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Tookie Williams - He Showed Remorse (Barf Alert!)
Minneapolis Star/Tribune (aka The Red Star) ^ | 12/17/05

Posted on 12/17/2005 11:49:20 AM PST by MplsSteve

Stanley Tookie Williams did take responsibility for his actions and showed remorse for the harm he had caused, contrary to what Syl Jones (Opinion Exchange, Dec. 13) and a recent letter writer say.

I see remorse and the taking of responsibility for his actions in the tremendous work he did reaching out to bring peace to the gangs, writing children's books, and his mentoring of his former neighborhood's youth who were heading down the path he had gone.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: stanleywilliams
Here is your typical bleeding heart/separated from reality letter in the Op/Ed page of the Red Star.

This type of letter is the rule rather than the exception in this newspaper.

I'm at a loss for words. Maybe you're not. Opinions anyone?

1 posted on 12/17/2005 11:49:20 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

He was only sorry he got caught, and I'm really glad he's dead.


2 posted on 12/17/2005 11:53:23 AM PST by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Merry Christmas!)
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To: MplsSteve


Twas the night before Christmas and all through San Quentin,
the crips were protesting, and liberals were ventin'.

The cyanide hung by the chamber with care, in hopes that the reaper
soon would be there.

The inmates were nestled all snug in their bed ;
except for Old Tookie, who soon would be dead.

And me with my beer mug, dressed warm in my flannell, had curled up
to watch it, on the Fox News Channel.

I set up my TIVO to record the news station, and thoroughly loved
the momentous occasion.

It seemed lady justice had gotten her way, and that there would be
one less savage today.

When outside the jail there arose such a clatter, the cameras had
turned to see what was the matter.

When what to my civilized eyes did appear, but a lineup of actors,
all liberal, half queer.

The misguided freaks drew some curious looks, as they proclaimed his
innocence; clutching his books.
The tears then flew out from Sarandon's eyes, as she nominated him
again for the Nobel Peace Prize.

The actors were tethered to an ACLU sleigh, all towing the line of
the urban decay.

On Asner, on Penn, on liberal cop-haters,
On Sharpton, on Jesse and other race-baiters.

Then at 12:01 all curled up like a beetle, Tookie cried like a bitch
as they gave him the needle.

When up from the actors there arose such a cry, they had failed in
their mission, and Tookie DID DIE !!

I heard Bill O'Reilly say, as I turned out my light, Merry Christmas
to all ... there was justice tonight !!


3 posted on 12/17/2005 11:53:58 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: MplsSteve

Yes, he was very sorry he got caught.


4 posted on 12/17/2005 11:54:28 AM PST by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: MplsSteve
Has his conversion to moose ever been confirmed?
5 posted on 12/17/2005 11:54:42 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: MplsSteve
Gruesome Crime Photos - Lest we forget
6 posted on 12/17/2005 11:54:43 AM PST by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between the terrorists and the democrats.)
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To: MplsSteve
True, he did not admit to the crimes he was convicted of. But that's not a lack of remorse. That's being honest about a corrupt justice system that could and would convict a gang leader of a crime he didn't commit just to get him behind bars.

Tookie is a saint. Its Authority that is evil.

Yeesh. how do these people function in life?

7 posted on 12/17/2005 11:56:07 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: MplsSteve

In amazes me how people can sympathize with a killer and show little or no sympathy for the victims. Where are their op/ed pieces?


8 posted on 12/17/2005 11:56:12 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: chae

He never even admitted to doing to the murders, and was found guilty several times. How can be remorseful for crimes you don't even admit to doing?


9 posted on 12/17/2005 11:56:13 AM PST by Threepwood
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To: MplsSteve

remorse or not .........he was convicted and sentenced by a jury .........after 25yrs of denied appeals he was executed .........sounds like (much delayed) justice to me


10 posted on 12/17/2005 11:58:36 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Threepwood

In order to be sorry and hope someone forgives you you have to admit and understand that what you did was wrong, apologize sincerely, promise never to do it again, then don't do it again and make amends the best you can.

I don't think the requirements were met here.

Therefore, although this was not a crime directly against me and it is not my place to forgive, I don't see how you can be forgiven without truly being sorry for what you did.


11 posted on 12/17/2005 12:00:39 PM PST by Siegfried The Red (Subgeniuses are the last TRUE Americans!)
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To: MplsSteve

"Throw the switch" one more time to make sure Tookie doesn't have a lub...dub...lub...dub...

I am thinking about the victims and their families.

Yep, I am at a loss for words.


12 posted on 12/17/2005 12:02:53 PM PST by Kenservatized
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To: MplsSteve
Well.....

The wheel is still squeaking, but the hamster is dead.
13 posted on 12/17/2005 12:13:43 PM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: MplsSteve
It was reported on one show (the Nancy Grace Show?) that Tookie never wrote those books - that it was all the work of a ghost writer.
14 posted on 12/17/2005 12:17:25 PM PST by Dante3
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To: MplsSteve

"Stanley Williams, by the end of his too short life a good, giving man, was killed by the state of California. It is a tragedy, and I cried for him."

It's wacko nutburgers like this that just make me want to Deanscream sometimes.


15 posted on 12/17/2005 12:19:31 PM PST by DemforBush
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To: MplsSteve

The title is past tense. Good enough for me.


16 posted on 12/17/2005 12:20:01 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: MplsSteve

He's dead Jim


17 posted on 12/17/2005 12:20:52 PM PST by Porterville (Keep your communism off my paycheck)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

This Sick woman has her mind made up that Tookie was not guilty of the Disgusting Murders He commited.
She make the insane statement that he was Good.

Our Nation is sliding down into the sewer of amorality.


18 posted on 12/17/2005 12:21:01 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Dante3

And they sold all of what? 400 copies worldwide?

What a great atonement for the plague of gangstas tookie left us.


19 posted on 12/17/2005 12:21:37 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: MplsSteve
Stanley Tookie Williams did take responsibility for his actions and showed remorse for the harm he had caused, contrary to what Syl Jones and a recent letter writer say.

When your editorial page is to the left of Syl Jones that's truly amazing.

Anyone still buying the Mpls "Red Star" please cancel your subscription.

20 posted on 12/17/2005 12:26:23 PM PST by RJL
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To: CAWats

If more "CIVILIZED" people had the courage, yes courage is required in order to view the indescribeable horror those photos "PROVE" what kind of hideous beast from hell Tookie was. We would be stampeding through the current Lets Make A Deal type court system across America to do away with the insane liberal coddling gym spa scene that exists as prisons today.

* VICTIMS RIGHTS NOW * Not yesterday, not tomorrow, NOW !



21 posted on 12/17/2005 12:34:44 PM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: MplsSteve

Just don't allow people like this letter writer to contaminate your mind.


22 posted on 12/17/2005 12:37:17 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: RJL
Murder victims deaths will not be in vain Victims Rights Now
23 posted on 12/17/2005 12:38:28 PM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: MplsSteve

Tookie is doing well after his death although suffering from the heat.


24 posted on 12/17/2005 12:40:23 PM PST by hgro (A)
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To: MplsSteve

A little late with the remorse there, Tookie-wookie.


25 posted on 12/17/2005 12:41:58 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: MplsSteve

I hear the Strib investigated its own faked circulation numbers and pronounced themselves innocent of any wrongdoing. That's nice...


26 posted on 12/17/2005 12:43:35 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

NICE


27 posted on 12/17/2005 12:47:01 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: MplsSteve

Tookie Williams - He Showed Remorse
I was listening to someone on the radio, can't remember who, maybe Glen Beck--but anyway there was a guy who witnessed the whole lethal injection process and said that he showed "no remorse". And plus some of the guards were getting threats from current (I think) and former Crypts members. So stupid. Good riddence murderer!


28 posted on 12/17/2005 12:50:58 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: MplsSteve
This is the guy who thinks Tookie "showed remorse".


Paul Rozycki with newborn son River

SJA (St. Joan of Arc) Launches Cable TV Project

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Rozycki found himself listening to Christian radio while delivering pizza and it was then that he became aware of how right-wing media is shaping our culture.

What pushed Rozycki into action was something the late Senator Wellstone said to Bill Bradley when Al Gore was smearing him during their presidential campaign. Bradley didn't want to do anything about it. Wellstone told him, "You have to respond, if you don't respond people will believe it."

Rozycki felt that St. Joan's needs to respond to the fall/redemption theology that is all over the media. All we're hearing is "God made us flawed and he's ticked off." That faction believes that the purpose of religion is so that we learn to believe in Jesus - and only Jesus- so that we are saved (i.e. go to heaven.)

According to Rozycky, "There is no media that affirms the purpose of religion as encouraging us to a higher spirituality through community, through a deeper joy in all of creation, through the healing power of love, through a comprehension of the divine in and about us all."

Rozycki believes that he could broadcast a life-affirming message from the Bible that can stir us to action. God is not an angry and vengeful God that some fundamentalists would have us believe. St. Joan's message is accepting and non-judgmental, like Christ's message. We need to send a truly Christian perspective where people are not excluded.

Actually, his idea started as a radio show, but Rozycki found that the possibilities were limited. KFAI is the only station to allow public programming, and they are not in short supply of programs. The proposal and approval process was going slowly. Then one Sunday Rozycki heard a homilist suggest that, based on the success of the SJA website, St. Joan’s ought to consider a cable TV program. (Who says God doesn't speak to us in concrete terms?)

After a small amount of research, he found that cable TV is more accessible, and St. Joan's would have more control over content. Initially, it seemed like just matter of supplying tapes, and the local access channel would broadcast them. Paul also found out that the once the show is produced, other cable stations would be more willing to air it. He jumped on it, putting the invitation to meet in the bulletin.

The response was great. Of the dozen or so people who showed up, most were connected to the video/TV industry in some way. Producers, writers, actors, musicians and videographers have brainstormed at two meetings so far, and confirmed that Rozycki's idea for a TV show was a good one. Is anyone surprised that our congregation is filled with so many gifted people from all industries and walks of life? People came to the meeting out of a sense of passion, out of a sense of, "My God, something needs to be said here. We're being drowned out by right wing think tanks and fundamentalists. We need to put our understanding of truth out there, a theology that represents St. Joan's, our approach to church, Christianity and community."

http://tinyurl.com/7o8qs

29 posted on 12/17/2005 12:52:26 PM PST by kcvl
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To: MplsSteve
I almost posted a response here asking contributors to read some of the other 'bleeding heart' letters on the site.

However, I am so worn out from 'Tookie-mania' that all I can ask is...can we get on with our lives? Please???
30 posted on 12/17/2005 12:58:04 PM PST by bcsco
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To: MplsSteve

I see remorse and the taking of responsibility for his actions in the tremendous work he did reaching out to bring peace to the gangs, writing children's books, and his mentoring of his former neighborhood's youth who were heading down the path he had gone.


----I , too am full of remorse for even reading the article.


31 posted on 12/17/2005 1:05:48 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: MplsSteve
excerpt:True, he did not admit to the crimes he was convicted of. But that's not a lack of remorse. That's being honest about a corrupt justice system that could and would convict a gang leader of a crime he didn't commit just to get him behind bars.

Not to admit your crime is not lack of remorse?

What planet are you from PAUL ROZYCKI?

32 posted on 12/17/2005 1:14:04 PM PST by bulldozer
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To: MplsSteve
Dear Paul in Minnesota:

That wasn't remorse you saw...it was Tookie passing gas.

33 posted on 12/17/2005 1:27:05 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Excellent!


34 posted on 12/17/2005 1:29:19 PM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: MplsSteve

This story is a crock. Tookie Williams was all about Tookie Williams. The first step to remorse I would think would be atleast an apology to the family you victimized.


35 posted on 12/17/2005 1:29:24 PM PST by freekitty
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To: MplsSteve

Too bad he didn't do a better job "mentoring" his sons who are doing time for murder and rape. As far as his work with gangs, have they quit killing people and dealing drugs, I don't think so.


36 posted on 12/17/2005 1:31:58 PM PST by stop_fascism
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To: CommieCutter
I also heard a report from someone who witnessed it that Tookie showed no remorse, but instead appeared to be angry.
37 posted on 12/17/2005 1:32:48 PM PST by Dante3
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To: bulldozer

Trust me. If PAUL (Ro-Sicky)ROZYCKIs precious baby girl were slaughtered by Tookie and all the bleeting Pro-criminal celebrity sheep had to stare at the crime scene/autopsy photos of Tookies VICTIMS they would be singing a different tune.

When someone tells you who they are BELIEVE THEM!
These pro-murder fiends are telling the public who they are, over and over, again and again.


38 posted on 12/17/2005 1:33:03 PM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: MplsSteve
Amazing display of self-righteousness. The letter-writer even acknowledged that Williams never admitted to the crimes. How can you show remorse over an act you deny you ever committed? The depths to which liberals will sink in order to feel noble (about themselves--and to hell with the real world) includes transforming a murderous perpetrator into an innocent victim. Tears for a multiple murderer, not the slightest thought for the victims or their families. Free Mumia.
39 posted on 12/17/2005 1:42:34 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: mylife

The Democrats take care of 'em;)


40 posted on 12/17/2005 1:43:40 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: MplsSteve

I wonder if Paul Rozycki, resident bleeding heart of Minneapolis, shed any tears for Tookie's four victims? I doubt he did. Paul's letter is just another case of a liberal redefining a word--in this case, "remorse"--in a pathetic attempt to win an argument.


41 posted on 12/17/2005 1:48:42 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that the vast majority of Democrats are patriots?)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
That was awesome
42 posted on 12/17/2005 1:50:45 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: MplsSteve
We(I) like to think when we confront the Ultimate Inquisitor that we have our affairs in order. I personally take solace in such stories as the "prodigal son" and "Let the one without sin cast the first stone." I take such solace because I think I am the prodigal son etc, etc. That will all come later.

For today all we(I) can do is take personal responsibility and atone as well as we(I) can for what we(I) do to others. To the best of my knowledge, Tookie never took responsibility for his murders. He did, however, atone early last Tuesday.

43 posted on 12/17/2005 2:23:19 PM PST by stevem
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To: stevem

atonement - phrasal verb FORMAL

to do something that shows that you are sorry for something bad that you did:

- The country's leader has expressed a wish to atone for his actions in the past.

atonement

noun {U} FORMAL

- He said that young hooligans should do community service as atonement for their crimes.

Mr. Williams didn't atone for his crime - he received the just punishment for it. Atonement would be making amends - if you vandalized someone's house, you put a new paint job on it. If you accidentally hurt someone, you pay for the medical bills and help them get groceries until they're well.

He certainly may have turned his life around at some point, and I hope he did. I'm reasonably prepared to meet Ted Bundy in heaven, based on Jim Dobson's interview and opinion of Bundy's authentic repentance and conversion. I may run into this guy as well. But the change in his life, if it occurred, does not change what he did, nor the punishment he deserved.


44 posted on 12/17/2005 5:41:13 PM PST by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: mylife

"Yeesh. how do these people function in life?"

Answer: They don't.


45 posted on 12/20/2005 11:45:34 AM PST by wmileo
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To: MplsSteve

And because he was the anti-gun crowd's worst nightmare. They advocate doing what you're told by criminals so you won't get hurt.

This guy shot his victims just for kicks. That's why the left loves him.


46 posted on 12/20/2005 11:47:25 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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