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Democrat's e-mail address tied to postings (MD4Bush - FR Mentioned)
Baltimore Sun ^ | 12/16/05 | Jennifer Skalka

Posted on 12/16/2005 12:52:44 AM PST by conservative in nyc

An e-mail address of a former state Democratic Party worker was used in a discussion about Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley's marriage on a conservative Web site, a spokesman for the site said yesterday.

Kristinn Taylor, a spokesman for free republic.com, said Ryan O'Doherty's Democratic Party address was one of at least three used to operate the identity of MD4BUSH, the mysterious Internet poster who appears to have coaxed an aide to Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. into talking about the mayor's personal life.

MD4BUSH sought out another freerepublic visitor known as ncpac, who was later revealed to be longtime Ehrlich political aide Joseph F. Steffen Jr.

Steffen confirmed to a Washington Post reporter in February that he wrote the e-mails discussing O'Malley rumors. But after publishing several articles, the Post acknowledged that the reporter, Matthew Mosk, had logged on as MD4BUSH from his work computer to verify the exchange, further complicating the story.

Taylor said the latest information about e-mail addresses - which the Web site previously refused to release citing privacy rules - indicates that the Ehrlich aide was unfairly targeted by the governor's opponents.

"I think people ought to be concerned that political operatives and Washington Post reporters will violate your Internet privacy for their own nefarious purposes," Taylor said.

--Snip--

Walker, the Democratic spokesman, said the timing of Robinson's message and the leak about the MD4BUSH e-mail addresses is suspicious. It comes two days after a former state employee testified to a special committee that the Ehrlich administration dispatched Steffen to fire state workers because of their political affiliations.

"They're trying to derail the entire review process by the legislature by dribbling out something that is not new news," Walker said.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Free Republic; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: ehrlich; md4bush; ncpac; odoherty; omalley; ryanodoherty; steffen
As always, more at the link.

Comments from Democrat spokesmen questioning the timing of things - priceless. Especially when the original WaPo story conveniently broke the day after Mayor O'Malley put his foot in his mouth, likening Bush budget cuts to the 9/11 attacks, wiping that gaffe off of the front pages.

1 posted on 12/16/2005 12:52:46 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: NCPAC; MD4Bush; xcullen; Anti-Bubba182; Mo1; cyncooper; BillF; crushkerry; Howlin; backhoe; ...
MD4Bush Ping!

(Please FReepmail me if you want on or off the list.)

Confused about who MD4Bush is and why this all matters? Consult the MD4Bush Primer and the links contained in the first few responses on page 1 of the Primer.
2 posted on 12/16/2005 12:55:56 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
Kristinn Taylor, a spokesman for free republic.com

well, at least they got that right.

3 posted on 12/16/2005 1:00:40 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: conservative in nyc
"...the timing of Robinson's message and the leak about the MD4BUSH e-mail addresses is suspicious."

ROFLMAO!! This one has got to be an all time FR classic. Next they'll be saying Senator Daschle is deeply saddened.

It's all Bush's fault.

4 posted on 12/16/2005 1:12:25 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

They make it sound like you've been getting lessons from Karl "Evil Genius" Rove himself.


5 posted on 12/16/2005 1:18:03 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jim Robinson
I've got a question or two....

What little I know about the internet leads me to believe that you can (using your logs) only determine the machine address and by extension the ISP of a user; is that correct?

So if you know that Ryan signed up using one email account and then his account was accessed using others, you could determine his whereabouts assuming it was he that was the user at these known addresses. In other words, the user is defined by his account information.

So then, you would also have a trail by which you saw his habits change over time, namely, using signon information from different machines and providers over time.

Is that about right?

Assuming it is, and assuming that Ryan either accessed his account or gave his login information to someone at either mddems.org or possibly the mayor's office is it safe to assume that somewhere in your logs there's a connection to the mayor's office in addition to the mddems.org?

And finally, what is it about the IP information that makes the Washington Post stand out? Do they have a T1 line that screams Washington Post in general or does it go further and identify the machine and user specifically?

This is all speculation that's is driving at least three WBAL radio shows at this point as well as WBAL TV.

6 posted on 12/16/2005 1:25:24 AM PST by nunya bidness (Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction - Ronald Reagan)
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To: nunya bidness
MD4Bush's IP addresses are all local Maryland IPs for a large nationwide ISP. Nothing can be learned from them without an enforceable subpoena. Except, that is, for the Washington Post's hits to the account. Those came directly from a local Washington Post IP address and Mosk has already confessed to breaking into the account and stealing Joe Steffen's private electronic mail correspondence.

I have no way of knowing if any of the IP addresses logged are connected with Mayor O'Malley or any of his other political dirty tricksters. Wouldn't be a bit surprised if he's not behind all of this though. I've already heard they have a file on FR and are preparing a smear attack. Now why would they do that? I don't recall ever mentioning his name in connection to MD4Bush. Just makes you want to go hmmmmmmm....

8 posted on 12/16/2005 1:42:57 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
I have no way of knowing if any of the IP addresses logged are connected with Mayor O'Malley or any of his other political dirty tricksters. Wouldn't be a bit surprised if he's not behind all of this though. I've already heard they have a file on FR and are preparing a smear attack. Now why would they do that? I don't recall ever mentioning his name in connection to MD4Bush. Just makes you want to go hmmmmmmm....

Fascinating. So instead of just ignoring your little website the mayor's office is preparing a file, presumably to combat the connection. A connection that can't be proven, won't be covered by local media (other than WBAL), does nothing more than discuss allegations of the mayor's rumored infidelities, and in all likelihood isn't criminal.

That is unless, the actions of Ryan were somehow directed (remember he was the mayor's communications director at one time), to deflect attention to the mayor's habits in a contentious primary and put the weight of those rumors on one of Ehrlich's staffers (since fired), create a state committee to look in to the alleged firing habits of the (since fired employee) governor's office within his authority and discretion, and otherwise derail the incumbent's campaign against the same mayor.

I guess it's safe to assume that the mayor would try to distance himself from Ryan, his brother Damian, Damian's boss Baltimore County executive Jim Smith, Ryan's current employer who hired him on the mayor's word, and Montgomery County executive Doug Duncan, who has everything to gain from this scandal, and a rumor that the mayor tried to squash by posing with his wife, the daughter of Maryland Attorney General Joe Curran, in an attempt to run a fair campaign for governor.

Did I miss anything?

9 posted on 12/16/2005 1:58:17 AM PST by nunya bidness (Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction - Ronald Reagan)
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To: nunya bidness
"Did I miss anything?"

I have no idea. I know absolutely nothing about Maryland politics and had never even heard of Mayor O'Malley or the supposed rumors of his alleged marital infidelities. And I suppose I never would've known anything about any of it had it not been for Mosk's story on FReepers MD4Bush and NCPAC.

But now I'm really starting to wonder. Haven't seen it in print yet, but I was told today that Mayor O'Malley asked a reporter why anyone would believe "that" guy. Referring to me. After all, he says, that's the guy who accused Bill and Hillary Clinton of murder and said that George W Bush was a drug dealer. ROTFLOL!

Now it's obvious someone in the Mayor's camp has done some research on FR and O'Malley had already been briefed on some talking points before today's interview. Why would they go to all that trouble? Why is O'Malley so concerned about FR?

Well, I guess if they carry through with the smear campaign, then we'll know we're smack dab over the target. Bombs away!

10 posted on 12/16/2005 2:13:33 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Haven't seen it in print yet, but I was told today that Mayor O'Malley asked a reporter why anyone would believe "that" guy. Referring to me. After all, he says, that's the guy who accused Bill and Hillary Clinton of murder and said that George W Bush was a drug dealer.

Looks like you're ground zero in a small campaign in a small state that has nationwide implications. I've got to hand it to the MD dems, they've spent their money wisely in their opposition research. You've now become a source and as such must be marginalized. And the only way to do that is to splatter your own words against you.

But that doesn't do much to deflect the rumors of the mayor's infidelities, or why it's coming out now. In fact, it appears that the rumors will now be hung around your neck.

Namely, a guy from Fresno who runs a political website that just so happens to be infiltrated by Maryland Democrat operatives trying to smear a Republican governor who broke a thirty year stranglehold on a 2/3rds majority Democrat state by the same incumbent gov who happens to have one of the most statesmanlike black Lt. Governors in history who happens to be running for the senate.

In other words, I think it's safe to assume that the tried and true methods of Democrat electioneering won't work and now it's time to take on the "alternative media".

It should be said that Governor Ehrlich locked out reporters from the Baltimore Sun and relied on talk-radio to get his message to the people of the state. He was widely castigated for his impulsive decision. But now it's seems obvious. You can take on an opponent who buys ink by the barrel.

You just have to invest in the alternative media.

Advantage Ehrlich. But more importantly, advantage Steele.

11 posted on 12/16/2005 2:41:07 AM PST by nunya bidness (Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction - Ronald Reagan)
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To: conservative in nyc

still waiting for the that CNN or MSM segment on this corruption ...


12 posted on 12/16/2005 2:55:04 AM PST by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad against The Red Cross.)
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To: nunya bidness
Well, I think that by attempting to smear FR, they're as much as admitting that MD4Bush is one of their own, and that they're afraid he's going to be linked back to O'Malley. Now why would they fear that unless it's true?

By the way, the little side scandal that broke yesterday on WBAL should be headlines in the Baltimore papers:

"Since then, the 11 News I-Team has contacted O'Doherty several times by e-mail, but he has yet to respond.

O'Doherty worked for the state's Democratic Party during the timeframe in which MD4Bush exchanged private e-mails with former gubernatorial aide Joe Steffen on the Free Republic Web site.

In those e-mails, MD4Bush coaxed Steffen to discuss rumors about the mayor's personal life.

In addition to serving as a party spokesman, O'Doherty worked as the organization's computer tech who maintained the Web site, e-mails and staff computer workstations.

O'Doherty left the party in late January this year, roughly two weeks before The Washington Post broke the Steffen rumormongering story.

Collins reported O'Doherty is a strong supporter of Mayor O'Malley and a friend of O'Malley aide Steve Kearney.

Kearney and O'Doherty once worked together at the Baltimore Archdiocese. Kearney said he doesn't recall whether he tried to help O'Doherty find a job.

O'Doherty found employment in a newly-created and unadvertised position with the Baltimore Metropolitan Council, a publicly-funded organization associated with Baltimore's City Hall and surrounding county governments.

According to three board members -- all of them elected officials -- Baltimore County Executive Jim Smith recommended O'Doherty for the job and passed his resume around the table during a Jan. 25 meeting.

Through a spokesman, Smith said he doesn't recall doing that. O'Doherty's brother, Damien, is a top aide to Smith.

One elected official on the Baltimore Metropolitan Council's board recalls that O'Doherty's name came up during a Jan. 25 board meeting. At that time, O'Malley acknowledged knowing O'Doherty.

The mayor's office did not answer the 11 News I-Team's questions on Wednesday about O'Malley's recollection of that meeting."

http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/5538206/detail.html

Looks like Mayor O'Malley is head over heels involved in some very real corruption of his own doing and has some 'splainin' to do. If I were a citizen of Baltimore, I think I'd want to get to the bottom of this. And if I were a citizen of Maryland and this guy is running for governor, I think I'd be more than just a little concerned. And if O'Malley has presidential ambitions, I think he and I are going to be going round and round in the not too distant future. He looks to be nothing more than another slimeball Clinton to me.
13 posted on 12/16/2005 3:11:27 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
And if O'Malley has presidential ambitions, I think he and I are going to be going round and round in the not too distant future.

It's been obvious by the mayor's presentation of himself that's all he's intereseted in from day one.

So rest assured he's going to use you as far as that will get him in his ambition.

Problem is, he didn't account for his underlings getting their hands dirty. Expect them to try to cleanse themselves.

Just one problem, they're almost as ambitious as he is and the clock's ticking for them. Namely, Damian, and Ryan O'Doherty, their enabler Jim Smith, MDems, the mayor's office, and Democrat operatives statewide.

When Paul Sarbanes saw the writing on the wall, this bunch wrote it off. Big mistake.

14 posted on 12/16/2005 3:21:34 AM PST by nunya bidness (Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson
"..Except, that is, for the Washington Post's hits to the account. Those came directly from a local Washington Post IP address and Mosk has already confessed to breaking into the account and stealing Joe Steffen's private electronic mail correspondence..."

Unlawful Access to Stored Communications 18 U.S.C. 2701.

"§ 2701. Unlawful Access to Stored Communications

(a) Offense.--Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section whoever–

(1) intentionally accesses without authorization a facility through which an electronic communication service is provided; or

(2) intentionally exceeds an authorization to access that facility; and thereby obtains, alters, or prevents authorized access to a wire or electronic communication while it is in electronic storage in such system shall be punished as provided in subsection (b) of this section. "

Registration and User Agreement

"User Account Confidentiality: User agrees to protect user's account and password and not to disclose account information to any third party."

Mosk should have looked at the Registration and User Agreement before he used MD4Bush's password. If he had he would see MD4Bush had no right to pass that to him. As a professional journalist he can't excuse himself that he didn't read the rules. He should have.

15 posted on 12/16/2005 3:22:10 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: conservative in nyc
MD4BUSH sought out another freerepublic visitor known as ncpac, who was later revealed to be longtime Ehrlich political aide Joseph F. Steffen Jr.

How was MD4BUSH able to seek out Steffen?

16 posted on 12/16/2005 4:00:12 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: conservative in nyc

BUMP


17 posted on 12/16/2005 4:04:34 AM PST by kitkat (Democrat/Socialist/Communist.= Hillary the RED)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"User Account Confidentiality: User agrees to protect user's account and password and not to disclose account information to any third party." Ooooops!
18 posted on 12/16/2005 4:09:24 AM PST by harpu
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To: Loyal Buckeye
He deduced his real world identity from his screen name, NCPAC and clues he left as he was posting. NCPAC, short for, National Conservative Political Action Committee was a small organization and he left other clues as he was posting.

I think the NCPAC screen name rang a bell for MD4Bush and he began digging.

19 posted on 12/16/2005 4:17:14 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Lancey Howard
They make it sound like you've been getting lessons from Karl "Evil Genius" Rove himself.

How do you know that Jim Rob isn't Karl Rove himself?

That guy in Fresno is probably just a front.

Evil Geniuses do things like that, you know.

20 posted on 12/16/2005 4:20:50 AM PST by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Interesting. Implicit in your explanation is that MD4BUSH was monitoring FR.


21 posted on 12/16/2005 4:25:27 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye

I guess once he saw the Moniker of NCPAC he got motivated.


22 posted on 12/16/2005 4:28:41 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: nunya bidness
But that doesn't do much to deflect the rumors of the mayor's infidelities, or why it's coming out now. In fact, it appears that the rumors will now be hung around your neck.

I guess Jim will have to hire a private investigator to figure out if the mayor is cheating or not. He probably dosen't really care either way, but if these dirtbags insist on attacking him...;-)
23 posted on 12/16/2005 4:28:51 AM PST by cgbg (MSM and Democratic treason--fifty years and counting...)
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To: conservative in nyc

Comments from Democrat spokesmen questioning the timing of things - priceless.
@@@@@

They reveal their private thoughts every time!!!!! Don't you just love their projection.


24 posted on 12/16/2005 4:35:58 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: Buckhead

I'm tempted to bet my entire portfolio that the Baltimore Sun Papers will not report on this follow up story. . .


25 posted on 12/16/2005 4:47:42 AM PST by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. stands for - Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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To: Jim Robinson
Walker, the Democratic spokesman, said the timing of Robinson's message and the leak about the MD4BUSH e-mail addresses is suspicious. It comes two days after a former state employee testified to a special committee that the Ehrlich administration dispatched Steffen to fire state workers because of their political affiliations.

"They're trying to derail the entire review process by the legislature by dribbling out something that is not new news," Walker said.

This is SOP "big bad wolf attack" by the dems. Otherwise known as a "first stage, class 5, full roaming vapor". The "threat". And that if you (FR) don't back off, the big bad wolf (Dems) are going to blow your house away.

LOL!!!

Simply stunning. You run a website. Dems plant a dirty trick. Repub guy gets axed. Facts (those gnarly things) continue to reveal the set-up by Maryland Dems. Dem party then begins "obliquely" worded threats against a website owner/operator.

This is not how the "not-guilty" behaves. The "not-guilty" behaves in ways that say: Prove your facts. That's what the "not-guilty" do.

26 posted on 12/16/2005 5:11:31 AM PST by Alia
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To: Jim Robinson
I wouldn't trust the Sunpapers to line my birdcage. The rumor about O'Malley was popping up here for a few years before the MD4Bush episode. When this hit the fan, WBAL radio guys were talking about their sources on the rumor - Democrats. There was speculation at that time about which Dem camp was spreading this around.
O'Malley, the Dem controlled state congress and the Sunpapers have been battling with Gov.Ehrlich from the beginning, smearing him at every opportunity. Seems to me O'Malley just makes a lot of noise because he has nothing else to offer.
The way the Dems in this state have treated (our future Senator) Steele is deplorable. As a transplant into MD, what I see of Rat politics here is filthy.
27 posted on 12/16/2005 5:18:29 AM PST by pieces of time
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To: maica
They reveal their private thoughts every time!!!!! Don't you just love their projection.

It is so predictable as to give credence to the statement that liberalism is a mental disease. It is a trait we all have because we naturally see the world through our own lens of experience, but with them it is scary.

28 posted on 12/16/2005 5:26:25 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
It is so predictable as to give credence to the statement that liberalism is a mental disease. It is a trait we all have because we naturally see the world through our own lens of experience, but with them it is scary.

Yes, it is. I studied parapsychology for a number of years, from the scientific end. Before I moved onto other studies, I was studying "OBE" -- "out of body experiences" material. Dem psychology continues to show me that they are out of their bodies, and think they are experiencing transcendental "data" about life. In fact what they are experiencing is merely an "inner drama" perspective, but calling it reality.

I'm grateful we are not all on the same "plane" as they are.

29 posted on 12/16/2005 5:42:19 AM PST by Alia
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To: Alia
I'm grateful we are not all on the same "plane" as they are.

I am not as grateful as you. Is there a way to escape it short of suicide? :-)

30 posted on 12/16/2005 6:06:04 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Major Bumpity Bump!


31 posted on 12/16/2005 6:09:14 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Jim Robinson
I have no way of knowing if any of the IP addresses logged are connected with Mayor O'Malley or any of his other political dirty tricksters. Wouldn't be a bit surprised if he's not behind all of this though. I've already heard they have a file on FR and are preparing a smear attack. Now why would they do that? I don't recall ever mentioning his name in connection to MD4Bush.

So the O'Mally camp will use wild-eyed posts that are not representative of FR to tarnish FR. What will their message be?

"Yeah, our guy signed up at that wacky website. He bad-mouthed MO'M. He even called Senator Mikulski a lesbian. And to the point, he did target Steffan and deceived the Washington Post. But he did it at that crazy website. It doesn't matter."

That's their defense?

32 posted on 12/16/2005 7:26:20 AM PST by SolidSupplySide
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To: conservative in nyc
An e-mail address of a former state Democratic Party worker was used in a discussion about Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley's marriage on a conservative Web site, a spokesman for the site said yesterday.

Oh. I see. "Somebody" used "somebody's" email address. The fact that it was the email address of a Democrat activist doesn't seem to set off any alarm bells for this "journalist".

33 posted on 12/16/2005 7:35:52 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: conservative in nyc
Ryan O'Doherty's Democratic Party address was one of at least three used to operate the identity of MD4BUSH

Well, well...

We expect full coverage of this from The Baltimore Sun [irony, sarcasm alert].

34 posted on 12/16/2005 7:38:18 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: pieces of time
The O'Malley infidelity rumors weren't just popping up here. Mrs. O'Malley herself brought them up when being interviewed for a 2000 Washington Post style article. She blamed her husband's Baltimore City Council opponents for spreading them then.
35 posted on 12/16/2005 9:36:00 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
O'Malley should get jail time, along with his whole gang of conspirators. Steffen should be rehired with back pay. The Washington Post and the Baltimore Sun should be shut down and investigated for criminal activity.
36 posted on 12/16/2005 9:40:31 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: conservative in nyc
Comments from Democrat spokesmen questioning the timing of things - priceless.

Democrat spokesman Walker knows exactly how the addresses were outed.

37 posted on 12/16/2005 12:15:50 PM PST by bimbo
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To: Jim Robinson
"...the timing of Robinson's message and the leak about the MD4BUSH e-mail addresses is suspicious."

Those addresses were leaked to/by WBAL for some Democrat purpose, which isn't yet clear.

38 posted on 12/16/2005 12:19:29 PM PST by bimbo
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To: Jim Robinson
,... they have a file on FR and are preparing a smear attack.

These Democrat Operatives in MD are ingenious ... I'd bet several have been conversing with each other, using derogatory terms to make FR look bad and using yahoo.com to cover their tracks.

39 posted on 12/16/2005 12:30:07 PM PST by bimbo
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