Iraq. Let us not forget, the Arab and Persians don't think the same as say Americans do when it comes to bombing the hell out of another Muslim country. Saddam is gone. The Iraqis in majority are not hell bent on attacking Iran. Are they? I just see how easy it is going to be for Israel to just fly over three soverign countries and get away with it, since they have not been directly attacked by none of the three, let alone world opinion slipping back to be totally against them instead of just partly against them. Sticky situation to say the least. And lastly if you where the Israeli government and military would you be forcasting when you are going to attack Iran?
Something is not right here.
29 posted on 12/12/2005 7:15:30 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Heck no, I wouldn't advertise it. That's why I don't believe the article. Last thing I want to do is alert anyone.

The African deal wasn't that far different. 1976, four Hercules and a command Boeing all flying low, under the radar into countries that would not give the Israelis fly over rights. If it were not from Kenya, they might not have been able to do it.

What I'm suggesting is that the Israelis are an imaginative, determined, and plucky bunch. I would not put limits to what they can and will do when their security is at risk.

Besides the US... who else could pull it over. And who, knows...The Jordanians might agree...and who knows, the Iraqis might agree also. They might not want a nuclear Iran on thier border. The last thing we should ever do is make overgeneralizations about what the Arabs will and will not do... Besides, the Iranians aren't Arabs, and to most Sunnis, they are barely Muslim...

30 posted on 12/12/2005 7:23:25 PM PST by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: carton253
" Besides, the Iranians aren't Arabs, and to most Sunnis, they are barely Muslim..."
Agree. Shiite are infidels and common animals to Wahabist and Salafist. And certainly I have voiced long dreary dialogs in the past as how there are great differences between the Persians and Arabs in general etc.. But these clowns always seem to band together when it is Muslim against the rest of the world, especially when the Israelis enter the loop.
At any rate, as we suspect this article may simply be producing extra ergs to be burned up in needless dialog. Not that I do not mind debating folks that make good points which has happened in both cases in these threads.
31 posted on 12/12/2005 7:32:57 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: PhilDragoo

LOL Phil, you like to finish my day with 'happy' thoughts!


32 posted on 12/12/2005 8:31:09 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: DoctorZIn

bump!


33 posted on 12/12/2005 9:46:55 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: DoctorZIn

bump!


34 posted on 12/13/2005 1:14:24 AM PST by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: DoctorZIn
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35 posted on 12/13/2005 8:10:39 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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