Posted on 12/16/2005 9:14:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge
Isn't spying completely legal under 'Scottish Law'???
Hasn't the NSA been monitoring international calls for years? Remember people's "distress" that after 9/11 intercepted calls from the terrs had not been looked at only stored?
Mountain, meet molehill.
Yup..
and the BARRETT Report
And to shove the Alito confirmation hearings back indefinitely to give the Dims' smear campaign more time to work.
So you suggest conducting electronic surveillance within our borders for the purpose of making our country secure and safer has absolutely nothing to do with the on-going, widespread security breach of our borders?
If this is the case, why do banks spend many millions on secured vaults to hold valuables? Would you suggest banks just leave their vault doors open for all, and just install listening devises?
That would be like you installing microphones in your home for security purposes, and then leaving your doors wide open, unlocked.
I am all for domestic intelligence and security, as I stated in my first post, but the above is exactly what is occurring in the United States.
Huh?
Sen Kennedy was later quoted as saying, "I have three pair of black shoes, a snowblower and some left over chicken in the fridge. Given that, I believe our borders are too open."
Spector call Rockefeller, he obviously didn't read the actual article before reacting. Tell me once again why Bush supported this joker.
I agree with that. However, during that period of our history we did not have thousands entering this country illegally every week. I don't think they would have put up with that in the 1940s, during wartime. Do you?
Let's not forget, we're talking about America (the good guys!) - in it's effort to stop future terrorist attacks. I'm sure they are looking at potential terrorist suspects only. Do you, or your profile, come anywhere near that. No? Then...not to worry, my friend.
Excuse me...Then, what is the evil intent of the NSA? It's kinda hard to visualize the danger they pose to me, while they conduct investigations of terrorist suspects.
I am saying that you can't use the latter as a basis for your being for or against the former, because there's no necessary connection between them.
Yes, they're both security issues; however, they're not the same security issue -- you can be for or against one, and for or against the other, and still be able to build a consistent argument for whatever combination of opinions you happen to hold.
Strip him of his chairmanship.
Alas, you would be incorrect, sir. According to this site:
The onset of World War II led Mexican migration to rebound, as Uncle Sam again faced a domestic labor shortage. Corporate recruiters flocked across the border afresh, looking for temporary farm workers, and Washington, D.C. and Mexico City searched for creative solutions to the lack of workers. These efforts culminated in the Emergency Farm Labor Act of 1942--better known as the bracero program.Under the bracero program U.S. officials could hire Mexican workers selected by the Mexican government and then, after guaranteeing transportation and a minimum wage, subcontract them to major agricultural interests. By the late 1950s, more than 400,000 seasonal braceros--the word is derived from the Spanish brazo, or "arm"--toiled legally on farms and orchards in Texas and other states. Their vulnerability to abuse by employers troubled the Mexican government, but the money they sent home was sufficiently valuable to their nation's economy that the program continued until 1964, when the American civil rights and farm worker movements, as well as the continuing mechanization of harvests, led Washington, D.C., to unilaterally call it off.
Interestingly, the program looks quite similar to the guest worker program proposed by the Bush Administration.
"These so called Americans (Republicans) in the US senate are scum bags. They want their names in the NYTs and the Washington Post more than they want to protect the nation."
Why not give it to "so called Americans (Republicans) in the US senate" to further their reelections?
Well of course they are both security issues. I never said they were exactly the same. You are the one that stated conducting warrantless electronic surveillance within our borders for the purpose of making our country secure and safer was (apples and oranges) compared to securing our borders.
Both are national security issues. However, our borders and immigration policies are our critical first line of defense, which should, without question, make them paramount and the number one priority in so far as national security is concerned.
Would you not agree?
Nothing at all to do with the NSA. My response had to do with the timing of this information and the zeal the Dems and RINOs received it. Just in time to push Able Danger further out of sight and get the Iraqi elections out of the public eye.
'nyslimes dictates policy again'
not only will this push able danger out of the limelight, but, the huge turn out of Iraqi voters will be ignored.
The paper should rename itself to the New York Democrat's Times. What is really frightening is the collaboration between the national main stream media and the Democratic Party.
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