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Nonsense from Biden about Constitution-Writing: MSM Misses the Story, Again
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 14 December, 2005 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 12/13/2005 10:46:42 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

On Special Report with Brit Hume on Fox News, 13 December, 2005, Senator Joe Biden (D, Delaware) said the following in reply to President Bush’s third policy speech on Iraq in Philadelphia yesterday:

“Failure to get a consensus constitution spells doom for our policy in Iraq. So what is the plan, Mr. President? That is still lacking.”

After saying that means participation by the UN, NATO, and Iraq’s neighbors, Biden added:

“If this time next year nothing has changed concerning in terms of our success rate, we will be out of Iraq. The American people will not sustain this.”

The transcript of this is not up yet, but these quotes are TiVo’ed and accurate.

The full answer to these historically foolish statements by Senator Biden were given by President Bush in the first ten minutes of his speech in Philadelphia, on Monday. Bush began by recounting the history of America writing its own Constitution. He took time to note that our first attempt to draft an acceptable constitution was an abject failure. Under the Articles of Confederation, our government failed financially, and there were armed rebellions in the streets.

As the President carefully pointed out, it took us “eight years to write our Constitution.” The Battle of Yorktown effectively ended the American Revolution in 1781. It was not until 1789 that our Constitution was both written and ratified, to replace the Articles of Confederation, which had failed.

So the first historical nonsense stated by Senator Biden was that the American people will not “sustain” more than a one-year wait to obtain workable constitution.

But the worse error in Senator Biden’s remarks, as compared to America’s own constitutional history, was his claim that to be successful, Iraq had to write a “consensus constitution,” acceptable to its neighbors. Is the Senator totally ignorant of recent history? Money, fighters and weapons are leaking into Iraq across its borders with Iran and Syria. Just today, Americans captured a tanker truck that came in from Iran which concealed thousands of forged ballots for the current Iraq election.

What kind of constitution would Iraq have, if its neighbors who want it to fail, had any kind of approval rights over it? None.

The same answer comes from American history. What kind of Constitution would we have written and ratified if it had to be by “consensus” with our neighbors? Our neighbors were then Britain, which still controlled Canada, and France, which still controlled the Louisiana Territory. We, too, would have never achieved our Constitution, under conditions like those that Senator Biden said are essential.

But Americans in reading or watching the news would be totally unaware of the American history which demonstrates that Senator Biden’s remarks are foolish, from the MSM coverage of Bush’s speech. Only 6 of the 128 hits from “Articles of Confederation” on Google News are news stories. Most of the rest are the full text of the Bush speech. Most Americans don’t read the whole text of speeches, nor watch them live in full on TV.

The simple fact is that the MSM, because they are lazy, foolish or biased, buried the lede. The important comparison between American and Iraqi constitution writing, including initial and major failures, was edited out of almost all news stories about that speech. So, the comparison which demonstrated in advance that Senator Biden’s remarks are downright foolish, wasn’t presented.

Contrary to the way that history is (mis)taught in American schools today, history did not begin yesterday. The history of America’s constitution writing is directly relevant to the current history of Iraq’s similar efforts today. And these facts were presented by the President, but largely ignored by the MSM.

John_Armor@aya.yale.edu


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
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To: Congressman Billybob

Obviously Senator Chia pet's hair plugs were place so deep that they disrupted the connection between his two brain cells.


21 posted on 12/14/2005 12:30:14 AM PST by Brofholdonow
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To: ncountylee

"Biden is the only real threat to Boxer for the dimmest bulb title."

I will call with Cynthia McKinney and Sheila Jackson-Lee, and raise you 2 with Barbara Lee and Maxine Waters.

I think you should fold :-)


22 posted on 12/14/2005 12:42:38 AM PST by American in Singapore (Who needs Comedy Central when we have liberals?)
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To: American in Singapore

Senate vrs House...but that's a whole lot of dumb.


23 posted on 12/14/2005 1:48:16 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"MSM buries Biden spineless, stamina-less, stupidities"
is more like it.


24 posted on 12/14/2005 2:04:47 AM PST by Baby Driver
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To: ncountylee
Biden is the only real threat to Boxer for the dimmest bulb title.

So many names, so little time.

25 posted on 12/14/2005 2:46:57 AM PST by patj
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To: Congressman Billybob
I'm watching the replay from his speech yesterday. It's on c-span now.....Biden is using his version of the baseball analogy that we are in the eighth inning in Iraq & he alleges GWB has committed four errors.....

Funny, base ball is known to be the President's favorite game and Judge Roberts used it in simple & clear way during his hearings.

So in runs Joe with his own baseball metaphor(look at me I'm presidential too-I know baseball Joe / look at me-I'm as smart at choosing baseball quips as the smartest man in our generation to be a SC Justice) acting like he is the all-knowing announcer at the game.

Sorry Joe, no matter how much you are rooting for the other team:
"The game's not over til it's over"
26 posted on 12/14/2005 4:07:58 AM PST by chgomac
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To: Congressman Billybob; Constitution Day; TaxRelief; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ...

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail Constitution Day OR TaxRelief OR Alia if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
27 posted on 12/14/2005 4:16:49 AM PST by Alia
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To: Congressman Billybob
Picasso painted Biden and the rest of the coalition of the quivering when he portrayed those people with both eyes on one side of their head, mouths agape, fingers pressed to temples.

Eventually, evolution will catch up with these flounders and labels like left/right will become obsolete as they will be readily identified.

28 posted on 12/14/2005 4:37:51 AM PST by Simo Hayha (An education is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend oneself from harm.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Pieces like this are exactly why we are slowly but surely winning in the war against the old media. Biden-Biden is just like all evil donkeys. They just can't allow themselves to accept that the lemmings can find the truth for themselves. If they did accept this reality they would have no reason to get out of bed in the morning. Without the ability to lie and be backed up in their lies by the old media they have no power over us. The truth shall always make us free!
Thanks for this fine piece of work, Congressman Billybob.
29 posted on 12/14/2005 4:44:14 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Our neighbors were then Britain, which still controlled Canada, and France, which still controlled the Louisiana Territory.

If memory serves, I think the Spanish controlled the Louisana territory at the time, but your point is well taken -- Biden is indeed an idiot.

30 posted on 12/14/2005 4:50:56 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
But Americans in reading or watching the news would be totally unaware of the American history which demonstrates that Senator Biden’s remarks are foolish, from the MSM coverage of Bush’s speech.

And then many are foolish enough to try to make a comparison between the founding of this nation of states to Iraq's third 'founding' this century when in fact it is impossible.

31 posted on 12/14/2005 6:07:36 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Dustbunny
Biden is 4 cents short of a dime, his elevator stops short of his top floor, he is a useless piece of lying crap.

yea...and other disparaging antidotes detailing Bidens uselessness. :)

32 posted on 12/14/2005 6:22:39 AM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: MikeA

John Murtha actually said that the 29% of Iraqis that think their country is going in the wrong direction was way too high, and was a recipe for disaster, suggesting that if that many americans had thought that during our revolution that we never would have been a country, or something like that.

I can't find the quote now, I heard him on the radio while I was driving.


33 posted on 12/14/2005 8:46:08 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: American in Singapore

And I don't mean to be racist, but why is it that all the really dumb house members are black?

I think it is because gerrymandering guarantees these seats to black people, and the appeal to that constituency doesn't seem to favor reasoned thinking. But I can't figure out why that would be the case.

I actually think that there are a lot of house members, and several other senators, who are as dumb as these people, they just know to keep their mouths shut.


34 posted on 12/14/2005 8:48:40 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: billbears
Why do you persist in contending that history is irrelevant? You are aware, I hope, that the Framers looked back as much as 2,000 years into the history of Roman and Greek city states, in deciding on the proper forms of American government that they were creating.

Were they wrong to do that? Or, are you wrong to ignore George Santayana's caution, "Those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it"?

If you want more recent history that even you could not decry as irrelevant, look at the "nation-building" which General MacArthur in Japan and General Eisenhower in Germany, after WW II. Germany is especially relevant, in light of the assassinations and sabotage that the werewolves carried out for years after being created by the Nazis to do exactly that, after the end of the war in Europe.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "My Friend, Gene McCarthy, 1916-2005"

35 posted on 12/14/2005 9:30:17 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I hadn't heard that particular Murtha stupidity. During the American Revolution, about one-third of Americans were Loyalists, or Tories. (Many of them fled to the coast of Canada in Halifax.) By Murtha's ignorant analogy, we should have abandoned the American Revolution.

What a putz. But I also condemn the American press for their ignorance of history, and their failure to use facts side by side with Murtha's ignorant comments, so the readers can see how foolish his comments are. I don't expect them to CALL him "foolish." I DO expect them to publish the facts from which the readers can logically conclude that he IS foolish.

John / Billybob
36 posted on 12/14/2005 9:39:46 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Still can't find it. BTW, I hear that the story about the forged ballots was false.


37 posted on 12/14/2005 9:41:15 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Congressman Billybob

An excellent post. I'm emailing it around the country right now.


38 posted on 12/14/2005 9:43:37 AM PST by Howlin
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Look at how crummy the schools are in districts like Sheila Jackson ("men on Mars") Lee. Look at how many students drop out of even those poor schools, though the "graduation" requirement is that you can sign your own name and haven't stabbed a teacher, recently.

As H.L. Mencken observed, "Americans get the government they deserve. Good and hard."

John / Billybob
39 posted on 12/14/2005 9:45:05 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

John Murtha actually said that the 29% of Iraqis that think their country is going in the wrong direction was way too high, and was a recipe for disaster, suggesting that if that many americans had thought that during our revolution that we never would have been a country, or something like that.

How does that fat doughboy Murtha know that many Americans DID NOT think that during the revolution and its aftermath?? Things were incredibly rough during those times. The fat slob might try picking up a book on some history of the American revolution. 1776 by David McCollough would be a good start.

And far more Americans than 29% now think things are headed in the wrong direction, though god knows why. Our economy is as sound as it's ever been, we have more money in our pockets and more comforts in our home than ever before. But whiney, spoiled Americans just want everything perfect or it's not good enough. Wahhhh, get over it. You've never had it so good.


40 posted on 12/14/2005 10:06:14 AM PST by MikeA
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