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Brokeback Mountin Bombs at Box Office; Holiday BO smells
data from Box Office Mojo ^ | 12/17/05 | Dangus

Posted on 12/17/2005 11:10:22 AM PST by dangus

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To: texson66

Guess the sheep wouldn't have them.


101 posted on 12/17/2005 12:00:36 PM PST by dogcaller
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To: dangus

I'm not interested in sissy cowboys.


102 posted on 12/17/2005 12:00:46 PM PST by Carolinamom (Winter is in my head , but eternal spring is in my heart. ---Victor Hugo)
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To: durasell

I don't really know, but they are over paid, and under performing.


103 posted on 12/17/2005 12:01:13 PM PST by 359Henrie
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To: Tench_Coxe
Reference to a South Park episode referring to indy movies. One of the characters ( Cartman )states: "No dude, independent films are those black and white hippie movies. They're always about gay cowboys eating pudding."

You cannot make fun of these people. Any reducito ab absurdum becomes a plan of action. Consider that in the current King Kong, Kong is made into a sympathetic character.

104 posted on 12/17/2005 12:03:32 PM PST by jmcenanly
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To: dangus

Narnia was great.


105 posted on 12/17/2005 12:04:12 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: bnelson44
They are shepards.

Sheepherder is the term used in Idaho sheep country where I grew up.

106 posted on 12/17/2005 12:04:41 PM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: 359Henrie

Nobody knows. That's the problem.

Look, I have several gay friends. All of them plan to see Brokeback Mountain, but aren't all that anxious about it. Do you know the most popular movies I've seen on DVD in their homes? Chicago and the Austin Powers movies.


107 posted on 12/17/2005 12:05:57 PM PST by durasell
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To: Siegfried The Red

I am turned off of the movie because of the game.

One way Jackson tried to get young guys interested in the movie was the game.

But, the game sucks.

It is scripted to the hilt. I HATE games like that. I want to be able to do whatever I want almost in a game, not be forced to take one or two choices.

That turned me off of the film. I am sure a lot of other young people are feeling the same.


108 posted on 12/17/2005 12:06:20 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: durasell

Tell them to save their money. It will be on disc in feb.


109 posted on 12/17/2005 12:07:53 PM PST by 359Henrie
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To: Siegfried The Red

The lion obviously represents Christ. Heck, even the altar breaks in two and he comes out shining in light for crying out loud.

The lion is Christ.

I loved Narnia, and I never read the book.

About the only other movie coming out I might see is Fun with Dick and Jane since it has Jim Carrey.


110 posted on 12/17/2005 12:08:27 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: jmcenanly
Kong was a sympathetic character in the original, also. It was beauty and the beast.
111 posted on 12/17/2005 12:10:26 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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To: Siegfried The Red
I guess what I would say is that it is not an allegory for Christianity and Christ. It actually was a story ABOUT Christianity and Christ. But I guess it depends on how you define allegory.

I have to agree and disagree with you. Allegory has a definite meaning. It doesn't depend upon individual whim or taste. Allegory is a literary device in which characters and events stand for abstract ideas, principles or forces, so that the literal sense suggests a deeper, symbolic sense.

Individual interpretation of a piece of writing is, however, a personal judgment. Is the lion symbolic? Yes, a symbol of Christ. Is the lion symbolic of an abstract principle like justice? It could be interpreted that way. But from the letter you quoted, Lewis wasn't trying to create a work to convey abstract concepts. The lion is Christ. That would be metaphor, not allegory. If the story is interpreted as the triumph of good over evil, that is allegory.

112 posted on 12/17/2005 12:11:24 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: 359Henrie

...they'll keep it in theaters through the academy awards nominations, etc. then release it in the summer.


113 posted on 12/17/2005 12:11:29 PM PST by durasell
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To: 359Henrie

...they'll keep it in theaters through the academy awards nominations, etc. then release it in the summer.


114 posted on 12/17/2005 12:11:34 PM PST by durasell
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To: dangus

..maybe it would have done better if they had made a 2 hr. version of the Brokeback Kong parody...


115 posted on 12/17/2005 12:11:56 PM PST by WalterSkinner
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To: dangus

Looks like it won't be showing where I live. A pity, I would have loved to read a review of it in the local rag. I can just see them sweating over it -- how do we push the homosexual agenda without disgusting our readership?


116 posted on 12/17/2005 12:12:22 PM PST by Alain Chartier
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To: Right Wing Professor
I thought it was called 'Bareback Mountain'?

No, NO, it's called "Barebutt Mountain".

117 posted on 12/17/2005 12:13:46 PM PST by Licensed-To-Carry (Praise be to the LORD, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle.)
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To: popdonnelly
You've been reading too much propaganda.

That leaves out somewhere around 90% 97 of the population.

There. that fixed it.

118 posted on 12/17/2005 12:14:38 PM PST by PAR35
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To: manwiththehands

"FudgePack Mountain . . . "

That's BAD! It's SO bad, in fact, that I'm falling off my chair laughing! (I LOVE bad stuff like that.)


119 posted on 12/17/2005 12:14:43 PM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: texson66
"Line in movie..."There'll never be another ewe!"

I thought the best line was when one fag asked the other, "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?"

120 posted on 12/17/2005 12:14:58 PM PST by albee ("Those that bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boot that kicks them!" - Eric Hoffer)
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To: dangus

Another blow for Blue-State America.


121 posted on 12/17/2005 12:17:04 PM PST by desherwood7
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To: stripes1776

We're in a agreement then. I understand the difference between allegory and metaphor, but some people understand those terms are being interchangeable, even though they aren't. You are 100% correct.


122 posted on 12/17/2005 12:18:35 PM PST by Siegfried The Red (Subgeniuses are the last TRUE Americans!)
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To: dangus

I knew this was going to happen, but it makes me feel really good to see it in print.


123 posted on 12/17/2005 12:19:43 PM PST by I still care (You don't demonstrate tolerance for minorities by apologising for your own heritage,- John Howard)
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To: bnelson44
"They aren't cowboys eithers. They herd sheep. They are shepards."

Actually, they are two actors who have probably ruined their careers.

124 posted on 12/17/2005 12:19:45 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Heath Ledger already has another movie -- Casanova -- coming out.


125 posted on 12/17/2005 12:22:58 PM PST by durasell
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To: dangus

bump


126 posted on 12/17/2005 12:24:51 PM PST by VOA
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To: zbigreddogz
The opposition to this film on FR really surprises me. I thought we took a 'live and let live' position. Who cares if it's about gay cowboys?

The elitists have embraced this movie as a kind of Passion of the Christ of their own, and it's being (so to speak) forced down our throats in a number of ways; in spite of being (from most accounts) an overlong, boring, unpleasant film, it's going to win all the awards just to show the "fundies" who's in charge of the culture.

That's why it's not going to be popular here.

127 posted on 12/17/2005 12:24:57 PM PST by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: durasell

He better hope it comes out soon and that he looks very very believable in it.


128 posted on 12/17/2005 12:25:55 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: dangus

I want to see Narnia but I was waiting until after the Christmas rush to go. Maybe I'll go sometime this week if it's not that crowded.


129 posted on 12/17/2005 12:26:12 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: Pete'sWife

130 posted on 12/17/2005 12:29:53 PM PST by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: FastCoyote

-Snip- Personally, I think millions of men are just itching to see Bareback Mountain -snip-

Personally, I think the ones who want to see this movie are just dripping... and burning too. They really should see a doctor, and a counselor, and a priest, or a rabbi, etc...


131 posted on 12/17/2005 12:30:35 PM PST by 43north (Liberals are obsessed by the vulgarity of their lives & the obscenity of their behavior.)
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To: Siegfried The Red

"I suggest another crappy remake of a TV show that no one watched."

I'm telling you, the last truly original movie that was made was "The Sixth Sense", I loved that movie. Completely clean, good story, a wee bit scary, but I stood it so most wouldn't find it scary at all. No bad language, romance but clean, good story, good acting. An excellent flick, like the old days.


132 posted on 12/17/2005 12:35:37 PM PST by jocon307
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To: SamAdams76

There certainly aren't many good movies.

I think maybe the best American movie I've seen in the past few years is "The Incredibles."

I also recommend just about any anime film directed by Hayao Miyazaki, which are fun for the whole family. Spirited Away, Kiki's Delivery Service, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Princess Mononoke, Castle in the Sky, My Neighbor Totoro, The Cat Returns, and especially Porco Rosso, which reminds me of Casablanca (except that the Bogart role is played by a World War I biplane pilot who has been turned into a pig because he flew too high). It even has a woman singing chansons in an Aegean nightclub.

Miyazaki has what some might consider too strong a concern for "the environment," but he's much too good for it to bother me, and I don't think the left should have a monopoly on nature. The films are made by a company which seems to be half Japanese and half Italian, although Disney has picked up and distributed the last few of them.


134 posted on 12/17/2005 12:39:45 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Licensed-To-Carry

no....Buttpoke mountain....nooo....Humpback mountain....I fergit....Fudgepack mountain...nope...Brokebutt mountain...dang it...


135 posted on 12/17/2005 12:39:53 PM PST by fahraint (git thar fuhstest with the mostest)
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To: Siegfried The Red

"Did they really think a movie that appeals to such a small proportion of the population would do well?"

That's their whole problem, in a nutshell. Liberals are completely koolaid convinced that they are the majority and we are the minority.

The only reason Bush won FL in 2000 was he disenfranchised voters; the only reason he won OH in 2004 was Diebold stole the election.

The are convinced that most of America is more "tolerant" and liberal, and it is the evil uberconservative capitalists corporations that keep this from coming out. It's a giant conspiracy, that VRW one.

Most of America has gay tendencies and will view this as a tender love story. Listen to anyone from DU and they are firmly convinced of this garbage.


136 posted on 12/17/2005 12:40:07 PM PST by I still care (You don't demonstrate tolerance for minorities by apologising for your own heritage,- John Howard)
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To: bnelson44
They aren't cowboys either. They herd sheep. They are shepherds.

That might explain the famous Sheep-Cattle Wars. The Cattlemen didn't want the shepherds fowling their water holes, and spreading their scabies (no joke, I think that's pretty much what the shooting was about).

One problem with the movie may be that they weren't entirely honest about what sort of a relationship this could have been forty years ago. If that sort of thing happened it all it would have been more casual or more pathological. But they had to make the relationship look at once "normal" and monumental. Romanticizing it introduces a false note. Another problem is that once you get the "gay cowboy" concept something of significance has to happen in the film. Apparently, not much does.

137 posted on 12/17/2005 12:40:56 PM PST by x
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To: af_vet_rr
Remember the ones giving these high frigging awards are pretty much the same egotistical scumbags that made the movie.
138 posted on 12/17/2005 12:41:18 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: toddlintown

When it's your turn in the barrel.


139 posted on 12/17/2005 12:42:32 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Siegfried The Red
And I'm going to see Lion, Witch and Wardrobe tomorrow. What a great story!

I took the whole family to see it yesterday. It's wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. I enjoyed it as much as LOTR. Just be sure to go in as a little kid, ready to be enchanted. The lady who plays the White Witch is marvelous, as are all four of the children.

140 posted on 12/17/2005 12:43:11 PM PST by Timmy
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To: dangus
According to RottenTomatoes.com which captures all the critics reviews, Fudgepack Mountain got a thumbs up from 87% of the 99 North American film reviewers whose opinions matter most.
Of course, giving a thumbs up to such a film is a virtual requirement to maintain ones standing as being on the cutting edge of liberal elitist group think. I find it amazing how these self described intellectual "free spirits" all think alike when it comes to issues such as homosexuality, abortion and pornography. They are tiresomely predictable in their views on certain social issues.
While they will rave on about and recommend this film, they won't dare give it an Oscar.
First of all, it won't have the box office numbers to warrant any artistic achievement recognition and secondly, to stink up the Oscars with this blatant propaganda piece will only sink Hollywood deeper into the recession it's already undergoing and force the moguls to face up to the unpleasant fact that it just isn't the price of popcorn that's keeping the public away from the theaters in increasing numbers.
141 posted on 12/17/2005 12:43:41 PM PST by finnigan2
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To: bnelson44

They herd sheep and they are gay! Poor sheep, I bet they all run for their lives when they see a shepard approaching!


142 posted on 12/17/2005 12:46:54 PM PST by calex59 (Seeing the light shouldn't make you blind...)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

It's an impossible story to tell accurately in the movies. They're hyping it to be like Shakespeare in Love.


143 posted on 12/17/2005 12:48:22 PM PST by durasell
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To: finnigan2

Yeah, and most film reviewers didn't like Star Wars much either when it first came out.

Whatever ...

It's funny to read reviews on when SW first came out and then read a review by the same reviewer 20 years later on how incredible the flim was.

Speaking of film reviewers:

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1077

(warning: bad language in video, but still damn funny.)


144 posted on 12/17/2005 12:51:08 PM PST by Siegfried The Red (Subgeniuses are the last TRUE Americans!)
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To: Cicero
I think maybe the best American movie I've seen in the past few years is "The Incredibles."

I have to agree with you on this one to a point, I loved the Incredibles. I also enjoyed the Harry Potter movies, I am not a Christian and so the witchcraft thing doesn't bother me, plus I see Harry Potter as fantasy with no relation to reality at all, just fun to watch. I do however have some complaints on how they stray from the books but this is true of most movies made from book stories.

145 posted on 12/17/2005 12:52:43 PM PST by calex59 (Seeing the light shouldn't make you blind...)
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To: durasell
Hollwyood isn't in decline. It's just that domestic box office doesn't mean as much as it used to...
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You mean that there is a market for gay cowboy movies overseas? Or gay sheepherders?
146 posted on 12/17/2005 12:55:36 PM PST by Cheburashka
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To: calex59
You know, I just looked over at Box Office Mojo; after 7 days in release, Narnia has taken in $81M and BB Mountain has taken in $965K.

Hello, Hollywood...anyone there with a calculator...?

147 posted on 12/17/2005 12:59:18 PM PST by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: CommandoFrank
Rumor has it that a joint sequel is coming forth that combines Brokeback Mountain and King Kong. It will be named "King Dong". My bad...

Oh, no, is some poor blonde headed guy going to be kidnapped by Kong? Imagine the terror when Kong wants to have sex with him!

148 posted on 12/17/2005 12:59:25 PM PST by calex59 (Seeing the light shouldn't make you blind...)
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To: Cheburashka
FudgePack Mountain

That is the line that deserves an OSCAR.

149 posted on 12/17/2005 12:59:45 PM PST by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: dangus

Open Range 2 would blow them all out of the water.
Robert Duvall is the best living American actor.


150 posted on 12/17/2005 1:00:09 PM PST by Liberty Valance ("Can't hide Freedom's song." ~ Starwise)
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