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ACLU Shocked at Bush Use of National Security Agency for Domestic Spying...
ACLU ^ | 12/15/2005

Posted on 12/16/2005 6:31:55 PM PST by Jay777

WASHINGTON - The American Civil Liberties Union today expressed shock about revelations reported in the New York Times that President Bush secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on conversations of Americans and others in the United States. According to the report, this spying occurred without any court order and was focused on telephone and e-mail communications of "hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people inside the United States" with persons abroad. Electronic surveillance law generally prohibits non-consensual eavesdropping in the U.S. without a court order based on probable cause.

The following can be attributed to Caroline Fredrickson, Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office:

"Eavesdropping on conversations of U.S citizens and others in the United States without a court order and without complying with the procedures of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is both illegal and unconstitutional. The administration is claiming extraordinary presidential powers at the expense of civil liberties and is putting the president above the law. Congress must investigate this report thoroughly. We also call upon Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to appoint a special prosecutor to independently investigate whether crimes have been committed.

(Excerpt) Read more at aclu.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; intelligence; nsa; patriotleak; probe
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1 posted on 12/16/2005 6:31:56 PM PST by Jay777
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To: RepCath; Liz; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; EdReform; Nick Danger; ...
PING!
2 posted on 12/16/2005 6:33:33 PM PST by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777
There is no special counsel law.
3 posted on 12/16/2005 6:34:16 PM PST by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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4 posted on 12/16/2005 6:34:33 PM PST by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

let's see if the administration has learned anything from the Fitzgerald fiasco - or if they just go into the usual "defense" mode on this nonsense.


5 posted on 12/16/2005 6:35:32 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Perdogg

that doesn't mean DOJ can't appoint an independent counsel.


6 posted on 12/16/2005 6:36:14 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Jay777

Can the New York Times be prosecuted for sedition?...

(they're leaking classified info during wartime)

It's very bad, when the nation's "most influential" newspaper, is actively giving aid and comfort to the enemy.


7 posted on 12/16/2005 6:36:17 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Hyphenated-Americans unite!!)
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To: Jay777

How 'bout a special porsecuter to look into ACLU subversive and Un-American activities?


8 posted on 12/16/2005 6:37:37 PM PST by demlosers
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To: Jay777

The ACLU is an anti-American subversive pro-crime organization that hates religion.


9 posted on 12/16/2005 6:38:01 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: oceanview

That's true. It would be unprecedented that the DoJ would appoint a special prosecutor to review a finding that the DoJ issued. It would set a very bad precedent.


10 posted on 12/16/2005 6:38:26 PM PST by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I understand your sentiment regarding the New York Times however you must concede that the Bush Administration has done absolutely NOTHING to stop the continueous weekly (sometimes daily) leaks coming out of the CIA and the Pentagon since before the Iraqi War. I think Bush should pay attention to the leakers within the government and respond to their illegal acts appropriately rather than shut down the free press. Furthermore, the Bush admisnistration's PR Department is becoming a nightmare, if you ask me. The White House spokeperson is a clown and should have stepped down long ago.
The New York Times lost its credibility with the American People long ago. But leakers in government... they are the real law breakers.

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11 posted on 12/16/2005 6:40:40 PM PST by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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I knew the Dims would be all over this....like flies on....oh well, you know!


12 posted on 12/16/2005 6:41:15 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Jay777
Once again, the ACLU loves to twist things.. the key to the original allegation is that they were tapping international calls and e-mails. All the NSA had to do was go through monitoring stations outside the US (eg on communication traffic hubs and tsos throughout the world)and its perfectly legal.

GOOD JOB NSA!
Buh-Bye ACLU
14 posted on 12/16/2005 6:44:59 PM PST by mnehring (“Anybody who doesn’t appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell”...)
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To: demlosers

I said the same thing.


15 posted on 12/16/2005 6:45:22 PM PST by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

ACLU = Alqueda Civil Liberties Union


16 posted on 12/16/2005 6:47:19 PM PST by stratman1969 (CLINTON LIED - 3,000+ DIED)
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To: Jay777
The American Civil Liberties Union today expressed shock about revelations reported in the New York Times... So the ACLU expressed "shock" relating to a story in the New York Times? I do that everyday.
17 posted on 12/16/2005 6:48:34 PM PST by HoosierHawk (Federal law prohibits the removal of this...)
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To: Jay777

I'm all for it. At least Bush didn't throw Japanese-Americans into concentration camps, like Roosevelt, or throw political opponents in jail, like Lincoln.


18 posted on 12/16/2005 6:49:27 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I hate bringing up what many consider ancient history, but back when Slick Willie was being impeached we all joined together in a massive chorus of "We're a Nation of Laws," and "No President is Above the Law."

What happened? Sure, we got attacked by a bunch of terrorists but do we have to help them now? As I was led to believe, the objective of 'Atta and Co.' was to destroy our way of life. With the Patriot Act, the FEMA fiasco and a continual assault on the American Way by the media it doesn't seem like all that good an idea to allow a President--- ANY President to break the laws so many have died to uphold. While some might compare such actions to some sort of 'slippery slope,' it seems to me to be more like jumping into a black hole.
If he has broken the law, he needs to answer for it, just like you or I would.

19 posted on 12/16/2005 6:50:19 PM PST by oldfart ("All governments and all civilizations fall... eventually. Our government is not immune.)
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To: Jay777

They are shocked ... shocked I tell you.


20 posted on 12/16/2005 6:50:55 PM PST by Hack
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