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New York Wants Giuliani in White House
Angus Reid ^ | 12/14/05

Posted on 12/14/2005 7:00:30 AM PST by areafiftyone

(Angus Reid Global Scan) – Many adults in the Empire State want a former New York City mayor to run for president in 2008, according to a poll by Strategic Vision. 62 per cent of respondents say they would like Rudy Giuliani to launch a White House bid.

Giuliani—a Republican—garnered national and international attention in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The former mayor currently heads Giuliani Partners, LLC—a consulting firm.

Last week, Newsday reproduced the comments of John Dennehy—a strategist during the 2000 presidential run by Republican Arizona senator John McCain—on Giuliani’s possible presidential bid. Dennehy declared, "In my humble opinion, Rudy wouldn’t get out of the gate."

Support is lower for New York senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at 33 per cent. Rodham Clinton—a Democrat and former first lady—was elected to the United States Senate in 2000, defeating Republican Rick Lazio by 12 per cent. She ruled out a presidential bid in 2004.

A prospective candidacy by current Republican governor George Pataki garners the backing of 31 per cent of respondents. In July, Pataki announced he would not seek a new term as governor. In August, an advertisement discussing his possible White House bid began airing in Iowa.

No Republican has carried New York in a U.S. presidential election since Ronald Reagan in 1984.

Polling Data

Do you want former Rudy Giuliani to run for president in 2008?

Yes

62%

No

18%

Undecided

20%

Do you want George Pataki to run for president in 2008?

Yes

33%

No

49%

Undecided

18%

Do you want Hillary Rodham Clinton to run for president in 2008?

Yes

31%

No

57%

Undecided

12%

Source: Strategic Vision
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,200 registered New York voters, conducted from Dec. 2 to Dec. 4, 2005. Margin of error is 3 per cent.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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Munching Not saying anything I'm just gonna sit here - eat my popcorn and watch the fur fly! Walking 2
1 posted on 12/14/2005 7:00:30 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

I sure don't want him in the Oval Office.


2 posted on 12/14/2005 7:03:00 AM PST by old republic
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To: areafiftyone

Yeah. So, Rudy carries South Carolina, Texas and Mississippi, too?


3 posted on 12/14/2005 7:03:03 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: areafiftyone

I don't want him. Pro choice+ Pro Gun Control=Rhino. He is very good in a crisis as we all know, but politically he is closer to Teddy Kennedy than he is to GWB and GWB is already too liberal for my tastes.


4 posted on 12/14/2005 7:04:15 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: areafiftyone

But whatever they say to a pollster, when it came down to Rudy vs. Hillary for the Presidency in 2008, I'm betting New Yorkers would vote for the default Democrat over the 9/11 folk hero.


5 posted on 12/14/2005 7:04:30 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When government does too much, nobody else does much of anything." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: rightinthemiddle

If he get the nonimation, Constitution Party here I come.


6 posted on 12/14/2005 7:04:41 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: areafiftyone

Take your pick a liberal New York Senator or a Liberal New York Governor or a liberal New York City Mayor?..............Like do you want to die by Firing Squad, Electric Chair or Lethal Injection?..........


7 posted on 12/14/2005 7:04:53 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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To: areafiftyone

George Allen...period.


8 posted on 12/14/2005 7:04:58 AM PST by MarkT
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To: rightinthemiddle

Don't know about that, but he will carry Georgia - They polled Georgia last week and he is leading. Things will change by 2007. The polls now will change dramatically I'm sure by then.


9 posted on 12/14/2005 7:05:14 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Yeah. So, Rudy carries South Carolina, Texas and Mississippi, too?

If he wins the primary as the P or is selected as the VP candidate, then yes, he'll carry all those states.

10 posted on 12/14/2005 7:05:46 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Not really - I'm a NYer and I speak to alot of Dems here In NYC and they do NOT want Hillary to run for president. They will definitely vote for Rudy over Hillary if it comes to that but I don't think it will - I think someone else will be the nominee. Its too early yet.


11 posted on 12/14/2005 7:06:27 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: TXBSAFH
If he get the nonimation, Constitution Party here I come.

But you've previously posted numerous times that you won't vote for Tom DeLay or any Republican.

12 posted on 12/14/2005 7:07:09 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: TXBSAFH

Amen to that.
If Rudi or any other RINO gets the Republican nomination Constitution Party all the way. I'd rather vote for good than a lesser evil.


13 posted on 12/14/2005 7:07:43 AM PST by old republic
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To: areafiftyone
Do you want Hillary Rodham Clinton to run for president in 2008?
Yes 31%
No 57%
Undecided 12%

Only 31% of New Yorkers want Hillary to run? I doubt the results of this entire survey.

14 posted on 12/14/2005 7:07:52 AM PST by KarlInOhio (In memory of Alvin Owen, Thsai-Shai Yang, Yen-I Yang and Yee Chen Lin:the victims of Tookie Williams)
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To: SmoothTalker
He is very good in a crisis as we all know...

Well, we've got a lot of crises coming up, and we can't afford a President of either party who isn't good in a crisis. Otherwise, there won't be an America left by 2016 in which to have the liberal-conservative social policy debate.

Liberal as Rudy may be, the other potential Republican candidates aren't exactly filling me with confidence in their leadership abilities.

15 posted on 12/14/2005 7:07:57 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When government does too much, nobody else does much of anything." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: old republic

Welcome to FR. What was your previous freepname?


16 posted on 12/14/2005 7:08:53 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: rightinthemiddle

Actually, in a race against almost any Democrat, Giuliani would likely carry those states.

Now the voters in these states may not be crazy about Giuliani's policies but I cannot fathom them voting for Hillary Clinton or Russ Feingold.

I'd vote for Giuliani. Very willingly.


17 posted on 12/14/2005 7:09:09 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: KarlInOhio

Its true. Believe me - Most Dems I talk to here in NYC don't want Hillary to run for president. They don't care about her being a Senator but President? NEVER!


18 posted on 12/14/2005 7:09:32 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: MarkT

Amazing, isn't it...that a lot of folks opine, regarding George Allen, that a senator has never attained the Oval office, yet many of these same people have no qualms whatsoever with a former mayor heading the ticket.


19 posted on 12/14/2005 7:09:56 AM PST by jla
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To: areafiftyone
Rudy is a gun grabbing, for the murder of unborn babies and left wing.
If he is forced down the throat of the Republican Party.
I will vote CP.

He screamed worse than Dean about Florida allowing people to buy guns.

One huge problem in politics is the favorite son types instead of the best man for the job.
20 posted on 12/14/2005 7:10:32 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Giving power and money to Congress is like giving liquor and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rour)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I wouldn't count Texas to quick. We can see a snake oil salesman from pretty far.

Texans for Pence.


21 posted on 12/14/2005 7:10:53 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: areafiftyone

He can't be trusted...after his recommendation of Fitz to W...I give him a big ole' thumbs down....


22 posted on 12/14/2005 7:12:08 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: areafiftyone

Yeah... Rudy's got the gay, pro-choice southern vote locked-up.


23 posted on 12/14/2005 7:12:12 AM PST by johnny7 (“Check out the big brain on Brett!”)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
One huge problem in politics is the favorite son types instead of the best man for the job.

Like the folks wanting Jeb in '08...

24 posted on 12/14/2005 7:12:37 AM PST by dakine
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I was thinking about primaries. Mississippi may have a caucus...


25 posted on 12/14/2005 7:13:18 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: Red Badger
Take your pick a liberal New York Senator or a Liberal New York Governor or a liberal New York City Mayor?..............Like do you want to die by Firing Squad, Electric Chair or Lethal Injection?..........

LOL! Good one!

26 posted on 12/14/2005 7:14:54 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: One Proud Dad

Nobody but kooks and rabid conservo-utopians consider Rudy Giuliani a 'snake-oil salesman'. Many may prefer other candidates and not agree with all his political positions, but few accuse him of dishonesty and Clinton-esque qualities.


27 posted on 12/14/2005 7:15:32 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: areafiftyone

I'd like to see Rudy run against Clintoon for her senate seat(but we know he won't run...making too much money in the private sector)

I like Cheney/Rice in 2008( only if Rice won't come back to CA to run against DiFi for her senate seat next year)


28 posted on 12/14/2005 7:15:47 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: MplsSteve

I like Rudy. For the WOT, he'd be great.

But, the r-i-n-o keys on Freeper keyboards would be worn out soon.


29 posted on 12/14/2005 7:15:51 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Yes, the primaries will be interesting and aren't a certainty either way. But I'm willing to bet that Giuliani will fare better than some here think, and will either win the nomination or be the VP selection.


30 posted on 12/14/2005 7:17:36 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: areafiftyone

Well, one could do worse than getting him. Depends on the other choices.


31 posted on 12/14/2005 7:17:56 AM PST by GSlob
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To: MarkT
George Allen...period.

I'm all for a ticket of Dick Cheney & Condi Rice.

However, I like Sen. Allen, especially considering he had a term as governor.

If it came down to a choice between Rudy and Hillary, I'd vote for Rudy in a heartbeat. Having said that, 2008 is not on my radar screen. 2006 will be an important mid-term election.

RINOs are trying to wield their clout now, and it's up to President Bush to lead. If the RINOs are not slapped down, and soon, 2006 will be a disaster.

The RINOs better start remembering who actually put them in their exalted positions. If not, they'll be in the cheap offices in the Capitol, and calling Nancy Pelosi "Ms. Speaker".

32 posted on 12/14/2005 7:17:57 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 2500 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: areafiftyone

I don't want a New Yorker for president at all. They are all way out in left field and don't have a clue about the rest of the United States.


33 posted on 12/14/2005 7:18:55 AM PST by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: kellynla
I like Cheney/Rice in 2008

Thats a dream ticket! I would love to vote for that ticket! Too bad Cheney is not running and neither is Rice.

34 posted on 12/14/2005 7:19:10 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone

"New York Wants Giuliani in White House"

And we all want to win the lottery.

Hey RINO's, ABROM, anybody but Rudy or Mccainiac.


35 posted on 12/14/2005 7:23:39 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

By snake oil I mean trying to present himself as a conservative ( or the media doing it ). If you check Texas County voting records the most conservative candidate usually wins.

Texas ( except for Austin ) is pro gun and pro life, Rudy is not.


36 posted on 12/14/2005 7:23:52 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: areafiftyone

"Too bad Cheney is not running and neither is Rice."

well we all know that two years is a lifetime in politics;
sooooo we'll just have to wait and see;
but I don't see anyone better qualified than Cheney out there to run for POTUS in 2008???
JMO


37 posted on 12/14/2005 7:23:58 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

You are right its still too early yet. It would be nice if Cheney decided to run. He would smack down any Dem in a debate!


38 posted on 12/14/2005 7:25:39 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone
Shortly after 9/11 I thought that most mayors would react well in a crises of such magnitude. I didn't give Giuliani as much credit as most. However, the way Nagin handled Katrina changed that for me. I look back now and see Rudy has powerful leadership potential.

He is a RINO, but I would take him over Hitlery.

39 posted on 12/14/2005 7:26:52 AM PST by manwiththehands ("Have a RamaHanuKwanzMas" - Glenn Beck (And Merry Christmas!) (... and "Happy Holidays!"))
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To: areafiftyone

Too bad Rudy could never get past the die-hard, one-issue "conservatives" (pro-life peanut gallery)within the party to actually get the nomination. It's a pity that a good man (and candidate) can't advance because of his views on this issue.

Before I get flamed, I too am opposed to abortion (because of personal experience with it, not because of religious or political or ideological reasons), but I can look past the issue if it means a qualified individual might have a chance to run the country.

Fire away, if you wish...



40 posted on 12/14/2005 7:27:52 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Sh*t since 632 AD...)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Rudy can kiss my a$$.. he aint getten my vote... NY is in full anti gun mode todasy.. we can have an anti gunner like him in the white house-- or in any political office for that matter


41 posted on 12/14/2005 7:29:40 AM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: KarlInOhio

I would like to know how many NYers vote strait party ticket, yank the Democrat handle and walk out. That in itself will net her a huge base right there.


42 posted on 12/14/2005 7:33:03 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Wombat101

LOL Don't worry - they usually flame me for posting this kind of news article. LOL


43 posted on 12/14/2005 7:36:44 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: SR 50

As a native New Yorker, I take offense at that remark. REAL New Yorkers (not the transplants who live in Manhattan and consider it the center of the universe, and call themselves New Yorkers based solely upon their zip code)are some of the most practical people on earth.

I've lived in several diferent regions in this country (most recently the south) and I've always encountered the same kind of ignorant prejudice that places all New Yorkers in the same categories: as overly-liberal idiots, involved in organized crime, greedy slobs and as pretentious faux-sophisticates forever looking down our noses at everyone else on the planet.

Perhaps i'm being overly sensitive, but it chaps my behind everytime I hear this kind of thing. You want to see people in left field? Take a good look at Boston, which is 10 times worse and can't seem to break the addiction to Kennedys.


44 posted on 12/14/2005 7:37:08 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Sh*t since 632 AD...)
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To: areafiftyone

"Many adults in the Empire State want a former New York City mayor to run for president in 2008"

AS we care.

New York is a bastion of left-wing liberal Democrats. An endorsement from THEM should be a condemnation in the eyes of most Republicans.

Remember:

Giuliani: pro-gay, pro-illegal aliens, anti-gun and historically anti-Republican = No Chance in Hell of getting a Republican nomination.


45 posted on 12/14/2005 7:37:38 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: areafiftyone
Republicans will not win the White House in 2008 without Guliani, Condi or McCain.. and McCain is a stretch.

there is just not any Republicans popular enough to take the election from Hillary.

Guliani will carry FL easily, NY easily, and possibly California. That is a large amount of electorals just right there. He also has a huge chance of taking other liberal northeast states.
46 posted on 12/14/2005 7:38:40 AM PST by Element187
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To: Mr. Jeeves
He is very good in a crisis as we all know...

Being an anti-gun RINO puke, Rudy MIGHT be good in a crisis, but I think HIS idea of how to handle a crisis is not conducive to a FREE society with a Constitution like we have, particularly where our Second Amendment is concerned.

IMO, he'd probably try and pull a "Chief Compass" (New Orleans) gun confiscation scheme on all law-abiding citizens in response to a big crisis, and THAT, is only ONE (of MANY) reason why he should NEVER be allowed to be President.

47 posted on 12/14/2005 7:41:24 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: One Proud Dad

Rudi (if he wins the nomination or as the VP candidate) will be more conservative than any Democrat candidate.


48 posted on 12/14/2005 7:44:42 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: rightinthemiddle

He'd carry California easier than Hillary.


49 posted on 12/14/2005 7:47:29 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Diddle E. Squat

That is not saying much and is not that comforting.


50 posted on 12/14/2005 7:47:59 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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