Ahmadinejad and Islamic Judeophobia

Chronicles Magazine ^ | December 16, 2005 | Srdja Trifkovic

[fallujah-nuker]

The last 3 paragraphs may need a barf alert, the article almost reads like the author stepped out to grab a bite and the janitor finished typing it. Anyway they are conjecture rather than history.

[fallujah-nuker]

May be of interest?

[Stepan12]

Maybe the Chronicles editors, instead of the author, inserted the last paragraphs.

[familyop]

"The last 3 paragraphs may need a barf alert,..."

The whole thing needed a barf alert.

First, Trifkovic embraced the politically correct term, "Judeophobia," to describe Islamists' attitude against Jews. The term implies fear, while most Islamists--being physically far from Jews--really hate them more than anything else. Then, with his dishonesty about antisemitism, he oozed into the Medieval Romanist (and later, Nazi and Islamist) lie that Arabs were also descended from Shem in the currently worn-out neo-Nazi/western European preference for reliance on language similarities, in that one debate, for definitions.

Then, in his seven paragraph, Trifkovic dishonestly stated that Arab pogroms (massacres) against Jews was "a precursor of all other 'final solutions.'" He knows good and well that the "Holy Roman Empire" was the precursor long before the illegitimate birth of Islam.

Trifkovic's comment, "The contemporary heirs to the Nazi view of Judentum are not skinheads and Aryan Nation fans," is an hysterically neo-Nazi comment. American and European neo-Nazis are cheering for (as Trifkovic is), and in some instances give other aid to the radical Islamists in the War on Terror. That's common knowledge now, and neo-Nazis won't get off the hook so easily.

Then, toward the end of his diatribe, Trifkovic finally got semi-clear in his intent, writing, "We should be no less aware, however, that a common problem of global Jihad is sometimes used by Israel as a cover for policies that facilitate its growth." Yes, with Trifkovic's kind, the War on Terror is a vast Jewish conspiracy. And he ended-up his antisemitic piece with, "Among reasonable people of good will, the concept of 'land for peace' is still fundamentally valid." Wrong, Trifkovic!

When our justified military movement into Iraq was an issue for the left, including national socialists on the left, Trifkovic and his friends wrote their animosity against our President and advocated Dean for president. People like Trifkovic waffle one way and the other on issues to suit the directions of their various propaganda pieces.

Trifkovic should also read the history of the massacres against his ancestors and their Jewish neighbors. He might find that he has joined the wrong side.

[familyop]

Trifkovic has, in effect, joined the Ustaše Party and the religion that indoctrinated the people of that Party against his own and against the Jews who were also massacred by the Ustaše.

[SJackson]

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[M Kehoe]

Good evening.

Why does this Ahmadinejad guy remind me of 1939 Europe? Could it be the similarity of his words to that time period's tyrant? Could it be Europe's appeasement strategy towards despots that hasn't changed since the beginning of the twentieth century? Could it be the world wide war we fight now against a like ideology?

Strange how history constantly repeats itself, isn't it?

5.56mm

[SJackson]

Meant as a rhetorical question I assume, we both know why he reminds us of the Reich.

It's not clear to me that appeasement, circa 2005, is a solely Euro phenomenon. The ideology is the same, the victims however will not be confined to Jews, gypsies and political malcontents.

[Pyro7480]

OH GIVE ME A BREAK! This is Catholicism's fault somehow?

[familyop]

"OH GIVE ME A BREAK! This is Catholicism's fault somehow?"

No, of course not. Things have changed. What happened way back then and what led up to it was an abberation. I'm saying that Trifkovic is joining that old movement in a sense.

[familyop]

And, BTW, it was a European anomaly in particular.

[familyop]

Here's a little of the background information on that. It's a timeline with links--very easy and interesting read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_anti-Semitism

[Pyro7480]

Yes, but you said "Trifkovic has, in effect, joined the Ustaše Party and the religion that indoctrinated the people of that Party against his own."

The religion that supposedly inspired the Ustase, according to some, was Catholicism. It's way more complex than that. The Croats were Catholic, by and large, and some Catholic laity and clerics participated in the evil of this party (committing mortal sin, and thereby, forfeiting their religion/priesthood).

[fallujah-nuker]

I believe that Trifkovic is Serb, while the Ustaše were Croatian?

[the anti-liberal]

bump 4 l8r

[familyop]

"I believe that Trifkovic is Serb, while the Ustaše were Croatian?"

Yes. The Ustaše attacked Serbs to wipe out Eastern Orthodox practice (heresy in the eyes of the Ustaše) and attacked Jews in the same areas in an attempt to wipe out Judaism there.

[fallujah-nuker]

And I'm guessing the Muslims probably helped out?

[familyop]

You'll find much more information about them behind the following link. Wikipedia is not my favorite information source (often too many omissions, and I tend to look for source documents), but it will do in this case.

Ustaše
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustase

[fallujah-nuker]

"Ustaše held that Bosnian Muslims are Muslim Croats. Unlike Orthodox Serbs, Muslims were not persecuted by them and a few joined in the Nazi and Ustaše forces as part of Waffen-SS divisions SS Handschar in Muslim Bosnia (led by Amin al-Husayni) and SS Kama adviced by Edmund Glaise von Horstenau (the representative of the German military in Croatia) and led by Colonel Ivan Markulj, who was later replaced by Colonel Viktor Pavicic. Lt-Col. Marko Mesic commanded the artillery section. The state even transferred a former museum in Zagreb to be used as a mosque."

Looks like my guess was correct.

[rmlew]

Trifkovic understand Islam, but does not want to fight it. He wishes to appease it.