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Saudi Prince Gives Millions to Harvard and Georgetown (for Islamic Studies Departments)
NY Times ^ | December 13, 2005 | KAREN W. ARENSON

Posted on 12/12/2005 11:12:48 PM PST by indcons

Harvard University and Georgetown University each announced yesterday that they had received $20 million donations from Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Alsaud, a Saudi businessman and member of the Saudi royal family, to finance Islamic studies.

Harvard said it would create a universitywide program on Islamic studies, recruit new faculty members in the field, provide more support for graduate students and convert rare Islamic textual sources into digital formats to make them widely available.

"For a university with global aspirations, it is critical that Harvard have a strong program on Islam that is worldwide and interdisciplinary in scope," said Steven E. Hyman, Harvard's provost, who will coordinate adopting the new program.

Georgetown said it would use the gift - the second-largest it has ever received - to expand its Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding, which is part of its Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service. It said it would rename the center the H.R.H. Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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Beware of Saudis bearing gifts (apologies to Homer)
1 posted on 12/12/2005 11:12:49 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

Not if it is truly a "gift".

Me, I'd have told Prince Saudi bin al Sheethead to stuff it.


2 posted on 12/12/2005 11:15:37 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: indcons

Yes, be very afraid. This is the result of the recent Islamic conference. Change and overtake America by educating them about Islam.


3 posted on 12/12/2005 11:16:10 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: indcons
I am sure a lot of the money will go to chem for allah 101
4 posted on 12/12/2005 11:16:22 PM PST by vrwc0915
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To: indcons; Prime Choice

5 posted on 12/12/2005 11:16:42 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: indcons
Harvard said it would create a universitywide program on Islamic studies, recruit new faculty members in the field

Oh good. More Al Arians in our midst. Just perfect.
6 posted on 12/12/2005 11:16:46 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: clee1

There's more....this is the same scumbag whoose "gift" ws returned by Giuliani after 9/11. The prince demanded that Giuliani blame the Jews (or something along those lines).

Interestingly, this is the same character who has bought u 5% on Fox News. He bragged recently that he got the headlines changed on Fox News in favor of muslims. See "Saudi says he nixed Fox News 'Muslim riots' banner": http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1536957/posts


7 posted on 12/12/2005 11:17:58 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

Reminds me of when billionaire named Bass tried to give $20M or so to Yale for a Western Civilization course and they didn't want to!! Western Civ has got to go! and he almost had to fight to get the money back


8 posted on 12/12/2005 11:18:22 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: indcons

During the Cold war, Harvard kissed Castro's rear end.
Now during the war against islamos, Harvard is kissing Saudi's rear end.


9 posted on 12/12/2005 11:18:27 PM PST by ConservativeChinese (I'm a Chinese, no affirmative action needed, thank you.)
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To: indcons

Private donation I guess there's really nothing wrong with that. Now we just need a really loaded Christian to donate a ton of money based on his faith.....


10 posted on 12/12/2005 11:19:17 PM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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To: GeronL

If Yale has its way, Western civilization will disappear for good.


11 posted on 12/12/2005 11:19:44 PM PST by indcons
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To: Tempest

See post #7 on this thread.


12 posted on 12/12/2005 11:20:14 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

The Islamic Women's Studies department...

13 posted on 12/12/2005 11:20:48 PM PST by LongElegantLegs (Nellie wants a story-book; she thinks dolls are folly)
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To: Tempest

See post #7 on this thread.


14 posted on 12/12/2005 11:21:24 PM PST by Dr. Redundant
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To: Paleo Conservative

American liberals just don't get it!! I wonder where this misplaced sympathy for the barbarians comes from.


15 posted on 12/12/2005 11:21:33 PM PST by indcons
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To: LongElegantLegs

No, not this pic.
How about a pic of a woman stoned to death?
I'm still waiting for the feminists to express their anger.


16 posted on 12/12/2005 11:22:56 PM PST by ConservativeChinese (I'm a Chinese, no affirmative action needed, thank you.)
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To: indcons

Yep, I guess he has a seriously messed up point of view that does not honor the God of Abraham. But he does have enough money a faith to put his money where his mouth is.

I would like to see a Christian or a Christian organization do the same thing.


17 posted on 12/12/2005 11:23:20 PM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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To: indcons

Oh yeah... this dirtbag camel-humper.

I heard Buchannan on Hannity today say that "It seems that economics has replaced patriotism in America".

I am NO Buchannan fan... but I think he is right on target with that comment.


18 posted on 12/12/2005 11:24:28 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: indcons

Great, if I'm accepted into the Georgetown's Arab Studies program, maybe they'll be some money to grant me a fellowship or a scholarship....


19 posted on 12/12/2005 11:24:33 PM PST by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: ConservativeChinese

How's about this one?

20 posted on 12/12/2005 11:27:11 PM PST by LongElegantLegs (Nellie wants a story-book; she thinks dolls are folly)
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To: indcons

Christians should SCREAM for equal time, money and importance or sue for religious discrimination.


21 posted on 12/12/2005 11:27:56 PM PST by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: carton253
Your head of the department when you join the new "Islamic Studies" department at Georgetown:


22 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:00 PM PST by indcons
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To: clee1

Where's Giuliani when you need him?


23 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:08 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: indcons
And Bibles are not even allowed into the Saudi kingdom.

Can we make things any easier for the blood lusting jihadists?

24 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:50 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: indcons

25 posted on 12/12/2005 11:29:45 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: indcons

WHAT! No money for Bob Jones University ?


26 posted on 12/12/2005 11:30:28 PM PST by railsplitter (with extreme prejudice- destroy the enemy... foreign and domestic)
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To: indcons
That's exactly what they want as the head of the department... a Conservative, hawkish on the war on terror Zionist!

Georgetown is fourth on my list of preferred grad schools.

27 posted on 12/12/2005 11:32:42 PM PST by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Hmm, much better.


28 posted on 12/12/2005 11:32:50 PM PST by ConservativeChinese (I'm a Chinese, no affirmative action needed, thank you.)
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To: ncountylee

"Can we make things any easier for the blood lusting jihadists?"

Worth repeating this question again.....


29 posted on 12/12/2005 11:34:00 PM PST by indcons
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To: carton253

All the best with your applications.


30 posted on 12/12/2005 11:34:55 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons
They sure seem to think that $20 mil goes a long way. Usually, they need more than that just to pay for the exploratory committee.
31 posted on 12/12/2005 11:35:30 PM PST by Ruth A.
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To: indcons

Thanks...it's like having a full time job.


32 posted on 12/12/2005 11:38:04 PM PST by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: indcons

Georgetown's Mideast studies department is notorious for it's pro Muslim slant, for it's ex-patriot Muhammadan professors, for it's neo Marxist professors who love Islam. It's a locus of evil.

How special for a Catholic university to be partners in Jihad


33 posted on 12/12/2005 11:44:02 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: dennisw

Yeah, that's what seems to have become of the Jesuits. Georgetown's Law School has been trying to throw the rest of the school's influence out for some time, as nominally Catholic as it has been.

So what caused all of this to start to bloom? Why, yes, the beautiful and greatest virtue: diversity.

If I were a Georgetown alum, I'd have halted my donations ages ago. Same thing with Duke. These schools have completely sold out. Well, at least Georgetown still has a few vestiges left.

Gag. Just search for Professor John Esposito. He's a real pearl.


34 posted on 12/13/2005 12:03:04 AM PST by CheyennePress
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Gag. Just search for Professor John Esposito. He's a real pearl.

He's one of the worst Mid East scholars in America. I see him called on his half truths all the time. He's your classic leftist apologist-collaborator with Islam

Link

http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/78

 

35 posted on 12/13/2005 12:12:18 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: indcons

These freakazoid islamist thugs are as insidious as the rats for the past 40 years. We are in for a long and terrible fight for decades to come, I'm afraid. It won't be over in our lifetimes.

Yikes.


36 posted on 12/13/2005 12:40:10 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: clee1

"Me, I'd have told Prince Saudi bin al Sheethead to stuff it"



and on the other hand, the more you know how a machine runs, the eassier it is to cause a FUBAR


37 posted on 12/13/2005 2:46:59 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: All
ON THE NET...

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "BUYING FOX NEWS" by Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld and Alyssa A. Lappen (December 13, 2005)

WTOP.com (AP): "SAUDI PRINCE DONATES $40M TO UNIVERSITIES" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "A Saudi prince believed to be the wealthiest businessman in the Muslim world has donated $40 million for Harvard and Georgetown to expand their Islamic studies programs, the schools announced Monday. Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud, who gave $20 million to each university, is a nephew of the late King Fahd and worth upward of $20 billion, according to Forbes magazine, which ranked him fifth on its 2005 list of the world's billionaires. Harvard and Georgetown officials said they will use the gifts to add faculty and scholarships and expand their Islamic studies curricula.") (December 12, 2005)

38 posted on 12/13/2005 2:48:04 AM PST by Cindy
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To: indcons
Of late it seems to me that Harvard, Yale, Georgetown et al. have the intellectual backbone of jellyfish. The US Military is not allowed but Islam is welcome with open arms. Disgusting!
39 posted on 12/13/2005 3:36:39 AM PST by Chgogal (Democrats cut and run, Marines don't. OR Democrats are silent when millions die. Which to use?)
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To: indcons
Wonder how many Christian or Jewish studies they have in Muslim-dominated countries.
40 posted on 12/13/2005 4:32:03 AM PST by capt. norm (Beware of the "White-Flag Democrats"...we all know who they are.)
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To: indcons
On the stipulation that they use text books used in Saudi Arabia>/sarc. Maybe it's a way to recruit replacement bombers.
Never ever trust an Islamic, gifts in one hand a chainsaw in the other. Amen.
41 posted on 12/13/2005 4:43:46 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: indcons
What courses will they have?
NailBombing 101?
Advanced Rock Throwing?
Throatslitting 101?
42 posted on 12/13/2005 5:04:30 AM PST by Bon mots
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Graduation day:


43 posted on 12/13/2005 5:07:52 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: indcons

This is scary to me very scary..CAN ANYONE SAY "slow and intelligent infiltration".


44 posted on 12/13/2005 5:09:04 AM PST by NYjarcola
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To: Tempest

And do you truly think or believe that if a highly wealthy influencial Christian man or group wanted to donate this kind of money to Harvard that the Liberal scum and media would'nt be making a huge deal of it?????????? I mean these are the same institutions that dont even want our Military on their campus's but they'll allow our silent enemies even like the Prince IMO to spread their religion, sick sheeeeeet to me very scary.


45 posted on 12/13/2005 5:14:02 AM PST by NYjarcola
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To: indcons
And all this terrorist indoctrination is tax-free. What bull!
46 posted on 12/13/2005 7:39:54 AM PST by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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To: clee1

(probably this guy gave to pakistani charities as well.)

South Asia
Dec 6, 2005

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GL06Df01.html

US on the scent of terror money in Pakistan
By Syed Saleem Shahzad

KARACHI - Beyond the tragedy of more than 70,000 lives being lost in the October 8 earthquake that devastated large sections of Pakistan-administered Kashmir, the disaster alerted US intelligence to the fact that the financial conduits that feed militancy and terror remain very much intact.

At very short notice, millions of dollars poured into the coffers of the jihadi group Jamaatut Dawa (formerly Lashkar-i-Taiba), allowing it to immediately take over relief operations in Kashmir while the Pakistan government dallied.

As a direct consequence of this realization, the US Central



Intelligence Agency (CIA) once again prevailed on Islamabad to launch an offensive against al-Qaeda-linked foreign elements sheltering in the country, notably in the North and South Waziristan tribal areas on the border with Afghanistan.

One Pakistan move involves Ghazi Abdul Rasheed and Maulana Abdul Aziz of the famous Lal Masjid Islamabad. They issued a controversial religious edict during one of the previous operations in South Waziristan calling on people not to pray at the funerals of Pakistan Army personnel killed in action in the area. The two religious leaders have had their movements restricted.

On the US side, they appear to have scored a hit with the elimination of al-Qaeda number three, Hamza Rabia, in North Waziristan, apparently through missiles fired from a CIA drone. However, the body has not been found and al-Qaeda has denied that he is dead.

During the latest crackdown, the activities of the Jamaatut Dawa are also under the spotlight.

A high-level Washington-based source told Asia Times Online:
"Like prayers, zakat [compulsory charity - 2.5% of an individuals's annual reserves/savings in Sunni Islam and 5% among Shi'ites] and pilgrimage, jihad is also an integral part of the Muslim faith, that is why there is a trend that those Muslim philanthropists who build mosques, seminaries and donate money to Islamic relief operators also send money to those they view as mujahideen. That is the reason decision-makers in Washington are convinced that those who contribute money to Islamic groups in Kashmir are also involved in supporting the resistance in Iraq and Afghanistan."

The current operations in Pakistan are being supervised and controlled by US intelligence. The role of the Pakistani forces is to do the supporting "donkey work".

A case study
Dr Dawood Qasmi, a graduate of the Dow Medical College in the port city of Karachi, works at the National Institute of Child Health in the same city. The US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is in hot pursuit of him.

His father, brother and two nephews were arrested, and the women of his family were threatened with arrest if Dawood did not give himself up. However, a hue and cry raised in the media forced government agencies to release the men and lay off the women.

Dawood is a former commander of the banned Laskhar-i-Taiba in Sindh province. His role was to recruit civilians to join the Kashmiri movement. He was closely associated with the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Kashmir cell. The ISI provided him with ample funds to recruit youths, beside giving him expensive vehicles and armed guards. Laskhar-i-Taiba was one of the most active militant groups in Kashmir.

But post-September 11, 2001, events changed Dawood's life (Asia Times Online wrote a detailed account of his life Confessions of a failed jiha


47 posted on 12/13/2005 7:54:42 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: clee1

The Dept of Homosexual Theory is not far behind.


48 posted on 12/13/2005 9:10:28 AM PST by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: indcons

"New York Rejects Saudi Prince's Donation Over Criticism Row"

http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-10/13/article3.shtml


49 posted on 12/13/2005 3:33:15 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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