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Posted on 12/15/2005 9:44:25 AM PST by Sub-Driver
Report: Satellite Used After Ok. Bombing
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In the days after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, the U.S. government used a spy satellite to gather intelligence on a white separatist compound in Oklahoma, according to a published report.
The McCurtain Daily Gazette reported Wednesday that it had obtained a Secret Service log indicating that on May 2, 1995 two weeks after the April 19 bombing the FBI was trying to locate suspects for questioning. They were thought to be in Elohim City, a compound near the town of Muldrow.
"Satellite assets have been tasked to provide intelligence concerning the compound," the document says.
Shown a copy, Secret Service spokesman Jonathan Cherry told The Associated Press he could not confirm it was a Secret Service document and declined further comment.
There was no indication in the document of what information the satellite might have gathered, or what the spacecraft was capable of doing.
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Remote sensing technology along with mass data storage will someday (if it isn't now) be able to allow intelligence agencies track suspects/criminals/terrorists movements, either real-time, or after the fact.
...And liberals complain about Patriot Act powers under Bush.
Wow, new news, only 10 years old.
Um... unless those assest belonged to the FBI someone will be in trouble .
Honest. There isn't a shred of evidence to indicate that Billy Boy and the FBI knew Oklahoma City was coming down.
they never claimed they weren't investigating the links, just that they couldn't substantiate them.
If Jayna Davis is correct, and I tend to think she is, then the whole Elohim City thing is quite probably disinformation.
I'm sure a lot more heinous crimes could be solved using such technology, but at what expense to our privacy?
One gets the impression that they were far too busy forging FBI eye witness testimony to care.
"Wow, new news, only 10 years old."
The racist compound leaks follow a pattern generally. Usually they come after someone raises noise about Nichols trips to the Philippines. A counter-leak strategy.
Since Nichols had no connection to the compound its in his lawyers interest to point the finger there. Talking about the Philippines can only implicate him.
It ought to be intersting in the future as more slowly comes out. Of course we may all be dead by then. Maybe my grandkids will read about it.
It's almost a pity that Mike Rivero was banned....
Don't forget about tracking of cell phones as well as vehicles with On-Star, tollway transponders, and similar devices.
Big Brother is watching you.
I didn't think the FBI had any satellites. Since the NRO, NSA and CIA are not supposed to spy on Americans within our borders this information is a little, shall we say, discomforting.
And this is a problem why? If it catches the bad guys, I'm for it.
I agree with your view of Jayna Davis. She certainly has accurate information.
"...And liberals complain about Patriot Act powers under Bush."
I think the point is more that we, the people, are woefully ignorant about abuse of power in this country.
One wonders if satellite surveillance of US citizens is now routine? I remember hearing years ago that such surveillance would be strictly illegal, and that it would never happen. Much like using the PA powers for non-terrorist related activities...
Does this mean that Ambrose Evans Pritchard was right after all?
Anyone else other than Clinton and this would be getting more coverage.
There was a guy, Strassmier (sp) I think. And he is a possible link to this being a bigger cover-up than the media would have you believe.
"Don't forget about tracking of cell phones as well as vehicles with On-Star, tollway transponders, and similar devices.
Big Brother is watching you."
Domestic Terrorism 101 - Andreas Strassmeir "The right-wing in The US is incredibly easy to penetrate if you know how to talk to them. Of course it's easier for a foreigner with an accent. ... eyeonhate.com/mcveigh/mcveigh5.html - 19k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
The John Doe Times Vol. III, No. 13 8 February 1997 IN THIS ISSUE ...
Howe gave the government information before the bombing on alleged threats by others in Elohim City, including this man, Andreas Strassmier. ...
www.constitution.org/okc/jdt03-13.htm - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
Strassmier admitted that he met McVeigh at a gun show . ... According to Howe, Strassmier was in charge of security and weapons training there. ... www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/okc9.htm - 29k - Cached - Similar pages
Andreas Strassmier was originally identified as a Nazi, ... The ADL knew from their Zionist agents, including Strassmier, about the ad McVeigh put in the ... www.apfn.org/apfn/mcveigh2.htm - 21k - Cached - Similar pages
The John Doe Times Vol. III, No. 13 8 February 1997 IN THIS ISSUE ... HOWE gave The government information before The bombing ON alleged threats by others IN Elohim City, including THIS man, Andreas Strassmier. ... xld.com/jdt/jd3-13.htm - 18k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
Oklahoma City Bombing John Doe #3 has been positively identified as Andreas Strassmier, a ... Strassmier is Jewish. This information has been confirmed by two ... www.freedomdomain.com/oklahoma.html - 95k - Cached - Similar pages
AR15.COM :: Forums :: Topic :: Minute Man Project Question ... that gave us Tim McViegh, Andreas Strassmier (AKA Andy the German) And Richard Wayne Snell Are involved with "the Minute Man Project". ... www.ar15.com/lite/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=377737 - 32k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
Kirk Lyons Filmed In Germany, Knew Strassmier Fam From: Bob Date: Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:49 am Subject: Kirk Lyons filmed in Germany, knew Strassmier fam. Vincent Petruskie ... www.thugsanon.org/htm/29052.html - 4k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
Mcveigh ... Yes. The mass media broadcasts that Strassmier sold McVeigh a knife and purchased military fatigues from McVeigh. They did not elaborate ... www.thugsanon.org/htm/21249.html - 6k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.thugsanon.org ]
FBI 'KNEW IN ADVANCE' OF OKLAHOMA BOMB [Free Republic] ... To: Rodger Schultz Thanks Rodger. I remember this particular article, but this is still the first time I heard of an actual AEP interview with Strassmier. ... www.freerepublic.com/forum/a16668.htm - 52k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
Thanks for the ping!
BTW, does anyone know if those "separitist" actually vote? I am not sure they are right wing or full circle loonie (theory that too far either left or right and you come full circle and share a lot of wacky ideas.)
And JD Cash has been on the 'disinformatzia" payroll since well before the bombing...
Both those guys could be a bit "far out" -- but they had the guts to dig in smelly places that I, for one, have always refused to even visit...
DEA reportedly has a videotape of the murders, taken by the DEA surveillance team covering Ron Goldman, not the only Mezzaluna employee to be murdered.... On July 30, 1993, eleven months before Simpson/Goldman murders, Ron Goldman's friend Brett Cantor was killed with a knife in a manner identical to Ron and Nicole: from behind and across the throat and stabbed repeatedly on the arms and chest. Michael Nigg, a waiter at the Mezzaluna was shot in the head and killed, another was stabbed to death in Aspen, Colorado and a third Mezzaluna waiter barely survived a car bombing.
Judge Ito's wife, a witness in the trial, was assigned to the LAPD Internal Affairs bureau and served as the LAPD liason to the DEA. Coincidentally, one of Judge Ito's bailiffs was shot to death during the trial, and a private detective consulting to the defense team on DNA evidence was also gunned down.
Whether or not *we spy on our own people* is largely dependent on how close their ties to the then-prominent Hererra drug cartel they are....
...Said the Jews after hearing Nazis were rounding up "criminals"...
Was he the guy known as OKCSubmariner? If so, why in the world was he banned? I've asked this countless times but have never received an answer.
That is a very intriguing question, if this is a credible report.
No -- his screen name was Michael Rivero. He was a serious conspiracy theorist. Among other things, he loved to post some pictures of a Ryder truck as "evidence" of ... well, I can't remember what, exactly, but it was of course a big conspiracy. He got more and more bizarre and abusive, and was finally banned.
So are you saying O.J. is not the killer?
I didn't do it, nobody saw me, you can't prove a thing....
As evidence that a Ryder truck identical to the one used in the OKC bombing, with military support equipment and personnel, was indeed at the Special Forces and FEMA training compound at Camp Gruber near Briggs OK at the approximate time of the bombing.
No, no...not THAT Simpson! ;-)
Pat Briley, aka OKCSubmariner was from OKC. Pat was a diligent researcher, but, unfortunately, he sometimes exhibited symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia. As long as you agreed with him, all was fine. But, if you disagreed with him in the slightest, you could see his mind magnify that disagreement over the course of an evening from different opinion to perceived attack, to enmity, and, finally, to outright persecution.
Although he had a vast array of facts at hand, he sometimes had difficulty distinguishing his own opinions from his facts -- and he refused to document his evidence. It primarily was for those reasons that we were unable to use his otherwise excellent information in the OKBIC Final Report.
Personally, I like Pat, but I do recall that, in a fit of his paranoid fury he did "out me" once by name in this forum -- a strict no-no... I didn't "blow the whistle on" him, but, perhaps he pulled a similar stunt on a less-forgiving FReeper; I just dont know for sure.
But, I do miss the guy sometimes...
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