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L.A. Crips gang founder executed in Calif.
Orange County Register ^ | 12/13/2005 | KIM CURTIS

Posted on 12/13/2005 7:12:49 AM PST by kellynla

SAN QUENTIN, Calif. (AP) -- Convicted killer Stanley Tookie Williams, the Crips gang co-founder whose case stirred a national debate about capital punishment versus the possibility of redemption, was executed early Tuesday.

Williams, 51, died at 12:35 a.m. Officials at San Quentin State Prison seemed to have trouble injecting the lethal mixture into his muscular arm. As they struggled to find a vein, Williams looked up repeatedly and appeared frustrated, shaking his head at supporters and other witnesses.

"You doing that right?" it sounded as if he asked one of the men with a needle.

After he was declared dead, his supporters shouted in unison: "The state of California just killed an innocent man," as they walked out of the chamber

The case became the state's highest-profile execution in decades. Hollywood stars and capital punishment foes argued that Williams' sentence should be commuted to life in prison because he had made amends by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs and violence.

In the days leading up to the execution, state and federal courts refused to reopen his case. Monday, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger denied Williams' request for clemency, suggesting that his supposed change of heart was not genuine because he had not shown any real remorse for the killings committed by the Crips.

"Is Williams' redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise?" Schwarzenegger wrote. "Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings, there can be no redemption."

Williams was condemned in 1981 for gunning down convenience store clerk Albert Owens, 26, at a 7-Eleven in Whittier and killing Yen-I Yang, 76, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang, 63, and the couple's daughter Yu-Chin Yang Lin, 43, at the Los Angeles motel they owned. Williams claimed he was innocent.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: execution; frymumianext; stanleywilliams; tookie; tookieisdead; tookiewilliams
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"Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings, there can be no redemption."
1 posted on 12/13/2005 7:12:49 AM PST by kellynla
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To: kellynla

>>After he was declared dead, his supporters shouted in unison: "The state of California just killed an innocent man," as they walked out of the chamber.<<
Wrong. An innocent man was shot in the back twice by Tookie in 1979.


2 posted on 12/13/2005 7:14:48 AM PST by travlnmn41
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To: kellynla

The tookster didn't conduct his executions swiftly and perfectly as we are told his victims gurgled after they were shot so I don't see where he should be criticizing the state just because they missed a vein on the first try.


3 posted on 12/13/2005 7:15:43 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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And if anyone had any doubts about this murder's guilt and/or record;
here it is for all to read.

http://da.co.la.ca.us/pdf/swilliams.pdf


4 posted on 12/13/2005 7:17:15 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: travlnmn41

"After Williams blasted a football-sized hole in Albert Owens' back as he lay face-down on the floor of the 7-Eleven where he worked, the gang leader laughed about the "gurgling" noises the 26-year-old divorced father of two made as he died, according to trial testimony.

"And after Williams gunned down Yen-I Yang, 76, his wife, Tsai-Shai, 63, and their daughter, Yee-Chen Lin, 43, when he robbed their family-run motel, he bragged of killing "Buddha-heads," according to his pals' testimony."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/story/369269p-314207c.html


5 posted on 12/13/2005 7:17:51 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: travlnmn41

"The state of California just killed an innocent man,"
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If this is their definition of INNOCENT, I would hate to see their definition of GUILTY.


6 posted on 12/13/2005 7:19:14 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: kellynla
It's simply amazing.

This single man is responsible for 4 murders and thousands more black-on-black murders and crimes.

This single man is responsible for more Blacks being incarcerated for gang related crimes than any other.

7 posted on 12/13/2005 7:19:31 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: kellynla

I personally liked this news brief...

"News: Killer "Tookie Williams" Out of Options
12/13/2005

A former leader of the Crips gang and convicted murderer "Tookie
Williams" lost all avenues for clemency on Monday.

Though he claimed he was reformed (as did various celebs like Snoop Dogg and Jamie Foxx) Governator Schwarzenegger said he lacked sincerity and wouldn't even admit to his crimes.

Some liberals were worried about the gap in the Children's Book market that will be left behind following Williams' execution."

http://www.capitolhilljournal.com/

No more Children's books : (


8 posted on 12/13/2005 7:19:38 AM PST by WatchYourself
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To: kellynla
I'll be glad when tomorrow gets here and I don't have to hear anymore about this cold blooded murderer.
9 posted on 12/13/2005 7:21:20 AM PST by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: kellynla

Excellent data. Notice that Tookie shot out the monitor, NOT THE CAMERA! Is tha tape available?


10 posted on 12/13/2005 7:21:22 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

If either of his two criminal sons do something to face the death penalty, they can throw themselves on the mercy of the court because they're orphans.


11 posted on 12/13/2005 7:22:20 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

yep your right - they should have cut his head off and suffed the needle down the gaping hole a top his rotten body.

May he rot in Hell for all eternity.


12 posted on 12/13/2005 7:22:38 AM PST by kentj
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To: kellynla

They should have given Tookie the needle, I am sure he had planty of practice finding those veins.


13 posted on 12/13/2005 7:24:18 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: BenLurkin
he bragged of killing "Buddha-heads,"

Has anyone in the media anywhere called Tookie a racist? If he had been caucasian would they have called him anything but a racist?

14 posted on 12/13/2005 7:25:16 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Enterprise

He was married? LOL


15 posted on 12/13/2005 7:25:39 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: kellynla

Continuous Revolution In Progress, yo!


16 posted on 12/13/2005 7:25:49 AM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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To: TexasCajun
I read something yesterday here on FR about the founding of the Crips gang. It looked to me that Tookie was part of the original "gang of toughs" but hardly the originator of the idea. He's getting more credit than he deserves as a founder of the Crips.

The only good Crip is a dead Crip.

17 posted on 12/13/2005 7:26:48 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
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To: kellynla

Where's the rioting....tookie's groupies told everyone there were going to be major rioting over his death. NO RIOTING HAPPENING...


18 posted on 12/13/2005 7:26:50 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: travlnmn41
Make that two innocent families terminated by Williams back in 1979.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

19 posted on 12/13/2005 7:27:54 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: TexasCajun
"This single man is responsible for 4 murders and thousands more black-on-black murders and crimes."

Leftists love mass murderers. They can't help it, it's genetic.

20 posted on 12/13/2005 7:28:51 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: kellynla
Do you suppose Snoop Dogg and Jamie Foxx would have come out in support of a white killer on death row if they thought he was innocent?
21 posted on 12/13/2005 7:29:29 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: All

And let us not forget that this murderer and co-founder of the Crips had an excellent opportunity last night to make an invocation to all young people to stay out of gangs, stay away from drugs,stay out of trouble and get an education; and he also had an excellent opportunity to apologize for forming the Crips for all the crimes, death and destruction that the gangs have put on society around America but he FAILED MISERABLY TO DO SO!

so much for the infamous author...


22 posted on 12/13/2005 7:29:35 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

It was supposed to start at 12:01. It took 34 minutes for him to die?


23 posted on 12/13/2005 7:29:59 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: kellynla
Headline should read:
Tookie get a cript..
24 posted on 12/13/2005 7:30:00 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: WatchYourself

All this nonsense about children's books, and him steering children away from gangs was the usual leftist concocted fairy tales to try to save a thug. Screw 'em.


25 posted on 12/13/2005 7:30:38 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: EagleUSA
"If this is their definition of INNOCENT, I would hate to see their definition of GUILTY."

If he had been white, he would have been guilty.

26 posted on 12/13/2005 7:30:40 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: massgopguy

"Is tha tape available?"

I believe it is on the link I provided from the L.A. DA.


27 posted on 12/13/2005 7:30:57 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: EagleUSA

It is the satanic definition of "innocent".


28 posted on 12/13/2005 7:32:29 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Enterprise
All this nonsense about children's books, and him steering children away from gangs was the usual leftist concocted fairy tales to try to save a thug. Screw 'em.

Funny how before John Wayne Gacy was executed, you didn't hear the lefties saying how he used to entertain sick children in hospitals as a clown.

29 posted on 12/13/2005 7:32:44 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: kentj

Probably asking for ice water right about now.


30 posted on 12/13/2005 7:33:15 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: sionnsar

"It took 34 minutes for him to die?"

I believe he was pronounced dead after about twenty minutes.
but don't hold me to that...


31 posted on 12/13/2005 7:33:51 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: WatchYourself
"News: Killer "Tookie Williams" Out of Options

Heaven forbid, the headline ever read: "Long Suffering Victim's Families may finally get Retribution". Of course not. Never mind Albert Owens father died in 1995 while Tookie wrote childrens books and got nominated for the Nobel Prize. Never mind the Asian family had no survivors. Nevermind Albert Owen, who was working a second job, had a daughter who grew up with out a father because of Mr. "Out of Options". Just wondering, did anyone else feel like throwing up when you seen how the Tookie Supports held up the black power salute and chanted "An innocent man has been murdered"?
32 posted on 12/13/2005 7:34:08 AM PST by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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To: dfwgator
Rosalyn Carter appeared once with the creep. I don't know what some people see in sociopaths. Its like when it comes to evil, some people are in complete denial that it exists.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

33 posted on 12/13/2005 7:34:45 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kellynla

As noted on another thread, Williams was not "co-founder" of the Crips. I guess Tookie's fan club felt a need to pump up his murderous resume to make his "redemption" seem more impressive.

More hype designed to make this two-bit thug seem to be more than what he is, er, I mean was.


34 posted on 12/13/2005 7:35:00 AM PST by Callahan
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When the left embrace Tookie as a Hero I do not feel bad at all calling them Sicko,s . The Rev Jesse Jerkson was only there because of the many TV Camera,s . When he killed a Chinese famly . Tookie bragged about killing Budda Heads . When he killed a Convience store clerk he laughed about the Gurgleing sound the man was making as he drowned in his own blood . I hope Tookie Rots in the Fires of Hell .


35 posted on 12/13/2005 7:36:07 AM PST by Bird Man BM-1 (An Eye for an Eye)
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To: kellynla
After he was declared dead, his supporters shouted in unison: "The state of California just killed an innocent man," as they walked out of the chamber

---snip--- that Williams' sentence should be commuted to life in prison because he had made amends by writing children's books about the dangers of gangs and violence.

Innocent? Or made amends? They don't seem to see the discrepancy. But we knew that. I was thinking that the victims have some justice finally, some peace, but his gang is still out there, with anger renewed over his death. Innocent? Puh-lease... It seems even in death, even in attempts to bring justice, he manages to tweak the situation to serve his ends.

36 posted on 12/13/2005 7:36:56 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Pay backs are a bitch...maybe it was intentional,hope so.....


37 posted on 12/13/2005 7:38:12 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Yep. He shot one of his victims in the lower back and let the poor man suffer as he died.

Tookie got far better treatment than did his victims.

Hell, Tookie got to appeal his sentence.


38 posted on 12/13/2005 7:40:28 AM PST by PeterFinn (Anita Bryant was right!)
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To: goldstategop
Its like when it comes to evil, some people are in complete denial that it exists.

I used to work with a guy like that. Total nutjob, and he hated Christians, too.

39 posted on 12/13/2005 7:40:29 AM PST by shekkian
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To: ElkGroveDan
"Has anyone in the media anywhere called Tookie a racist?"

Oh Dan, you can't be serious! Once upon a time, little Tookie went to a 7-11 to get some milk for a homeless woman and her baby. He wanted to get an evil gun off the streets so he decided to trade it for some milk. The gun accidentally went off, and the clerk was killed. But it wasn't Tookie's fault. No siree. No way, no how.

And later, he went to a motel to try to find a room for some homeless people. He didn't have any money. But he tried to get an evil gun off the streets and he decided to trade it for a room. But the gun accidentally went off, and three asians were killed. Tookie said, "Oh my, a Buddhist was shot in the head", yeah, that's what he said, that's the ticket. But it wasn't his fault, No siree, No way, no how.

Anyway, no one lived happily ever after.

40 posted on 12/13/2005 7:41:02 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: t1b8zs

Yeah they could have assigned the rookie to start the IVs - (I'm told they need 2 - a primary and a backup).

Hey Fred, you're going for your EMS test next week - you want to give this a shot?


41 posted on 12/13/2005 7:42:27 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: Callahan

"As noted on another thread, Williams was not "co-founder" of the Crips."

Records from the L.A. County D.A.'s office say different. And I think I would place more credibility on their office than some anonymous source on FR. LOL
I have referenced the D.A. link.
http://da.co.la.ca.us/pdf/swilliams.pdf


42 posted on 12/13/2005 7:42:41 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: jackieaxe

>>> I <<< was nominated for a Nobel Prize...as a joke.

It's a big "So what?" to me. The left-wing just uses the Nobel as their tool anymore so it is just as much as joke as my nomination.


43 posted on 12/13/2005 7:42:45 AM PST by PeterFinn (Anita Bryant was right!)
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To: kellynla

Tookie never apologized or atoned for what he had done.

Instead he spent 20 plus years trying to game the system.

Here is the history of a mass murderer who actually repented of his crimes, and chose to atone for them.

His name was Steven Renfro.

Steven's parents separated shortly after he was born and his father lost touch with both the mother and son for about 35 years. Steven's grandmother located Steven and reconciled him with with his father.

Steven was raised by his aunt, Rose Rutledge, near Marshall, Texas. He went to high school with Rick Berry, a Harrison County district attorney who later prosecuted Steven.

On August 25, 1996, after taking what he later told authorities were 70 doses of the tranquilizer Valium along with liquor, Steven put on camouflage clothing, blackened his face and armed himself with four guns including a military assault rifle and some 500 rounds of ammunition.

He shot and killed his live-in girlfriend, Rhena Fultner, 36, then Aunt Rose Rutledge, 63, who lived with them. Then he went to a nearby trailer home of an acquaintance, George Counts, 40, against whom he had a grudge, and fatally shot him, firing more than 150 rounds into Counts' mobile home.

When police arrived, he opened fire again, wounding Marshall police officer Dominic Pondant in the shoulder and turning his patrol car "into Swiss cheese," as authorities described it. Police were out gunned by Steven's .45 and .50 caliber handguns and an AR-15 rifle, but one of his weapons malfunctioned and officer Pondant was able to hit Steven.

He was convicted the following April and ended his trail by telling jurors he should be put to death. They agreed.

He asked that no appeals be pursued. At his execution, he apologized to the family members of the victims and said a prayer.

He was executed on February 9, 1998, after spending the second shortest time on Texas' death row.

The media and Hollywood celebrities were conspicuous by their absence.


44 posted on 12/13/2005 7:44:02 AM PST by LOC1
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To: massgopguy

WARNING: Following link contains 3 crime scene photos of the bodies. If you cant handle reality then dont click it.

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/three_victims_of_murderer_stanley_tookie_williams_Dec_13_2005.html


45 posted on 12/13/2005 7:44:56 AM PST by boulderite20
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To: Joe 6-pack
If he had been white, he would have been guilty.

If Timothy McVeigh had been black he would have been innocent.

46 posted on 12/13/2005 7:45:07 AM PST by shekkian
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To: PeterFinn
>>> I <<< was nominated for a Nobel Prize...as a joke. It's a big "So what?" to me. The left-wing just uses the Nobel as their tool anymore so it is just as much as joke as my nomination.

If I were Albert Owens dad, and my son's killer was getting nominated for a Nobel Prize, it would not be a joke to me. The 24 years of waiting by the Owens family while Tookie wrote children's books and had a made-for-TV movie made about him called "redemption", is more than they should have had to endure. Thanks for the reply.
47 posted on 12/13/2005 7:48:14 AM PST by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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To: dfwgator
"you didn't hear the lefties saying how he used to entertain sick children in hospitals as a clown."

There exists somewhere a photo of Gacy and Roslyn Carter. He was a Democrat supporter and it was one of those campaign stop photos. My guess is that he embarrassed one of their goddesses and they were only too happy to see him pass from the scene.

48 posted on 12/13/2005 7:52:32 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: kellynla
Good riddance to human garbage.
49 posted on 12/13/2005 7:54:46 AM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: kellynla

Anyone see Bianca Jagger yesterday? She was reciting the usual lefty talking points re Stanley Tookie Williams, then rebutted some journalist (sorry, name escapes me) who pointed out that Stanley wanted it both ways at trial: he tried a "mental disability" defense, but that didn't 'wash'. Gov. Reagan saved a man awaiting execution who was mentally disturbed.
Bianca responded that wasn't true, that Tookie didn't try the crazy defense--keep in mind that the left was painting this murderer as a principled, courageous man who refused to 'cop out' by admitting guilt for something he didn't do--and then Miss Nicaragua had to sit there like a bump on a log when the journalist asked her if she had bothered to read the trial transcript.
As usual, Bianca,like Mike Farrell, long on liberal passion but short on facts.

And Farrell and others calling the Terminator a "coward" for refusing to pardon Stan. Just more liberal ad hominem.


50 posted on 12/13/2005 7:55:23 AM PST by tumblindice
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