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San Francisco City offered option to bid for WWII battleship Iowa
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Saturday, December 17, 2005 | Joe Garofoli, Edward Epstein

Posted on 12/17/2005 3:02:51 PM PST by walkerk

Pressure increased on San Francisco officials Friday to decide whether they want the World War II battleship Iowa after two key federal lawmakers agreed to let any California community bid for the vessel.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Rep. Richard Pombo, R-Tracy, who had been offering dueling proposals on the Iowa's future, agreed that the ship should be transferred to California for permanent donation status and that any city in the state could bid for it.

Pombo's proposal would have directed the Navy to give the 63-year-old Iowa, now moored in Suisun Bay, to the Port of Stockton. Feinstein proposed opening it up for bid.

The language will be included in the defense authorization conference report that Congress is expected to pass in the next few days. If it does, Feinstein aide Howard Gantman said, the Navy could decide on the winning bid within a year.

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But San Francisco's Iowa supporters are hoping to reintroduce what they call a "brand new" resolution to the board in mid-January. It would include a proposal to hold an annual "peace conference" on the battleship. Supporters are meeting with supervisors about their new plan.

Friday's agreement between Feinstein and Pombo "absolutely turns up the heat for San Francisco to decide whether it wants this," said Jim Maloney, executive director of the Military Education Initiative. The organization, which seeks veterans' support for gays and lesbians in the military, is working with the Historic Ship Memorial group to bring the Iowa to San Francisco.

It wants to open a museum on the Iowa focusing on the contributions of gays, lesbians, ethnic minorities and women to the military.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; iowa; sanfrancisco; ussiowa
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To: Yossarian
"Keep your radio tuned into AM-640"

Nah...AM-580 KMJ. 50,000 watts coming in from Yuba City to over the Grapevine.

41 posted on 12/17/2005 5:40:33 PM PST by stboz
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To: walkerk

How about bringing the Iowa to the state it was named for. Is it possible to bring a ship of that size up the Mississippi River as far as Davenport, Keokuk or Burlington?


42 posted on 12/17/2005 6:22:21 PM PST by dancusa (Appeasement, high taxes and regulation collects in the diapers of bed wetting liberals.)
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To: btcusn
The New Jersey is in Camden, New Jersey. Right across from Philly, where sh was made. Jack

Thank you for the update. I lost track of The New Jersey. She was in moth balls for years after WWII. I thought she was revived for active duty service a while (15 years) ago.

43 posted on 12/17/2005 6:52:56 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: dancusa
How about bringing the Iowa to the state it was named for. Is it possible to bring a ship of that size up the Mississippi River as far as Davenport, Keokuk or Burlington?

If it were physically feasable, I think it is a terrific idea. It seems fitting to me. If I were and Iowan, I'd be pleased as punch to tour The Iowa.

44 posted on 12/17/2005 7:01:03 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Yossarian
if its guns were still active, it could pound the place in the manner that it deserves!

My first thought, exactly.

One of my favorte recent series of books is John Ringo's Aldenata stories, starting with "A Hymn Before Battle" (avaiable as a free ebook from the Baen Free Library). In the second book, "Gust Front," he has a scene with a reactivated USS Missouri firing a ranging round. The local unit that called in the strike doesn't know who they've called for fire and they're surprised when they are told "danger close." They respond "we're 400 meters away" and the call "danger close" is repeated. Then they see the shell beginning to fall from the sky.

lovely scene. The young lieutenant calling fire was dutifully impressed.

45 posted on 12/17/2005 7:03:32 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: walkerk
It wants to open a museum on the Iowa focusing on the contributions of gays, lesbians, ethnic minorities and women to the military.

What exactly is going to be put in this museum on the Iowa?

46 posted on 12/17/2005 7:04:05 PM PST by bulldozer
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To: walkerk

Let's bring her home to new York, where she was BUILT (at the Brooklyn Navy Yard), and once stationed (Naval Station Staten Island).

She'd make a great addition to the Intrepid museum.


47 posted on 12/17/2005 7:06:24 PM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: alisasny

Alameda would be cool, park it next to the USS Hornet!


48 posted on 12/17/2005 7:10:58 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: EricT.

I'm a born/raised Californian, and I am damn proud of it, but when the logging trails from 100 years ago are now closed to even mountain bikes, it is definitely time to leave.

Hence, Nevada here we come! I won't have to rent, I can open-carry firearms, I can ride my dirtbikes where and when I want...
the list is endless.


49 posted on 12/17/2005 7:22:40 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: dancusa
How about bringing the Iowa to the state it was named for. Is it possible to bring a ship of that size up the Mississippi River as far as Davenport, Keokuk or Burlington?

Don't know what her draft is, but she wouldn't fit through the locks between St. Louis and Iowa anyway.

50 posted on 12/17/2005 9:10:38 PM PST by prairie dog
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To: mad_as_he$$

Iowa veterans seem to like Stockton.

Good choice also and they plan a very nice park area.


51 posted on 12/18/2005 5:27:36 AM PST by alisasny (BYE B YE TOOKIE)
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To: alisasny

I have been to the proposed site and I can confidently say that it is ideal. The site has plenty of room for parking and shoreside displays. Moreover, hotels and motels in the area are reasonably priced, compared to San Francisco.


52 posted on 12/18/2005 7:02:35 AM PST by kilowhskey (Land of the free, because of the brave.)
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To: walkerk
This continues to drag on.

So to speak. I suppose San Francisco plans to paint it pink ... ?

53 posted on 12/18/2005 7:12:05 AM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Jim Robinson

Nice!!!


54 posted on 12/20/2005 7:53:27 AM PST by benjibrowder (Join the dark side. We have cookies!)
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To: walkerk; Mo1; Howlin
The idiot on Hannity & Colmes, Gerardo Sandoval is a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, says the United States SHOULDN'T HAVE A MILITARY, PERIOD!!!
55 posted on 02/14/2006 6:54:20 PM PST by kcvl
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Gerardo Sandoval is a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors

http://www.gerardosandoval.org/images/bio_photo.jpg



Gerardo's parents emigrated to the U.S. from Mexico in 1951. His father was a gardener and his mother was a garment worker and homemaker. Except for his oldest brother who is developmentally disabled, all of Gerardo's siblings graduated from college. Gerardo is the first in his family to receive an advanced degree.

He was in the first Head Start class in 1966 and considers himself a product of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. He is fully bilingual in Spanish and has traveled extensively in Latin America, Asia and Europe. Gerardo is married to the former Ms. Amy Harrington, and they have a daughter, Natalie Irene Sandoval.


Gerardo Sandoval is a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. Elected to office in December 2000 and re-elected in November of 2004, he is currently a Vice Chair of the Land Use Committee. In March, 2000 he was elected to the San Francisco Democratic Central Committee. He is a practicing attorney.

EDUCATION
Gerardo attended St. Ignatius' brother school, Loyola High School, before graduating from U.C. Berkeley in 1987. In 1989 he received his Masters Degree in City and Regional Planning from U.C. Berkeley, with a specialization in real estate and housing development. He received his law degree from Columbia University in 1995.

WORK EXPERIENCE
Gerardo served as a Deputy Public Defender in the San Francisco Public Defender's Office for four years, representing clients in all types of felony cases. He also completed a three year term on San Francisco's Public Transportation Commission, an agency with over $350 million in expenditures and 3500 employees.

Gerardo was a special assistant for finance to Mayor Art Agnos, managing the budgets of fourteen City departments such as the Port, the Fire Department and the Redevelopment Agency. He also worked on real estate projects such as the Yerba Buena Center. He was formerly an attorney at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher and Flom, specializing in financial transactions. He also worked in Oakland's Office of Economic Development as an economic development specialist.


56 posted on 02/14/2006 6:56:22 PM PST by kcvl
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To: frankjr

.."It would include a proposal to hold an annual "peace conference" on the battleship." <<
Complete with a gay bar in the galley.


57 posted on 02/14/2006 6:57:22 PM PST by travlnmn41
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Gerardo Sandoval
Board of Supervisors
Phone: 415.554.6975
Fax: 415.554.6979
gerardo.sandoval@sfgov.org


58 posted on 02/14/2006 6:57:25 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I couldn't believe I heard him say we should unilaterally disarm and not have a military. Even Colmes raised his eyebrows at that one...


59 posted on 02/14/2006 7:05:48 PM PST by easonc52
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To: walkerk
Couple of questions here. Who pays for it in the long run? Will this be some sort of historical park that will receive federal funding? When they say 'donate' did the state of California pay, if not fair market value, some amount of money that could be reimbursed or applied to the federal budget alleviating our personal burdens of the federal budget? Was the main concern after retirement of these ships the financial return to the federal government for building these ships or setting up floating museums?

And I ask as someone from a state that has one of these ships floating off our own coast (North Carolina)

60 posted on 02/14/2006 7:07:45 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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