Skip to comments.ACLU Shocked at Bush Use of National Security Agency for Domestic Spying...
Posted on 12/16/2005 6:31:55 PM PST by Jay777
WASHINGTON - The American Civil Liberties Union today expressed shock about revelations reported in the New York Times that President Bush secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on conversations of Americans and others in the United States. According to the report, this spying occurred without any court order and was focused on telephone and e-mail communications of "hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people inside the United States" with persons abroad. Electronic surveillance law generally prohibits non-consensual eavesdropping in the U.S. without a court order based on probable cause.
The following can be attributed to Caroline Fredrickson, Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office:
"Eavesdropping on conversations of U.S citizens and others in the United States without a court order and without complying with the procedures of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is both illegal and unconstitutional. The administration is claiming extraordinary presidential powers at the expense of civil liberties and is putting the president above the law. Congress must investigate this report thoroughly. We also call upon Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to appoint a special prosecutor to independently investigate whether crimes have been committed.
(Excerpt) Read more at aclu.org ...
let's see if the administration has learned anything from the Fitzgerald fiasco - or if they just go into the usual "defense" mode on this nonsense.
that doesn't mean DOJ can't appoint an independent counsel.
Can the New York Times be prosecuted for sedition?...
(they're leaking classified info during wartime)
It's very bad, when the nation's "most influential" newspaper, is actively giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
How 'bout a special porsecuter to look into ACLU subversive and Un-American activities?
The ACLU is an anti-American subversive pro-crime organization that hates religion.
That's true. It would be unprecedented that the DoJ would appoint a special prosecutor to review a finding that the DoJ issued. It would set a very bad precedent.
I understand your sentiment regarding the New York Times however you must concede that the Bush Administration has done absolutely NOTHING to stop the continueous weekly (sometimes daily) leaks coming out of the CIA and the Pentagon since before the Iraqi War. I think Bush should pay attention to the leakers within the government and respond to their illegal acts appropriately rather than shut down the free press. Furthermore, the Bush admisnistration's PR Department is becoming a nightmare, if you ask me. The White House spokeperson is a clown and should have stepped down long ago.
The New York Times lost its credibility with the American People long ago. But leakers in government... they are the real law breakers.
I knew the Dims would be all over this....like flies on....oh well, you know!
I said the same thing.
ACLU = Alqueda Civil Liberties Union
I'm all for it. At least Bush didn't throw Japanese-Americans into concentration camps, like Roosevelt, or throw political opponents in jail, like Lincoln.
What happened? Sure, we got attacked by a bunch of terrorists but do we have to help them now? As I was led to believe, the objective of 'Atta and Co.' was to destroy our way of life. With the Patriot Act, the FEMA fiasco and a continual assault on the American Way by the media it doesn't seem like all that good an idea to allow a President--- ANY President to break the laws so many have died to uphold. While some might compare such actions to some sort of 'slippery slope,' it seems to me to be more like jumping into a black hole.
If he has broken the law, he needs to answer for it, just like you or I would.
They are shocked ... shocked I tell you.
Well said. Donald Rumsfield and Porter Goss MUST find these leakers and expose them for what they are. Seditious traitors.
what is also amazing about this, is how the adminisrtation is totally blind sided by this.
this was obviously well planned to be released this week during the iraqi elections and the Patriot Act revote, well orchestrated with the various leftist groups, and even McCain and Spector seem to have been tipped to do their thing and instantly call for investigations.
yet, the administration is once again not prepared with any rebuttal. is anyone at the white house plugged in to the political machinations inside the Beltway, before they break?
"Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Kinda cool." Didn't anyone tell the queer-baits??
The ACLU supports terrorists, so of course they would be upset about policies that negatively impact their "friends".
ACLU = Anti Christian Lawyers Union
The President has followed the law on this matter.
did you even read the original article? even the Times piece itself mentions how many justice department reviews took place during each use of this. what the hell do you want the president to do, ask the ACLU and the NYT their opinion on this matter before exercising this?
I signed the petition.
If the notion of a special prosecutor hasn't been thoroughly discredited by now, I vote that it should be. To be as blunt as possible, special prosecutors are a waste of time and money, and only serve to trash the reputations of otherwise worthy individuals.
On the other hand, we are very interested in bringing the New York Times and their running dog lackeys before the bar of justice and sending them all to prison for a very long time.
Welcome to FreeRepublic. How'd ya find your way here?
Ummm... can the ACLU come up with a single person who has suffered unjustly becasue of this?
I didn't think so...
watch the opening segment of OReilly on the replay (Tony Snow hosts) and listen to some informed people talking about this. that's all I can tell you.
Someone broke the law alright - the Official Secrets Act.
They signed it. Promised, under penalty of a world of hurt dropping on their head, to uphold it, for America.
Then somebody didn't. They should go to jail.
and no, its not "better then trashing the 4th amendment". the constitution is not a suicide pact.
You got that right. The Rats at the New York Slimes sat on this for a year until they thought the time was right to spring it. No good news for President Bush can go on for long before Slimes & Co. manufacture negative news.
I'd like to shock the ACLU with about 10,000,000 volts.
did you even read the original article?
who gets to decide what is "legal"? the ACLU and the NYT, do we have to get them to sign onto it?
Every administration has had leaks precisely because you can't stop it.
The Anti-American Communist Lawyers Ass is shocked, shocked! Another group firmly against Iraqi Democracy!
This is nothing more than a Book Promotion!!!!
Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters
If an American citizen is having a conversation with a foreign national, and that conversation contains language which includes any reference to blowing up, running into, flying into, or dropping anything on, a building, train, tunnel, bridge, or structure inside the borders of the United States, all rules are cancelled, all bets are off, and all rights of the participants are revoked.
We're fighting a war..A WAR!!!! Just like 1941...we are AT WAR!!!
Tell ya what, let AQ fly another plane into a building full of liberals..like the NYT building..and lets see if there is a change of heart.
These people will get us all killed..
Nothing to see here folks, no crime committed, move along now.
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