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Red card for Arnie (Tookie fallout)
This Is London ^ | 16 December 2005 | Oliver Stallwood

Posted on 12/16/2005 2:16:35 PM PST by newzjunkey

Furious politicians from Arnold Schwarzenegger's home city have turned on him over his refusal to stop the execution of a reformed gangster.

Councillors in the Austrian city of Graz yesterday voted to remove the California governor's name from the local football stadium.

The move comes after the Terminator star denied clemency to convicted murderer Stanley 'Tookie'Williams, 51, the co-founder of Los Angeles' notorious Crips gang.

Graz deputy mayor Walter Ferk said: said: 'It is annoying that we are being criticised because of Schwarzenegger's actions in California.

'It is not exactly admirable for us to be connected with the death penalty. Therefore, I am in favour of renaming the stadium.'

The news came as it was revealed that Williams' ashes would be scattered in South Africa.

Barbara Becnel, who co-authored his anti-gang books, said: 'Tookie wanted to return to his ancestral home. We chose South Africa because I know some members of the Mandela family.'

Becnel added that Williams' body will be taken to Los Angeles for a memorial service which will probably be held on Tuesday.

'A site has not been picked but it will be a large venue that can hold more than 16,000 people,' she said.

Speakers include rapper Snoop Dogg and the Rev Jesse Jackson. After the funeral, close friends will travel to South Africa for another ceremony.

'Stan probably wanted to go back to his origin, where we came from as a people,' said his ex-wife, Bonnie Williams Taylor.

Williams always protested his innocence and during his years in jail he became an active anti-gang and antiviolence campaigner.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; austria; california; deathpenalty; eurotwits; execution; governator; liebenaustadium; schwarzenegger; stanleywilliams; tookie; whocares
Should be interesting to see how folks view Arnold's stand for the death penalty in light of this action by his home town back in Austria.

I knew this was threatened but I had no idea it would actually pass. Perhaps this is one reason he became an American.

1 posted on 12/16/2005 2:16:37 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey
To: Austria

From: The USA

We'll keep Arnold, but will send you COD all the Crips you can handle.

2 posted on 12/16/2005 2:23:10 PM PST by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: newzjunkey

He didn't become Governor of California to worry about what the folks back in Graz do. He represents the people of California.


3 posted on 12/16/2005 2:24:46 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: newzjunkey
A murderer gets a celebrity send-off? Good riddance. What matters is that justice was done. I could care less that Snoop Dogg and ol' Jesse are emceeing his service.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

4 posted on 12/16/2005 2:28:46 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: newzjunkey

must be a slow day at This Is London


5 posted on 12/16/2005 2:30:20 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: newzjunkey
So Arnold has become "persona non Graz?"

BFW!

(Big Freakin' Whoop!)

6 posted on 12/16/2005 2:31:36 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: newzjunkey

Furious politicians from Arnold Schwarzenegger's home city have turned on him over his refusal to stop the execution of a reformed gangster.

He never took responsibility for his crime. How can they say he is reformed. Left wing crapola.


7 posted on 12/16/2005 2:34:08 PM PST by babydoll22 (If you stop growing as a person you live in your own private hell.)
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To: newzjunkey

These morons have priorities elsewhere.


8 posted on 12/16/2005 2:46:47 PM PST by sagar
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To: newzjunkey

Austria trying to interfere in the internal affairs of California.... Now that is a sight.


9 posted on 12/16/2005 2:48:58 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: newzjunkey
...reformed gangster.

Stanley was as much as a "reformed gangster" as Teddy Kennedy is a "reformed a$$hole."
10 posted on 12/16/2005 2:52:13 PM PST by msnimje (Political Correctness -- An OFFENSIVE attempt not to offend.)
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To: newzjunkey

I was going to say, what the hell is a soccer reference (red card) doing in an American story, but I noticed that it's from London and they love that sissy sport....nevermind :)


11 posted on 12/16/2005 2:53:03 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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Stanley was as much as a "reformed gangster" as Teddy Kennedy is a "reformed a$$hole."

Or a "reformed alcoholic"
12 posted on 12/16/2005 2:53:32 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: babydoll22

"He (Tookie) never took responsibility for his crimes."

The Austrians never took responsibility for their Nazi past. Therefore, Americans don't need lessons in morality from Hitler's children in Graz, Linz, or Innsbruck.


13 posted on 12/16/2005 2:57:15 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: newzjunkey
said his ex-wife, Bonnie Williams Taylor.

The guy gets convicted of 4 murders, and she still uses his NAME?!?! *BARF*

As for Arnie, no wonder he became an American.

Grant clemency, or we'll.... we'll.... take your name off of the soccer stadium!!!! The horror!
14 posted on 12/16/2005 3:11:30 PM PST by conservatrice
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To: newzjunkey

This is the kinda stuff that happens when you name a public place after a LIVING individual. DUMB! My town keeps doing this, only to be embarrassed when the honoree is indicted.

I suggest the stadium be named Crips field.


15 posted on 12/16/2005 3:13:14 PM PST by Mister Da (Nuke 'em til they glow!)
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To: popdonnelly
He represents the people of California.

Not entirely or completely.

16 posted on 12/16/2005 3:14:56 PM PST by stboz
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To: newzjunkey

That's ok, Arnie can build a dozen stadiums and put whatever name he wants to on them.


17 posted on 12/16/2005 3:25:38 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: newzjunkey

I find it difficult to accept criticism from the country that gave us Adolph Hitler.


18 posted on 12/16/2005 3:26:41 PM PST by 04-Bravo
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To: sagar
"Councillors in the Austrian city of Graz yesterday voted to remove the California governor's name from the local football stadium."

OMG!!!!!!!Now the Grazians don't like us!...Run for cover!...Life vests on!...Lock and load!...
...Wait a minute...I'm not a democrap.......
19 posted on 12/16/2005 3:52:30 PM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (sayyy....this Al Qaida thing looks serious....)
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To: newzjunkey

Well, Austria is still linked to it's most famous native son, Hitler. As they say, the Germans were Nazis. The Austrians ARE Nazis. But I kid the Eurotrash. They oppose capital punishment on firm moral grounds. They prefer killing the innocent, not the guilty!


20 posted on 12/16/2005 3:54:50 PM PST by JAWs (A forum about the movie's subject matter was held at St. John's Episcopal Church.)
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To: JAWs
Well said.

Arnold's far from my favorite politician but he's way ahead of the euroweenies.
21 posted on 12/16/2005 4:12:52 PM PST by vic ryan
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